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  • Rui
    web
    • Dec 2001
    • 9533

    #1

    "Spammer lands $11 billion fine "

    A SMALL ISP in the town of Clinton, Iowa, has just won one of the largest payouts ever extracted from a spammer.

    The firm, CIS Internet Services, won $11.2 billion from James McCalla, from Florida, who was found to have sent millions of unsolicited e-mails advertising mortgage and debt consolidation services through the ISP's network.

    A lawsuit claimed that McCalla sent more than 280 million illegal spam e-mail messages. Frims advertised in the spam had already been ordered to cough up a billion dollars in damages.

    Prosecutors argued that under state law in effect at the time, CIS was entitled to $10 per illegal e-mail.

    The Iowa court was told the defendants "falsely and illegally" represented that their e-mails originated from the CIS domain The e-mails used the cis.net as a return address to disguise the source of the e-mails to avoid complaints.

    CIS acknowledged that it is unlikely to see any of the judgement money but said that it was time that spammers learnt that their actions would result in an economic death penalty.
    http://www.qctimes.net/articles/2006...138542.txt#top

  • Doctor Dre
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jan 2001
    • 51692

    #2
    Outch ... 280 mills emails ? a spammer can do that in a day...
    Originally posted by rayadp05
    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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    • spacedog
      Yes that IS me. Bitch.
      • Nov 2001
      • 14149

      #3
      Is that why bdjuf hasnt been posting

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      • jacked
        sperm tail
        • May 2004
        • 11019

        #4
        dam thats some fucked up shit $10/per illegal e-mail
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        • rowan
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Mar 2002
          • 17393

          #5
          "CIS acknowledged that it is unlikely to see any of the judgement money..."

          Fuck that. Even if you get $500k it's better than nothing. Don't stop until the spammer is bankrupt.

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          • sumphatpimp
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2002
            • 5235

            #6
            DMS=don't mean shit
            with the money they made, they will move offshore and continue on.

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            • Rui
              web
              • Dec 2001
              • 9533

              #7
              Originally posted by sumphatpimp
              DMS=don't mean shit
              with the money they made, they will move offshore and continue on.
              You really think so?

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              • Pryda
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2005
                • 906

                #8
                I hope the spammer pays till he dies
                Babepedia

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                • pawsregd
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 2290

                  #9
                  Good to hear

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                  • dynastoned
                    mmm yeah!
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 5061

                    #10
                    that spammer will never see the light of day... attached wages for life haha wow shitty..

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                    • sweetcuties
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 5859

                      #11
                      great news... their the biggest pieces of shit

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                      • Tom_PM
                        Porn Meister
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 16443

                        #12
                        Whew! Now thats a deterrant!
                        On the other hand, it's way too high! They want to cap medical jury awards, but a single spammer amounts to billions? I dont think thats as damaging as a botched operation or something that literally damages a person.
                        43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                        • fr0gman
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 2093

                          #13
                          They will not see a dime. The judge that levied that amount should be disbarred. That is a slap in the face of the ant-spam people in that the judge issues some "cartoon amount" that he and everyone around him knows will never be paid.

                          Financial Death Penalty? Think about it... if you worked at a lending institution and some guy showed up for a loan and you saw that he had a judgment for 1/2 of the deficit of the state of California would you take it seriously or would you write it off as some kind of error?

                          An 11 billion dollar judgment is a joke no matter how you look at it.
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                          • FlogTheLog
                            CuriousToyBoys Little Bitch
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 3842

                            #14
                            i have no idea how i will pay the $11 billion , sorry if you got my spam guys

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                            • artman
                              Confirmed User
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 770

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                              Outch ... 280 mills emails ? a spammer can do that in a day...
                              no they cant dumbass, thats over 100000 emails a minute

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                              • Sosa
                                In Tushy Land
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 40149

                                #16
                                jesus. wonder how long it will take for others to do the same thing.

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                                • Young
                                  Bland for life
                                  • Nov 2004
                                  • 10468

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by fr0gman
                                  They will not see a dime. The judge that levied that amount should be disbarred. That is a slap in the face of the ant-spam people in that the judge issues some "cartoon amount" that he and everyone around him knows will never be paid.
                                  .
                                  You're a moron. Judgements like this are common. It will be brought down to a more reasonable amount via appeal.

                                  A balloon judgement like that will prevent the spammer from ever setting up shop again.

