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  • TampaToker
    Confirmed User
    • May 2006
    • 5828
    #1

    Google gains more power

    Google isn't big enough. Right. So, now the dingbats who run some of the big news services are making it bigger. How? Well, they reckon it's okay to make Google "take" their feeds rather than link to their very own customers, thus screwing those customers and further benefiting Google. Let me try to explain.

    The Google News site robotically scans hundreds of news sources and provides a faux front page of popular news items, with hundreds, if not thousands, of redundant links to those stories (as they are carried by local news outlets). Google links to these outlets, and this is where the reader then goes to read the story. If the story is from the Associated Press , then the local outlet pays the AP for the content.

    Until now.

    The AP, among others, saw this as some sort of vague copyright violation. It demanded that Google pay a license fee and link to the story directly from the Google site. So, Google said okay. Now, the newspapers?who collectively "own" the AP?lose a link and a potential View the full story
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    • WiredGuy
      Pounding Googlebot
      • Aug 2002
      • 34512
      #2
      Here's the real link: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2178969,00.asp
      WG
      I play with Google.

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        • TampaToker
          Confirmed User
          • May 2006
          • 5828
          #3
          Originally posted by WiredGuy
          Here's the real link: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2178969,00.asp
          WG
          What was the purpose of that?
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            • WiredGuy
              Pounding Googlebot
              • Aug 2002
              • 34512
              #4
              Because your link goes to the exact same thing you copied and pasted and not the complete article.
              WG
              I play with Google.

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                • TampaToker
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2006
                  • 5828
                  #5
                  Originally posted by WiredGuy
                  Because your link goes to the exact same thing you copied and pasted and not the complete article.
                  WG
                  There is a link to the whole story in the link i posted....
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                    • Libertine
                      sex dwarf
                      • May 2002
                      • 17860
                      #6
                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                      Because your link goes to the exact same thing you copied and pasted and not the complete article.
                      WG
                      God, those viraldiscussion links piss me off...
                      /(bb|[^b]{2})/

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                        • WiredGuy
                          Pounding Googlebot
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 34512
                          #7
                          Originally posted by TampaToker
                          There is a link to the whole story in the link i posted....
                          Yes, and the link I posted goes directly to the article. You may as well have posted the entire article, or posted a link that went to the actual story instead of going through multiple steps.
                          WG
                          I play with Google.

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                            • TampaToker
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2006
                              • 5828
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Libertine
                              God, those viraldiscussion links piss me off...
                              I ain't tryin to piss no one off im trying to building up a site. I am not violating any gfy rules that im aware off. Once again im sorry this upsets you....
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                                • Life
                                  Registered User
                                  • Sep 2007
                                  • 10
                                  #9
                                  Google is going to takeover the world!
                                  Last edited by Life; 09-04-2007, 11:03 AM.

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                                    • WiredGuy
                                      Pounding Googlebot
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 34512
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by TampaToker
                                      I ain't tryin to piss no one off im trying to building up a site. I am not violating any gfy rules that im aware off. Once again im sorry this upsets you....
                                      Its perfectly fine, its just annoying as hell. Why not just copy and paste the entire article to the site instead of making people click around?
                                      WG
                                      I play with Google.

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                                        • TampaToker
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2006
                                          • 5828
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                          Its perfectly fine, its just annoying as hell. Why not just copy and paste the entire article to the site instead of making people click around?
                                          WG

                                          I know what you sayin just gotta wait for programmer to get back from vacation.
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                                            • Vick!
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2005
                                              • 6882
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by TampaToker
                                              What was the purpose of that?
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                                                • StuartD
                                                  Sofa King Band
                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                  • 29903
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Libertine
                                                  God, those viraldiscussion links piss me off...
                                                  Myself as well actually.
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                                                    • WiredGuy
                                                      Pounding Googlebot
                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 34512
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by TampaToker
                                                      I know what you sayin just gotta wait for programmer to get back from vacation.
                                                      You need a programmer to copy and paste?
                                                      WG
                                                      I play with Google.

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                                                        • wyldblyss
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                          • 5779
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                          You need a programmer to copy and paste?
                                                          WG
                                                          haha wiredguy, thanks for my laugh for the day!

