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WARNING to ALL ADULT AFFILIATES please READ my UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE

09-19-2007, 02:43 AM

I had to really put & share my bad experience on being cheated as an affiliate from CAMS. COM a.k.a Lengendary Lars Sub Company ( affiliated with AdultFriendFinder INC ) . I Had always being a adult Webmaster and Seo Expert earning a good income from the adult industry of various companies , but i had been feeling pretty lousy for being CHEATED !! Yes ! CAMS .COM is cheating Hardworking , Loyal & Smart Affiliate like me a couple of times on my commission !! I had been a Affiliate webmaster for CAMS .COM for almost 3 mths and i had opted for the PER PAY OUT Scheme right from the beginning , i thought things were good for me only when one of my childhood friend make a purchase from my CAMS .COM Affiliates link , By Right , i should have received a PER PAY OUT Commission that day however i received none because that whole week while i checked on my stats it was a $0 income !! i did email them but they don;t respond !!! Now this PISSED ME OFF !! so i thought either their web programmers sucks on their monitoring system or they are deliberately trying to CHEAT US OUT !! then after 3 weeks i ask my another friend who is in italy to make a purchase through my CAMS .COM affiliates Link , as he was a Adult cam surfer i came to know of , once again i checked my commission stats and it was AGAIN not REFLECTED on my commission Stats !! Dear Mr. LARS you ought to really give us Affiliate a Sincere Reply on this issue !! Anyway i thought things were been mistaken only for the third time i tested it myself thru my own affiliate Links using my own credit card purchase , and checked that i received No commission AGAIN !! All i have to say is that i am totally disappointed on CAMS .COM unethical Practices !! I had to voice it out over here to the rest of the Aspiring Webmasters to heed my experience as a warning of being Cheated by these Assholes !! Too bad i will not be promoting AdultFriendFinderer and CAMS .COM ANYMORE !! You just LOST a GREAT AFFILIATE !!
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09-19-2007, 02:47 AM

Damn, I appreciate you're upset but use paragraphs. I guarantee that you will receive comments along the lines of "cant read that", "cant be bothered to read that" or "too hard to read".
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09-19-2007, 02:47 AM

Too much bold.

Also, you don't get any money if the people your referred through your link are already members of cams.com, if I remember correctly.

Also, you don't sound like a 'great' affiliate at all.
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09-19-2007, 02:56 AM

You forgot the one back slash at the end of your linking code you gave to your friends and it makes it so it won't track to your affiliate account.

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09-19-2007, 03:02 AM

So... I did read it... and I am not going to defend AFF or cams.com but I read this kind of thing on this board often and I want to address it.

My first thought when reading this is... goddamn noobs kill me. I can tell by your post that you aren't telling everything in the story and you probably were trying to cheat the program by having your friends sign up... your not the first noob to try that shit.

You have been an affiliate for 3 months... oy... that ain't long... and from your statement I think that you weren't making many sales.... Just trying to hustle the program.

Here is the real kicker... hold on to your chair... it might shake you a bit... most programs shave... even honest ones. This might sound crazy... but people try to cheat the programs everyday so they are forced to scrub some sales and they even buy software to do it for them. Crazy isn't it?
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09-19-2007, 03:07 AM

youre from the uk? go take some english classes
who do you expect to read that?
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09-19-2007, 03:10 AM

Originally posted by Lee

Damn, I appreciate you're upset but use paragraphs. I guarantee that you will receive comments along the lines of "cant read that", "cant be bothered to read that" or "too hard to read".

I know I can't. It hurts my eyes at least 2 different ways this early.

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09-19-2007, 03:18 AM

Are you sure your affiliate code was correct?
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09-19-2007, 03:20 AM

Sorry about the paragraph as i was in a hurry while typing this , for your information i was not ccheating on my any programs at all ! come on just how many credit cards can i get just to earn that HUGE amount of commission ?!? that's nuts to work hard but not SMART !! i ask my friend to sign up because he is a kinky ADULT CAM Lover , surely you would recommend him to your Affiliate Links as he asked !! Damn it , the thing i am trying to prove is whether the Company Site CHEATS ON AFFILIATES !! and i had PROVEN that CAMS .COM indeed Shave and Cheats on COMMISSIONS !

Yes to people who can;t understand the important of being in the Adult Webmaster industry that's just too bad i am just being Nice to warn you guys here and i am TRULY indeed PISSED OFF by the CHEATERS !!!

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09-19-2007, 03:22 AM

Geez dude, that large upside-down L-shaped key is called the Enter key, please use it!

Have you checked your linking code? Are ALL the '?''s and '/''s there?

Are you seeing traffic hits on your stats? If not, then you have a linking problem.

