War with Iran?
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I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
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I don't think the Iran strategy would be the same as the Iraq strategy. That is, a massive ground invasion would not be part of the plan. Months and months of strategic bombing and guided missles, perhaps tactical nukes - Think of it more as a seige. Iran would be on their knees and no soldier would ever step foot on their soil (save some special forces for target acquisition, etc.. but they wouldn't even know they were there).The US would get their asses handed back to them on a platter if they tried to invade Iran. The ONLY chance the US could ever win is by using nukes and other WMDs. Even if they did that though, they'd still be fucked, because all of a sudden there'd be dirty bombs going off all over the place in the US.
Plus no nation in the world is stupid enough to back the US anymore in another pre-emptive invasion, so they'd be going at it alone. That, and there's a decent chance all of Iran's buddies would jump in, because they'd all be scared they're next, and we all know what happens if the US "liberates" you.
Then again, it wouldn't surprise me at all if the neo-cons actually want this, and are delusional enough to go for it. You know, nuclear war, re-instate the draft, martial law, and all that good stuff that comes with it.
I don't support a war in Iran and Im not american, so I have no vested political interest. I do however enjoy speculating about military conflicts.I died.Comment
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Except there's no way in hell you can come close to winning a war with air strikes only. Well, unless you turn the country into a sheet of glass of course.
It's like back in the 1600s saying you could win a war with nothing more than catapults and archers. Just ain't going to happen. You have to send the ground troops in sooner or later, and Iraq basically just laid down for the US, but don't expect Iran to do the same. ;)Last edited by Guy8856; 09-05-2007, 07:55 AM.Comment
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Depends what the objectives are.Except there's no way in hell you can come close to winning a war with air strikes only. Well, unless you turn the country into a sheet of glass of course.
It's like back in the 1600s saying you could win a war with nothing more than catapults and archers. Just ain't going to happen. You have to send the ground troops in sooner or later, and Iraq basically just laid down for the US, but don't expect Iran to do the same. ;)I died.Comment
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Well, gee, I don't know... maybe it'd piss off the rest of the world, the US would most likely be subjected to an unprecedented number of large-scale terrorist attacks on its soil. And probably to the point where it could drastically harm your country. Not to mention guys like China, India, Pakistan, Russia, North Korea, etc... would all get their red buttons out too.
This is the problem with alot of Americans, and is the reason you don't ever see citizens of European nations all gung-ho for war. Americans have never had a major foreign military force on their land, whereas Europeans know war intimately. Americans just watch the fireworks show on CNN while they do their "shock & awe" campaign.Comment
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crazy people talking about using nukes
I think whoever thinks that is an option should be put in one of the underground test sites and see how they like the radiation. Using nukes won't hurt just one country it would hurt everyone in the area.Comment
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Quoted, so hopefully more Americans will allow that to soak in.This is the problem with alot of Americans, and is the reason you don't ever see citizens of European nations all gung-ho for war. Americans have never had a major foreign military force on their land, whereas Europeans know war intimately. Americans just watch the fireworks show on CNN while they do their "shock & awe" campaign.Comment
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Of course the Us would win a 'war' but the occupation and global consequences would be bad.
Plus many countries (Australia too I hope since our puppet PM is gonna be voted out soon) wouldn't go in with you or support you ... and I imagine you would be on your own with Israel. It will be a bloodbath. An Iranian bloodbath to begin with then once they all start getting desperate and resorting to strapping bombs to themselves Americans will experience their own bloodbath .......... again.
I would rather see that entire region turned into new lakefront property. Nuke it clean and start over. The US can't win this anti Muslim war (comeon lets call it for what it is) without flexing some real muscle. They wipe a region off the map .... watch many Muslim countries fall into line due to fear.IW
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If iran got invaded, that would start world war 3
does everyone really think we can fuck with Russia/Chinas Gas station?
Regardless if they control them or not, those two countries sure as hell won't let us get the resources that are thereComment
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How can we have world peace with people like Amahdinajad in power? He has to be dealt with somehow. We can't just let these crazy middle eastern motherfuckers run free and start to ally and build up their militaries. That would spell big trouble for the future. War sucks, but what else can be done?Comment
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How can we have world peace with people like Bush in power? He has to be dealt with somehow. We can't just let these crazy american motherfuckers run free and start to ally and build up their militaries. That would spell big trouble for the future. War sucks, but what else can be done?