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                                                            • TampaToker
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                                                              • May 2006
                                                              • 5828
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                              You need a programmer to copy and paste?
                                                              WG
                                                              Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                              Yes, and the link I posted goes directly to the article. You may as well have posted the entire article, or posted a link that went to the actual story instead of going through multiple steps.
                                                              I was referring about posting the whole article on viral. Right now there is a set limit count of 750. Of course i don't need a programmer to copy and past here lol. But even if i did paste the whole story here that would then kill the ctr and well you know how that goes...
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                                                                • KimJI
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                                                                  • May 2007
                                                                  • 1839
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Let me get this straight

                                                                  - You are annoyed that Google "take" feeds and post it on their site instead of linking to it

                                                                  - And you present that story to us by linking to YOUR site where you placed a part of the text you stole, instead of linking straight to the source?

                                                                  How is that different than what Google does?
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                                                                    • Iron Fist
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Dec 2006
                                                                      • 23400
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by TampaToker
                                                                      I was referring about posting the whole article on viral. Right now there is a set limit count of 750. Of course i don't need a programmer to copy and past here lol. But even if i did paste the whole story here that would then kill the ctr and well you know how that goes...
                                                                      1. This is a webmaster board.

                                                                      2. Most of us are smart enough to hunt for the real link and *ARE* annoyed that we need to click twice for the story.

                                                                      3. There isn't a hope in hell i'm clicking banners on a blog thats linking to a story i'm looking for.

                                                                      So... why bother?
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                                                                        • TampaToker
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • May 2006
                                                                          • 5828
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by sharphead
                                                                          1. This is a webmaster board.

                                                                          2. Most of us are smart enough to hunt for the real link and *ARE* annoyed that we need to click twice for the story.

                                                                          3. There isn't a hope in hell i'm clicking banners on a blog thats linking to a story i'm looking for.

                                                                          So... why bother?
                                                                          cause it works...
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                                                                            • StuBradley
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                              • 2625
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Libertine
                                                                              God, those viraldiscussion links piss me off...
                                                                              I concur.

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                                                                                • D
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2006
                                                                                  • 7412
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Ignoring the irony points of your initial post for a moment... which are certainly there...

                                                                                  Assuming you're not paying the wire service/publisher, by copying that much of the article - and making money off of it - you do realize you're opening yourself up for a lawsuit, right?

                                                                                  You're profiting off of copy written works that are not your own.
                                                                                  Last edited by D; 09-04-2007, 01:33 PM.
                                                                                  -D.
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                                                                                    • D
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2006
                                                                                      • 7412
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Actually... the article mentions the whole copywright thing, too.


                                                                                      The irony in this thread is as thick as the fog on a cold London morning.
                                                                                      -D.
                                                                                      ICQ: 202-96-31

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                                                                                        • cherrylula
                                                                                          lol
                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                          • 15969
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Libertine
                                                                                          God, those viraldiscussion links piss me off...
                                                                                          yeah I won't click either.

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                                                                                            • TampaToker
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • May 2006
                                                                                              • 5828
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by D
                                                                                              Ignoring the irony points of your initial post for a moment... which are certainly there...

                                                                                              Assuming you're not paying the wire service/publisher, by copying that much of the article - and making money off of it - you do realize you're opening yourself up for a lawsuit, right?

                                                                                              You're profiting off of copy written works that are not your own.
                                                                                              There is no profit being made off the site at all...
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                                                                                                • cherrylula
                                                                                                  lol
                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                  • 15969
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                  Its perfectly fine, its just annoying as hell. Why not just copy and paste the entire article to the site instead of making people click around?
                                                                                                  WG
                                                                                                  Its like they are spamming surfer crap on an adult webmaster board. Very annoying, and almost insulting.

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                                                                                                    • mistergardener
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                                                                      • 746
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Google rules the earth.

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                                                                                                        • WiredGuy
                                                                                                          Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                                          • 34512
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by TampaToker
                                                                                                          There is no profit being made off the site at all...
                                                                                                          Then why frustrate webmasters by making them click around to get to the actual article?
                                                                                                          WG
                                                                                                          I play with Google.

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                                                                                                            • cherrylula
                                                                                                              lol
                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                              • 15969
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by D
                                                                                                              You're profiting off of copy written works that are not your own.
                                                                                                              like a torrent? ::gasp::

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                                                                                                                • D
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Jan 2006
                                                                                                                  • 7412
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by TampaToker
                                                                                                                  There is no profit being made off the site at all...
                                                                                                                  That could change things (honestly, I'm not sure - ask a lawyer), but...

