Getting stun gunned down for just asking a question [VID]

In essence...when an officer speaks...it is the voice of "God" at that moment in time...and any disobediance of the officers verbal commands...is resisting and one will almost always be convicted of resisting if the matter goes to trial.

If he circumvented security then first of all, that was a failure of security. And if they let him stand there quietly like they do before he approaches the microphone, someone better be fucking FIRED for incompetence right off the bat. Maybe all 4 or 5 police/security should be. Evidently ALL of them knew he was there after breaching security right? So instead of taking him down for breaching security, they let him stand and wait for the microphone? Why? More incompetence?

Hmm.. there's plenty to this that seems so clearly WRONG so far.

Maybe the national guard will be called back from Vietnam to restore order on the nations university campuses.


oops.. meant Iraq.. forgot what century it was for a sec.

furthermore, if they really felt he was a security threat (because he allegedly didn't go through security to be checked) then they should have gotten him out of there much sooner. If he HAD been a lunatic with a gun and ready to shoot someone things would obviously have been even worse.

Exactly. Incompetence.

Why do people think he had a right to speak?

FACT: There have been over 80 taser deaths in the U.S. since 1999.

I attend a lot of political speeches, and there are frequently such protestors and disruptions. One would have expected that the police/security should have met prior to a lecture by someone as polarinzing as Senator Kerry, to discuss a strategy for handling such disruptions.

Kerry, and most public speakers are generally adept at handling hecklers. It appeared he was ready to start addressing the questions, but the police/security were already trying to remove the questioner, which only exacerbated the situation.

This made it into a free speech issue, as far as the questioner and his supporters are concerned.

Obviously this individual was worked up and anit-authoritarian. The police used force right from the get go, when it may have been possible to defuse the issue more peacefully.

The heckler strikes me as the type that would have gone on harranguing Kerry, regardless of what he said, and at that point maybe he should have been escorted out. I believe more people would have been supportive of the police in that instance. I believe he would have lost a lot of his emotional piss and vinegar after Kerry started answering his questions.

I'm also surprised that they didn't hustle him all of the way out of the room, but instead pounced on him at the back of the auditorium. That could have led to a far worse crowd control situation, as evidenced by the reaction of one girl near the end of the video.

The fact that no charges were placed against the individual is not surprising. How he asked his question, and the disruption he caused was deplorable, but he only made himself look bad in doing so - that is not a criminal act warranting arrest. A person with a subdued approach could have asked the same question and not much would have been made of it.

In the end, I think the police used excessive force, and had no apparent reason to use a potentially lethal weapon such as a taser gun.

ADG

So a few months back a student walks on VT, kills several students and there is an outrage as to Campus security and response time. A student at UF bypasses a security check, dissrupts a forum, doesn't comply with the rules and is quickly subdued without further incident and there is an outrage.

WTF do people want these days?

Is this supposed to be funny? Because it is. I agree that it is an issue that must be addressed. Having said that, this kid did not address the issue in the proper fashion. It was a question and answer period. Not a "lets see how much bullshit we can spew before the cops come" period.

The tv and pop media have addressed the issue and no one did anything about it. Why bother years after the fact. We may as well start talking about Vietnam again too.

The bottom line here is that this kid was not in the right place for what he did. If he wants to voice his concerns he should choose an appropriate stage, that unfortunatly for him was not the one.

it's completely irrelevant how stupid the guy was and how much he was in the
wrong.....6 cops carried him to the back of the room, threw him on his back
the guy clearly gave up when he realized he was gonna get tazered and they
still shot him.......victim is under control....no need to tazer him. Regardless
of what crime he has committed. Cops don't have the right to revenge or
getting even.....at least not in a democracy.

Watch his right hand. He's still struggling before they zapped him.

Once again...nice try at misinformation and spin. He was still not complying with verbal commands and this is resisting by legal definition. You and others seem to believe that resisting must involve physicality but it does not.

not many people showed up to hear Kerry speak.

I'm surprised it took this thread 3 pages before someone raised that point. :D





Btw as I've already said, I'm no fan of cops/security on power trips either.

All I'm saying is when you get yourself into a situation like that, you get what you get. Instead of complaining about it after why not try acting differently in the first place and avoid bringing it on?

No way in hell they were going to allow that twit to monopolize the mic and babble on with question after question loaded with accusations and conspiracy theories, all the while not letting the guy on stage a chance to answer any of it. Absolutely he should have been tossed out, and if you resist, well... what can I say.

Resisting arrest is rarely if ever a smart idea.

Something to complain about.

Do you even know what the fuck a democracy is? It's 51% of the people telling the other 49% what they can and cannot do. So if 51% of us think it's ok he got tazerred then it makes it ok.