                                  Disbarred? Fucking moron.
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                                  • AsianDevil
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Sep 2005
                                    • 289

                                    #18
                                    BLAHAHHAHA, about time some of these spammers get sent a message they don't want to see or hear. =_)

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                                    • pornguy
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 62910

                                      #19
                                      That spammer will move and set up again. the only thing that will stop him, is by putting him in jail.
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                                      • Violetta
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                                        • Jul 2004
                                        • 28735

                                        #20
                                        1 down, 1.000.000 to go!
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                                        • kristin
                                          GOO!
                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 9768

                                          #21
                                          I wish I got paid $10/email ...
                                          Vacares rules.

                                          "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

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                                          • Gnat69
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2004
                                            • 706

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by kristin
                                            I wish I got paid $10/email ...
                                            I was thinking the same thing...lol

                                            sorry about that guys luck...haha
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                                            • SmokeyTheBear
                                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                                              • Jun 2004
                                              • 28609

                                              #23
                                              what a fucking tool that judge is.. meaningless fine...

                                              He can just claim bankrupt and he is free and clear.

                                              They should have set it at some reasonable level that would imply he might actually pay it.. ( and bar him from the net )
                                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                              • SmokeyTheBear
                                                ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                • Jun 2004
                                                • 28609

                                                #24
                                                i still like the idea of a handwritten apology to every person he spammed that would keep him busy
                                                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                • Furious_Male
                                                  Doing the grind since 99
                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                  • 16884

                                                  #25
                                                  Just checked my inbox and junk box no reduction.
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                                                  • Babagirls
                                                    Text Writer
                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                    • 18812

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                    what a fucking tool that judge is.. meaningless fine...
                                                    He can just claim bankrupt and he is free and clear.
                                                    thats what i would do




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                                                    • SmokeyTheBear
                                                      ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                      • 28609

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Young
                                                      A balloon judgement like that will prevent the spammer from ever setting up shop again.
                                                      not really .. the huge fine makes it impossible to pay , thus he will claim bankruptcy , and can start up again not owing anybody a dime.

                                                      so i have to kind of agree with buddy that the judge should be disbarred for not stepping in with a more realistic judgement that would work..
                                                      Last edited by SmokeyTheBear; 01-05-2006, 09:10 AM.
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                                                      • Nysus
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                        • 7817

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by fr0gman
                                                        They will not see a dime. The judge that levied that amount should be disbarred. That is a slap in the face of the ant-spam people in that the judge issues some "cartoon amount" that he and everyone around him knows will never be paid.

                                                        Financial Death Penalty? Think about it... if you worked at a lending institution and some guy showed up for a loan and you saw that he had a judgment for 1/2 of the deficit of the state of California would you take it seriously or would you write it off as some kind of error?

                                                        An 11 billion dollar judgment is a joke no matter how you look at it.
                                                        Unless it's Microsoft or someone big..

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                                                        • dcortez
                                                          DINO CORTEZâ„¢
                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                          • 2145

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                          i still like the idea of a handwritten apology to every person he spammed that would keep him busy


                                                          And it's not even adult-related - need more of these mainstream convictions to offset generalizations about legitimate adult industry.

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                                                          • NoWhErE
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Sep 2005
                                                            • 10583

                                                            #30
                                                            280 mil e-mails doesn't seem like much... I feel I get that many spams per day in my inbox...
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                                                            • sfera
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2005
                                                              • 8597

                                                              #31
                                                              thats hefty lol

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                                                              • kektex
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2005
                                                                • 1813

                                                                #32
                                                                I realize he will never pay that much but it`s soooo good.
                                                                I hope he pays till his last days on earth.
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                                                                • kenny
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                  • 7245

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                  what a fucking tool that judge is.. meaningless fine...

                                                                  He can just claim bankrupt and he is free and clear.

                                                                  They should have set it at some reasonable level that would imply he might actually pay it.. ( and bar him from the net )
                                                                  You can't bankrupt fines, restitution, or taxes
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                                                                  • smack
                                                                    Push Porn Like Weight.
                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                    • 10652

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                    Whew! Now thats a deterrant!

                                                                    do you really think that will stop anyone from spamming?

                                                                    sorry it break it to you but it won't.

                                                                    people till just move off shore and than not worry.

                                                                    it's like the war on drugs, it's not something you can stop.
                                                                    Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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                                                                    • Tom_PM
                                                                      Porn Meister
                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                      • 16443

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I dont think it will stop current spammers from spamming. But I think if someone was going to start, they might not now.

