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  • theking
    Nice Kitty
    • Sep 2002
    • 21053

    #136
    If an officer simply told one to shut up and one does not this is a violation of the law (usually interferring with an officer in the lawful perfomance of his duty but it could be one of several other charges) and the officer can arrest you and if you continue to be non compliant with his verbal commands you are now guilty of resisting...and in most states...if not the majority...an officer can use whatever non lethal force becomes necessary to get you to comply...which includes tasers...non lethal bullets...clubs etc.
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    • ServerGenius
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2002
      • 9377

      #137
      Originally posted by aico
      Do you even know what the fuck a democracy is? It's 51% of the people telling the other 49% what they can and cannot do. So if 51% of us think it's ok he got tazerred then it makes it ok.
      Thanks for letting us know you don't
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      • CDSmith
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • May 2001
        • 51460

        #138
        On a different note, if the actions of the security staff are later deemed to be use of excessive force, that tazering could be the best thing to ever happen to that kid.

        I would not be at all surprised if he were to sue the university and win a huge settlement to the tune of millions.

        Wouldn't be the first time some idiot made bank over such an incident.
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        • theking
          Nice Kitty
          • Sep 2002
          • 21053

          #139
          Originally posted by ServerGenius
          Thanks for letting us know you don't
          He of course is correct...but there is not now and there has never been a Democracy as a form of government. The US is a Republic with a Representative Democracy.
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          • SmokeyTheBear
            ►SouthOfHeaven
            • Jun 2004
            • 28609

            #140
            lots of issues at play here ..

            to start off with regardless of who was right or wrong.

            the police should have stated what he was arrested for . it would have been very simple.

            YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO LEAVE THE PREMISES. IF YOU DO NOT YOU WILL BE ARRESTED FOR TRESSPASSING.

            YOU ARE NOW UNDER ARREST FOR TRESSPASSING..

            very simple . he would have zero argument , and would have looked like an idiot if he refused.

            IF he had done that THEN he would have a great argument for being asked to leave because of his question.
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            • theking
              Nice Kitty
              • Sep 2002
              • 21053

              #141
              Originally posted by CDSmith
              On a different note, if the actions of the security staff are later deemed to be use of excessive force, that tazering could be the best thing to ever happen to that kid.

              I would not be at all surprised if he were to sue the university and win a huge settlement to the tune of millions.

              Wouldn't be the first time some idiot made bank over such an incident.
              He of course can sue even if the officer is deemed not to have used excessive force...but probably would not fare well at a trial...but the University could settle without going to trial just to avoid further embarrasment...but of course it would not be to the tune of millions.

              Rodney King was an idiot and he fared quite well...to the tune of millions...if I remember correctly.

              Once again CD...througout this thread you have proved to be the voice of reason and common sense.
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              • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                • Jul 2004
                • 38323

                #142
                Here is a longer version of the video, picking up where the police confront the student:

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NWukZhsiBw&NR=1

                After asking several more times why he is being arrested, he is finally informed by a police officer that he is being arrested for "inciting a riot".

                WTF? I am not defending the kids stupid attitude/behavior, but c'mon - "inciting a riot"?!?

                He was later charged with something entirely different, indicating that the police themselves didn't have a good answer at the time, to his question as to why he was being arrested - which begs the question, if they did not know why they were arresting him, why were they arresting him?

                If you go back and watch the first video posted, when the student is asking questions, you can see a few students walk out, and most students are sitting looking at him, many with smiles on their face or laughing. I certainly didn't see a riot developing, just a person excercing their free speech rights in a rather ridiculous manner.

                I also noted in viewing the first video a second time, that a big police officer grabbed the kid in a bear hug and carried him most of the way to the exit (the kid was not putting up much resistance, just waving his book and continuing to ask why he is being arrested).

                There are much more effective ways, that law enforcement is trained for, to remove people that are non-violently resisting arrest than what was shown on the tapes.

                The student was overly emotional, but if you simply listen to the words in his questions, he was not inciting a riot.

                I should note that he was ultimately charged with disturbing a public function and resisting arrest with force.

                John Kerry released this statement on the incident: "In 37 years of public appearances, through wars, protests and highly emotional events, I have never had a dialogue end this way.

                I believe I could have handled the situation without interruption, but I do not know what warnings or other exchanges transpired between the young man and the police prior to his barging to the front of the line and their intervention.

                I asked the police to allow me to answer the question and was in the process of responding when he was taken into custody. I was not aware that a taser was used until after I left the building.

                I hope that neither the student nor any of the police were injured. I regret enormously that a good healthy discussion was interrupted."
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                • NiteRain
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 600

                  #143
                  Kerry, even said the questions he asked were okay, and he was going to answer them. I guess the campus police were to busy trying to get the guy to shut up to hear him.
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                  • D
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 7412

                    #144
                    Originally posted by ServerGenius
                    at least not in a democracy.
                    I think you meant "free society" - because a democracy really doesn't have a lot to do with your point.

                    And the U.S. is, ideally, a "free society."

                    But - as a side note - contrary to popular belief, the U.S. is not a democracy... nor has it ever been a democracy... it's a Republic.

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                    • theking
                      Nice Kitty
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 21053

                      #145
                      Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                      lots of issues at play here ..

                      to start off with regardless of who was right or wrong.

                      the police should have stated what he was arrested for . it would have been very simple.

                      YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO LEAVE THE PREMISES. IF YOU DO NOT YOU WILL BE ARRESTED FOR TRESSPASSING.

                      YOU ARE NOW UNDER ARREST FOR TRESSPASSING..

                      very simple . he would have zero argument , and would have looked like an idiot if he refused.

                      IF he had done that THEN he would have a great argument for being asked to leave because of his question.
                      He literally became the idiot when he refused the officer's verbal commands...as they did not want to arrest him...but when he resisted their verbal commands he became guilty of resisting.
                      When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

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                      • Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 7515

                        #146
                        When a Police Officer gives you an order - you comply. You can always litigate later, but you comply. What a fucking moron.

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                        • Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 7515

                          #147
                          Originally posted by BadBoy_Dave
                          The douchebag deserved it..

                          He cried like a little bitch too

                          I would probably too if I got shocked with 50k volts, but thats just me
                          I love when stuff like this happens in crowds. Listen to the background noise. Sounds like the monkey house at the zoo.

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                          • ronbotx
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 1634

                            #148
                            Originally posted by NiteRain
                            Kerry, even said the questions he asked were okay, and he was going to answer them. I guess the campus police were to busy trying to get the guy to shut up to hear him.
                            Why didn't the great war hero and leader of men take charge of the situation and tell the cops to back off..... instead of standing there like a dummy???

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                            • just a punk
                              So fuckin' bored
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 32393

                              #149
                              Originally posted by ServerGenius
                              See for ya self, only in America

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaiWCS10C5s
                              I really love the US freedom of speech

                              Here is a Russian version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B06TFfzTILA - no stun gunning there perhaps because Putin doesn't like "the freedom of speech" I think
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                              • uno
                                RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 18450

                                #150
                                Originally posted by FelixFlow
                                this is fucking AMERICA, if you can't express your opinion w/o being silenced then wtf !?!??!?!

                                kerry should be ashamed he should have spoken up and told those assholes to chill out...and if kerry didnt want to be asked controversial questions, he should have kept his bitch-ass at home and not had a public quesion/answer session!!!

                                shit like this is fucking disgusting, somebody should have shot every one of those cops in the head - THATS the principles of freedom this nation was founded on

                                the direction our country has taken since 9/11 is fucking sickening
                                I may have missed "Shooting cops in the head." on the Bill of Rights.
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