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  • pocketkangaroo
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2005
    • 8452

    #51
    Originally posted by Vendzilla
    Our healthcare is a mess, hilary and bill played with our medical system first and see what it got us?
    They got nothing passed. I'm not sure how that messed up anything. Republicans were the ones that wanted to keep the status quo which has brought us to where we are today.

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    • pocketkangaroo
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2005
      • 8452

      #52
      Originally posted by Vendzilla
      I actually like his stand on several things, here's a list
      http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Fred_Thompson.htm

      I think we'll see a run between him and Hillary
      He sounds a lot like our current President. Throw in the fact he's a lobbyist and basically we'd have another 8 years of Exxon and Halliburton running the show.

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      • DateDoc
        Outside looking in.
        • Feb 2005
        • 14243

        #53
        Originally posted by Vendzilla
        Fred for president;;; http://fred08.com

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        • pussyluver
          Clueless OleMan
          • Mar 2003
          • 11009

          #54
          Seems to me that the only two people with a half a brain posting in this thread is Baddog and Vendzilla. Clearly they have been more engaged in what's going on in this country than the rest that are just belching up the last sound bite they can remember from CNN or wherever.

          Suggest rereading their posts as they make valid points.

          Carry on.

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          • Linkster
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2003
            • 3216

            #55
            The answer is pretty simple to the original problem - we need a draft right now - guarantee that war will be over in hours
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            • pussyluver
              Clueless OleMan
              • Mar 2003
              • 11009

              #56
              Worth reading:

              http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Fred_Thompson.htm
              http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Hillary_Clinton.htm

              This would be the closest race IMO. You can check out the others at that website.

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              • Vendzilla
                Biker Gnome
                • Mar 2004
                • 23200

                #57
                Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                He sounds a lot like our current President. Throw in the fact he's a lobbyist and basically we'd have another 8 years of Exxon and Halliburton running the show.
                The biggest problem I have with bush is that he's mainly funded by the church, Thompson is considered a moderate, last moderate we had was Ronny! Most feel he is a federalist as well, which means more power to the state and less government control
                Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                think about that

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                • Vendzilla
                  Biker Gnome
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 23200

                  #58
                  Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                  They got nothing passed. I'm not sure how that messed up anything. Republicans were the ones that wanted to keep the status quo which has brought us to where we are today.
                  They didn't get anything passed, but during that time, I was paying for medical insurance and that's when it started going up
                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                  think about that

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                  • pussyluver
                    Clueless OleMan
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 11009

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Linkster
                    The answer is pretty simple to the original problem - we need a draft right now - guarantee that war will be over in hours
                    How much thought have you given to that idea? Care to explain your reasoning?

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                    • TheStout
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 2089

                      #60
                      Originally posted by spacedog
                      Hillary = Bad for the country
                      Obama = Bad for the country
                      Bloomberg = Our country will be ruined & completely fucked!


                      All 3 of the above want to enact laws to restrict & strip your constitutional rights.


                      Voting for Bloomberg is pretty much like asking for another Hitler
                      I do not follow US Politics that much but why would each of them be bad?...Not suggesting you are wrong just curious of your opinions on the issue

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                      • pussyluver
                        Clueless OleMan
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 11009

                        #61
                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                        They didn't get anything passed, but during that time, I was paying for medical insurance and that's when it started going up
                        The oversight bureaucracy became larger. Ask your doctor. That governemt oversight costs $$$. Actually a number of programs were approved in the time frame. Would have to do the research to give you an outline even. Start with HIPAA for one though.

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                        • Vendzilla
                          Biker Gnome
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 23200

                          #62
                          Originally posted by pussyluver
                          Seems to me that the only two people with a half a brain posting in this thread is Baddog and Vendzilla. Clearly they have been more engaged in what's going on in this country than the rest that are just belching up the last sound bite they can remember from CNN or wherever.

                          Suggest rereading their posts as they make valid points.

                          Carry on.
                          Baddog and I are close to the same age and remember the fuck ups of past presidents, we've been paying taxes longer than a lot of you have been alive
                          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                          think about that

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                          • Linkster
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 3216

                            #63
                            Originally posted by pussyluver
                            How much thought have you given to that idea? Care to explain your reasoning?
                            Quite a bit actually - instituting a draft would accomplish two things.
                            First it would replenish the military and boost the economy (remember that all those guard and reservists have legal rights saving their jobs at home) - something sorely needed if we believe what the president is proposing in a long term view of operations in the middle east - you can only rotate and extend so much
                            Second it would drive the dissapproval of the war from its current 60 % or so up to around 85 %, causing the "swing" republicans that really want to have a chance to win next season to finally go beyond the breaking point and stop their holding out - while I understand this will happen anyway after the primaries, this would certainly speed things up and save soldiers llives in the long run

                            A third side benefit is that it would give us enough people at home to respond to natural disasters and cope with anything else that might happen as well as allow the pentagon to shed the private contracts it has supplementing the military with those extra 105,000 highly paid private soldiers - saving the taxpayer a huge amount on their defense bill
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                            • kane
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Aug 2001
                              • 20684

                              #64
                              Originally posted by Vendzilla
                              The biggest problem I have with bush is that he's mainly funded by the church, Thompson is considered a moderate, last moderate we had was Ronny! Most feel he is a federalist as well, which means more power to the state and less government control
                              I must had read this wrong. Are you actually trying to say the Reagan was a moderate? Reagan in the poster boy for the conservative movement. What about that nice little war on porn Ronny and his buddy Ed Meese waged? That's not very moderate. Thompson as a moderate? I disagree. Look at his record. He is anti-abortion, pro gun, pro big business, anti-worker, pro-drilling for oil and so on. He may be more moderate than many, but he is not that much of a moderate since he seems to pretty much vote right along the conservative party line. His recruitment into this race was spearheaded by the religious right. Why? They don't like the others for various reasons and they wanted a God based candidate. Thompson has proven himself to someone that will do as you ask as long as you pay him, why would he be any different as president?

                              I'm not saying he is a terrible candidate. There are worse out there, but I think by saying he and Reagan are moderates you are a little off the mark.

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                              • uno
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                                • Dec 2002
                                • 18450

                                #65
                                Originally posted by GigoloMason
                                I think given your stance you might be the one that doesn't understand the original intent of the second amendmant.
                                Something about "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State"
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                                • EonBlue
                                  Apocalypse
                                  • May 2007
                                  • 3043

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                  Look up "free speech zones".
                                  Free speech zones are not new and were not created by Bush. Besides, free speech does not necessarily include disrupting business and inconveniencing others. And if the retarded protestors could protest without vandalism and violence then free speech zones wouldn't be necessary.

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                                  • tony299
                                    lurker
                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 57021

                                    #67
                                    if it wasnt clintons presidency most you would be working at starbucks or the local filling station. You have very short memories during your buddy reagan it cost adam & eve over a million dollars fighting the government. If fred becomes president which I doubt will happen too much shit in his past, his wife wants to make going after porn job one. Hope you got something else to do for a living. Also clinton had nothing to do with your insurance going up. Im 43 so I remember also.

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