Raw Alex - Please help me understand.

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This thread turned out to be a very good business thread!!!

I just wish there was some sort of samples that we could see to understand better the concept. At this point, the "good" 10 minutes videos are only an unproven myth.

I think what happens with something like this though, is a sample gets posted and people rave about how good it is...then someone with less experience and maybe doesn't quite understand what they are seeing tries to replicate that and they don't do it quite right. Someone else sees THAT example and does similar...takes the concept and changes it a bit and maybe not quite for the better. Then it sort of cascades to a bunch of people who don't quite know what they are doing but want to at least look like it and what made the original sell is lost and almost negates what made it sell in the first place.

I think that's what happened with the whole "give away free porn" for the masses. It was less to do with trying to one up each other and more to due with the inexperienced trying to match up with the experienced and just not quite getting it right.

I also agree with tranza's post, this is turning out to be a great business thread so far....discussion of ideas without "you suck, fuck you for not believing like I do"

Sykky, at the end of the day, I think all of us want to find methods and theories that help us all sell more porn. I will gladly give away 10 times more bandwidth for double the sales (understanding the cost of bandwidth relative to the value of a sale). We are all pretty much bottom line people.

So far the only sites I have seen with longer form videos seem to be very dependant on third party ads, dating sites, and other non-porn revenue to make things work out. I don't deny this as being a functional business model, provided all the content is used with permission or the rights have been purchased. At this point there are only a very few programs putting content out in clips bigger than about 30 seconds.

So yeah, this is a great thread - we are all here to make money. I am hoping that Warchild or someone can provide a little guidance and understanding as to what is working, because I am sure many, many people are curious.

This goes back to a post I made awhile back about whether porn might become sort of a loss leader...it becomes what gets them to the site rather than what they buy when they get there.

I agree, we could all use a little guidance on these things and of course our own research and testing. Because if someone really had found "new" ways of getting traffic/making sales, I wouldn't expect them to just give those ideas away for free.

I also think, and has been expressed in other threads, that a lot of sponsors might just start opening their own tube sites and the tube sites almost become a sort of mass preview tour.

anybody that wants to submit galleries to me with 10 min clips, will be listed everyday...