                                                                      But it's way too high. makes no sense realistically.
                                                                      43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                                      • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                        • 28609

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by kenny
                                                                        You can't bankrupt fines, restitution, or taxes
                                                                        really ? hmm i guess you really do learn something new everyday..

                                                                        Im not a legal expert but didn't o.j. simpson declare bancruptcy , and got off on a bunch of fines and such ( perhaps im mistaken and it wasn't fines ? )
                                                                        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                        • Tom_PM
                                                                          Porn Meister
                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                          • 16443

                                                                          #37
                                                                          I think OJ has all his money offshore in various companies. It's not "his" this way, lol.
                                                                          43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                                          • kenny
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                            • 7245

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                            really ? hmm i guess you really do learn something new everyday..

                                                                            Im not a legal expert but didn't o.j. simpson declare bancruptcy , and got off on a bunch of fines and such ( perhaps im mistaken and it wasn't fines ? )

                                                                            "bankruptcy generally will not rid you of debts for child support, taxes, alimony, fines, and many student loans, as well as debts incurred by fraud or malicious injury. Under some circumstances a debtor can be denied discharge of all his debts as opposed to certain specific debts. If this happens the primary reason for filing bankruptcy is defeated"

                                                                            http://www.uls.state.ut.us/uls/flyers/bank1204.htm

                                                                            OJ moved to Florida to take advantage of their homestead protection law.

                                                                            Any other state would take his house and shit
                                                                            Last edited by kenny; 01-05-2006, 09:58 AM.
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                                                                            • chupachups
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                              • 6576

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by artman
                                                                              no they cant dumbass, thats over 100000 emails a minute

                                                                              You dont know much about mailing dude, and yeah, he said "can".

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                                                                              • kenny
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                                • 7245

                                                                                #40
                                                                                The spammer can move offshore and spam until the powers that be freeze his accounts and pull the plugs on his servers
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                                                                                • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                  ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                                  • 28609

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by kenny
                                                                                  OJ moved to Florida to take advantage of their homestead protection law.

                                                                                  Any other state would take his house and shit
                                                                                  yah i seem to remember hearing about this..
                                                                                  hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                  • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                                                    • 28609

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by artman
                                                                                    no they cant dumbass, thats over 100000 emails a minute
                                                                                    thats not hard
                                                                                    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                    • Kimmykim
                                                                                      bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                      • 16015

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      It never fails to amaze me as to how the GFY financial and legal interpretations work.

                                                                                      Wages get garnished for things like child support and income taxes, not generally in civil suits, even with awards. I'm not saying it can't happen, just that it doesn't happen very often.

                                                                                      Judgements and liens don't mean too terribly much too, unless you are trying to either buy something on credit or sell real property, such as real estate. If you own property and there is a lien against you, it must be paid off before the title to the property can be transferred. Cars, boats, that sort of thing don't generally count in a lien situation either. Only real estate and the like. Once again, this is not an absolute rule, it's just how it generally is done.

                                                                                      Next, no spammer that I know would ever bother putting their own name on their shit anyway. That's what their moms, kids, etc are for...

                                                                                      All in all, I'd say the chances of the judgement ever being paid would be zero. Spammer just buys stuff in another country paying cash and lives happily ever after.

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                                                                                      • MrJackMeHoff
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                        • 4569

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        The entire adult industry would fold in half if spam died.. Dont be so quick to try to kill it. It is a nescasary evil.

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                                                                                        • MrJackMeHoff
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                          • 4569

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by kenny
                                                                                          You can't bankrupt fines, restitution, or taxes
                                                                                          Bullshit yes you can.

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                                                                                          • wedouglas
                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                                                            • 5921

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            All the anti-spam people act like they wouldn't jump on the ability to spam.

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                                                                                            • Tom_PM
                                                                                              Porn Meister
                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                              • 16443

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Well our programs dont email, not even to existing members. So it can die.
                                                                                              43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                                                              • GoodGuy
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                                • 881

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                yeah, i hate spam, but i seriously think, this newspaper is doing cheap propaganda, I reported spam a lot of times (even directly to sponsors), and nobody ever took care about it.

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                                                                                                • ilbb
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • May 2005
                                                                                                  • 3025

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Spammers sucks my balls

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                                                                                                  • pornstar2pac
                                                                                                    Omaha Hi/Lo
                                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                                    • 17380

                                                                                                    #50
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                                                                                                    yes! i won!
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