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09-19-2007, 03:23 AM

Originally posted by kennyking

Sorry about the paragraph as i was in a hurry while typing this , for your information i was not ccheating on my any programs at all ! come on just how many credit cards can i get just to earn that HUGE amount of commission ?!? that's nuts to work hard but not SMART !! i ask my friend to sign up because he is a kinky ADULT CAM Lover , surely you would recommend him to your Affiliate Links as he asked !! Damn it , the thing i am trying to prove is whether the Company Site CHEATS ON AFFILIATES !! and i had PROVEN that CAMS .COM indeed Shave and Cheats on COMMISSIONS !

Yes to people who can;t understand the important of being in the Adult Webmaster industry that's just too bad i am just being Nice to warn you guys here and i am TRULY indeed PISSED OFF by the CHEATERS !!!

I am a russian thought so Bear with my Language

You're way too emotional. Have you earnt any money with cams.com before?
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09-19-2007, 03:23 AM

Yes my affiliate Links are all well coded with my Affiliate CODE of CAMS .COM !! i have been a internet marketeers for 5 years i am well aware of all the technie Stuffs , as for my friends who signed up through it they are IT savvy too , i will not make any bad remarks if i were not being CHEATED and wasted my time on promoting it !
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09-19-2007, 03:27 AM

Of cos there's traffic coming in from my affiliate stats , everything is well coded i had placed the Coded banners well in all my traffic booming 17 websites that i owe since i touched on internet
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09-19-2007, 03:37 AM

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09-19-2007, 03:46 AM

although cams.com sucks nd lars is a scum bag and we all know all programs shave, id shit can you anyways for 2 reasons.

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and 2 test sales ( if you wouldnt have notified us )

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09-19-2007, 04:04 AM

sounds like you have messed up on the link codes there.
I have done a test signup on cams.com and it worked.

but if this story is really what it says then i wish you all the best in persuing it.

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09-19-2007, 04:05 AM

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09-19-2007, 04:08 AM

this is a drama of the month, and now seriously, that sucks in many ways if it's true.
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09-19-2007, 04:13 AM

Here is the real kicker... hold on to your chair... it might shake you a bit... most programs shave... even honest ones. This might sound crazy... but people try to cheat the programs everyday so they are forced to scrub some sales and they even buy software to do it for them. Crazy isn't it?

And your ok with this? Oh this is from a guy whos been in the business for over 7 years.

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09-19-2007, 04:25 AM

Hold on kennyking,

you've said that you received no email or some statement til now? As far as i know they have a tiny software glitch since 2 days and are already over it to fix it.

My pmo stats are fished up as well. I'm sending them almost 100 signups a day, they get all recorded with the ppc stats section. I bet your expirience have to do with this as well. I got a confirmation from staff that everything will get sorted out once they fixed the glitch.
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09-19-2007, 04:26 AM

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09-19-2007, 04:33 AM

Originally posted by Compdoctor

And your ok with this?

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09-19-2007, 04:37 AM

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Hold on kennyking,

you've said that you received no email or some statement til now? As far as i know they have a tiny software glitch since 2 days and are already over it to fix it.

My pmo stats are fished up as well. I'm sending them almost 100 signups a day, they get all recorded with the ppc stats section. I bet your expirience have to do with this as well. I got a confirmation from staff that everything will get sorted out once they fixed the glitch.

Bet you are a Staff employee of CAMS .COM or AdultFriendFinder Inc. ?? Well it not about 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 days Ago that matters , if you read my Announcement meticulously i have this issue of COMMISSION SHAVED A.K.A SCAM CHEATING since i JOINED them 3 and Half months ago and the incident started from the 2nd month onwards i read all my affiliates Account traffic Technical Stuffs everyday , and i am almost online runnning my business 12 hours aday so i am a full time online marketeers GEEK , as a matter of fact i am well weary of some dishonesty but just hate the feel of being CHEATED for my TIME and HARDWORK ! i will be testing some NEW ADULT Sites This weekend and i will most likely be having a NEW HONEST Website for reviewing all this SCAMMER and SCUMBAGS pretty soon with ratings and a well moderated forum to talk about !
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09-19-2007, 04:45 AM

you make my head hurt

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09-19-2007, 04:50 AM

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09-19-2007, 04:54 AM

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

although cams.com sucks nd lars is a scum bag and we all know all programs shave, id shit can you anyways for 2 reasons.

russian
and 2 test sales ( if you wouldnt have notified us )

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09-19-2007, 05:19 AM

Originally posted by kennyking

Bet you are a Staff employee of CAMS .COM or AdultFriendFinder Inc. ?? Well it not about 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 days Ago that matters , if you read my Announcement meticulously i have this issue of COMMISSION SHAVED A.K.A SCAM CHEATING since i JOINED them 3 and Half months ago and the incident started from the 2nd month onwards i read all my affiliates Account traffic Technical Stuffs everyday , and i am almost online runnning my business 12 hours aday so i am a full time online marketeers GEEK , as a matter of fact i am well weary of some dishonesty but just hate the feel of being CHEATED for my TIME and HARDWORK ! i will be testing some NEW ADULT Sites This weekend and i will most likely be having a NEW HONEST Website for reviewing all this SCAMMER and SCUMBAGS pretty soon with ratings and a well moderated forum to talk about !