I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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How can we have world peace with people like G. W. Bush in power? He has to be dealt with somehow. We can't just let these crazy americans motherfuckers run free and start to ally and build up their militaries. That would spell big trouble for the future. War sucks, but what else can be done?How can we have world peace with people like Amahdinajad in power? He has to be dealt with somehow. We can't just let these crazy middle eastern motherfuckers run free and start to ally and build up their militaries. That would spell big trouble for the future. War sucks, but what else can be done?Comment
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What the fuck are you talking about? It's not just George Bush. All the republicans running for president are a bunch of Bush Jr's (except Paul). Quit pointing the finger at Bush, he doesn't stand alone on his views. The far left wants us to just lay down and get assfucked by the middle east. Fuck that shit. I'd rather get them first.How can we have world peace with people like G. W. Bush in power? He has to be dealt with somehow. We can't just let these crazy americans motherfuckers run free and start to ally and build up their militaries. That would spell big trouble for the future. War sucks, but what else can be done?Comment
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Like Bush, he will be voted out soon. He has done his years in Iran.How can we have world peace with people like Amahdinajad in power? He has to be dealt with somehow. We can't just let these crazy middle eastern motherfuckers run free and start to ally and build up their militaries. That would spell big trouble for the future. War sucks, but what else can be done?
Plus, why shouldnt Iran build up their military? Last time i checked, it was the US who invaded another country and not Iran.Comment
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I can't believe Americans stick up for piece of shit arab nations over their own. It's really sad.Comment
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Don't write off the Iranian Air Force and Navy, both are a viable threat to anyone that wants to tussle with them. There's about 50 out of the 79 F-14's we gave them still flying today. Not to mention another 44 F-4 and about 50 F-5's
and finally there's about 60 MiG-29's and and about 25+ MiG-27's
Navy wise, there is about 6 diesel-electric Kilo class subs, 3 frigates, 25 missile crafts, and some 200+ misc vessels that when you consider the asymmetric threat they can pose, I don't really want to be writing orbats around that.Comment
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Did you read the rest of the post or do you just want to be a smart ass and quote a few words? We won the actual war part easily. As far as I'm concerned we could have left right after that and let that entire cesspool of a country explode into a never ending civil war.
I supported the war when I was under the impression that Iraq possessed WMD's. When it was proven that the American people were sold a false bill of goods I tried to be optimistic and rationalize it, thinking that at least the Iraqi people were freed from an oppressive dictator that tortured them. When I realized how ungrateful the Iraqi citizens were, I came to the conslusion that the whole war was a fucking huge waste and we should have let Saddam continue to rule with an iron fist. It is apparent that is the only way Iraq will have any stability, as those savages obviously only respond to an oppressive dictator.
Once again, it is readily apparent to me why half of GFY has you on ignore...Last edited by Profits of Doom; 09-05-2007, 10:32 PM.Comment
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lol, I can't believe I took your word for that. Here you go, Iran is on the list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArabComment
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I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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If you would have read the page posted by the DoomGuy, you would have seen that some Iranians are arabs ( see above ) like some Iranians are JEWISH .....Overview
The CIA World Factbook estimates that approximately 3% of Iran's 68,017,860 citizens are Arabic-speakers, of whom the majority live in Khuzestan, with 1% speaking Arabic as their native or primary language.[1]
A 1998 report by UNCHR reported 2 million Arabs residing in Khuzestan Province, most of whom are Shi'a. Sunni Muslim Arabs live along the Persian Gulf coastline. [2]
According to Jane's Information Group, "Most Iranian Arabs seek their constitutionally guaranteed rights and do not have a separatist agenda ... While it may be true that some Arab activists are separatists, most see themselves as Iranians first and declare their commitment to the state's territorial integrity." [3]
According to the Minorities at Risk Project 2001, about 40 per cent of Arabs are unskilled workers living in urban areas. The Arabs in the rural areas are primarily farmers and fishermen. The Arabs living along the Persian Gulf coastal plains are mostly pastoral nomads. Tribal loyalties are strong among rural Arabs, but also have an influence in urban areas. These have an impact on Arab socialisation and politicisation. [4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs_of_Khuzestan
I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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i think america should bomb the world. that way we will all be dead and wont have to worry about anything.
game set match.Comment
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hmm so the "war part" is over?Did you read the rest of the post or do you just want to be a smart ass and quote a few words? We won the actual war part easily. As far as I'm concerned we could have left right after that and let that entire cesspool of a country explode into a never ending civil war.
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