Well then... don't bet too high. It'll be a shure loss ;)

Just posted my expirience from the last days because i was thinking it falls into the same scheme. Not want to defend any of the parties here but setting up a swirl like this sounds to me like you bet your whole knowledge on one horse wich is the worst idea one can ever have...

I'm outta here...
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09-19-2007, 05:27 AM

Don;t get me wrong auxburger , i am a person who don;t believe anybody easily , i do hope anybody here who want to sign up any program do a check before jumping into any wagon , some of this Companies can post as a commoner reviewing that their affiliate programs are the best , this form of marketing techniques is way OUTDATED , the best is Let the MASS decides for themselves
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09-19-2007, 05:28 AM

Are you sure your affiliate code was correct?

:: That's actually a notorious program response right there.
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09-19-2007, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by kennyking

some of this Companies can post as a commoner reviewing that their affiliate programs are the best

<ironic_mode_on>u sure about that?<ironic_mode_off>

I know, i'm still here... just tried to correct my s(h)ure typo from above but 3 mins editing time is too less for my slow fingers...

So then, just think of me what you want and believe in whatever you want. I'm completely comfortable with it. But hey... if they would post hidden to defend themselves... don't you think they would use one of their sparenicks with a bit more than 3 postings?
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09-19-2007, 05:39 AM

I hate when people say most programs shave, I do it all myself and have no clue how you would do it and do not care to know. It is just an excuse for being lazy I think. Oh I had a bad week, must have been shaved.

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09-19-2007, 05:42 AM

Damn it , the thing i am trying to prove is whether the Company Site CHEATS ON AFFILIATES
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09-19-2007, 05:42 AM

that's why i promote only awe
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09-19-2007, 05:50 AM

I was wondering where thos extra sales came from.. guess u were using my ref code...

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09-21-2007, 02:07 AM

Originally posted by thonglife

:: That's actually a notorious program response right there.

Ya, and it makes me laugh when they say it. Only a complete moron would mess up their link coded. Even Corky could do it right.

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09-21-2007, 02:09 AM

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that's why i promote only awe

AWE are no angels either. I spent $700 under my own affiliate code with a fresh membership sign up and never saw a dime of it in my webmaster account.

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09-21-2007, 02:29 AM

i sent them a little bit of traffic a couple weeks back and i didn't do very well with them either.

pretty pimp eh?
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09-21-2007, 02:52 AM

can't be bothered to read that
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09-21-2007, 03:04 AM

AFF and Cams are the biggest frauds in the entire adult industry.

I didn't need to send friends sign up to figure out that they were shaving, as it's so OBVIOUS.

Their software is so stupid, it's not even 'smart' shaving, it's massive!

Fucking crooks!

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09-21-2007, 04:22 AM

kennyking - how many sales did you do total in the 3 months? Not to know your business - but in order for others to understand:
1) that you know how to put your link code
2) that it was/wasn't only 3 sales of your friends 'testing' the links
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09-21-2007, 04:35 AM

It's not called shaving, it's called: "Looks like a signup tracking problem, it's just a glitch beyond our influence since the cookie seems to the corrupted for some unknown reason. We are really sorry and will work even harder for our wonderful affiliates to improve our program daily. Please note our special promo and send us more of your great traffic this month."
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09-21-2007, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by kennyking

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That's all I needed to hear. Did you know the devil was born in Russia? I can not believe anything you say.

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09-21-2007, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by Compdoctor

And your ok with this? Oh this is from a guy whos been in the business for over 7 years.

I have never wasted any time promoting other peoples stuff but it should be obvious to anybody who can think that these programs must be shaving to a extent because its so easy to do since it is their programs they have control over!
How much to a extent will obviously be down to the discetion of the people running it.

It's the same as people who run their own biz and get paid in cash for jobs they do it means certain tax advantages for them!
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09-21-2007, 07:34 AM

Originally posted by thonglife

:: That's actually a notorious program response right there.

Actually, you'd be surprised at how often it does happen though. I have affiliates ask me to review pages from time to time after complaining about clicks not being counted and I'll look at their page and there will be a weird linking code error (often times it happens when they use a WSYIWYG type html editor).

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09-21-2007, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by SykkBoy2

Actually, you'd be surprised at how often it does happen though. I have affiliates ask me to review pages from time to time after complaining about clicks not being counted and I'll look at their page and there will be a weird linking code error (often times it happens when they use a WSYIWYG type html editor).

What he said.
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09-21-2007, 07:41 AM

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09-21-2007, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by SykkBoy2

Actually, you'd be surprised at how often it does happen though. I have affiliates ask me to review pages from time to time after complaining about clicks not being counted and I'll look at their page and there will be a weird linking code error (often times it happens when they use a WSYIWYG type html editor).

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when you use an editor, make you page, and save it. Then OPEN IT WITH NOTE PAD and insert the linking code. Save it again and ftp.

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09-21-2007, 07:55 AM

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09-21-2007, 08:13 AM

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