                                                                                                                  really?
                                                                                                                  -D.
                                                                                                                  ICQ: 202-96-31

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                                                                                                                    • Fletch XXX
                                                                                                                      GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                      • 60840
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by TampaToker
                                                                                                                      im trying to building up a site. I am not violating any gfy rules that im aware off.
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by TampaToker
                                                                                                                      that would then kill the ctr
                                                                                                                      this guy is not after a discussion about this here.

                                                                                                                      "he is building up a site"

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                                                                                                                        • bandwagon
                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                          • Sep 2007
                                                                                                                          • 19
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          viral discussion hating bandwagon ALL ON BOARD!!

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                                                                                                                            • JD
                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                              • 22651
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Hey TampaToker... I banned your buddy peterk for doing this shit on ADX... imo it should be done to you here....

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                                                                                                                                • TampaToker
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • May 2006
                                                                                                                                  • 5828
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                                                                  this guy is not after a discussion about this here.

                                                                                                                                  "he is building up a site"
                                                                                                                                  If i wasn't up for a discussion i would not be replying to these post. As far as i know i am not doing anything illegal....
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                                                                                                                                    • Fletch XXX
                                                                                                                                      GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 60840
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by TampaToker
                                                                                                                                      If i wasn't up for a discussion i would not be replying to these post. As far as i know i am not doing anything illegal....
                                                                                                                                      I dont care how much you spam gfy. I just find it stunning you actually just admit you are here only for the "CTR" of posting "RSSed" articles.

                                                                                                                                      As I told you in your other thread...

                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                                                                      why not just link the original ynot article? ;)

                                                                                                                                      setting up rss feeds to display their articles on your site then making threads about them is a bit redundant no?
                                                                                                                                      You havent done this once or twice because it was interesting topic, you are doing it to build traffic to viral discussion.

                                                                                                                                      http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ight=redundant

                                                                                                                                      I didnt say you were doing anything illegal, but to say you are doing this for ANY other reason than getting traffic is a lie.

                                                                                                                                      if this is the method of success you guys are trying to take, i give your site 2 months before all the posts are "0 replies and comments' much like it is now...

                                                                                                                                      cya in 2 months Tampa

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                                                                                                                                        • bandwagon
                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2007
                                                                                                                                          • 19
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Hey dont hate on innovators like Viral Discussion...

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                                                                                                                                            • TampaToker
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • May 2006
                                                                                                                                              • 5828
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
                                                                                                                                              Hey TampaToker... I banned your buddy peterk for doing this shit on ADX... imo it should be done to you here....
                                                                                                                                              Hey if the mods got a problem with i am sure they would of contacted me or banned me by now. I post a few story's a day. Its there board there rules and if they ban me so be it. So if they ban me i understand completely.
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                                                                                                                                                • TampaToker
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • May 2006
                                                                                                                                                  • 5828
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                                                                                  I dont care how much you spam gfy. I just find it stunning you actually just admit you are here only for the "CTR" of posting "RSSed" articles.

                                                                                                                                                  As I told you in your other thread...



                                                                                                                                                  You havent done this once or twice because it was interesting topic, you are doing it to build traffic to viral discussion.

                                                                                                                                                  http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ight=redundant

                                                                                                                                                  I didnt say you were doing anything illegal, but to say you are doing this for ANY other reason than getting traffic is a lie.

                                                                                                                                                  if this is the method of success you guys are trying to take, i give your site 2 months before all the posts are "0 replies and comments' much like it is now...

                                                                                                                                                  cya in 2 months Tampa
                                                                                                                                                  lol some projects make it some fail so only time will tell.
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                                                                                                                                                    • TampaToker
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • May 2006
                                                                                                                                                      • 5828
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by bandwagon
                                                                                                                                                      Hey dont hate on innovators like Viral Discussion...
                                                                                                                                                      i know right lol its cool thu people got a right to there opinion so i respect that.
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                                                                                                                                                        • bandwagon
                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2007
                                                                                                                                                          • 19
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by TampaToker
                                                                                                                                                          i know right lol its cool thu people got a right to there opinion so i respect that.
                                                                                                                                                          Rss feeds... man that is fucking innovative mucho props!

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                                                                                                                                                            • TampaToker
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                                                                                                                                                              • May 2006
                                                                                                                                                              • 5828
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by bandwagon
                                                                                                                                                              Rss feeds... man that is fucking innovative mucho props!
                                                                                                                                                              thank you thank you

                                                                                                                                                              and yes i know you are being sarcastic
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                                                                                                                                                                • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 40377
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by cherrylula
                                                                                                                                                                  Its like they are spamming surfer crap on an adult webmaster board. Very annoying, and almost insulting.
                                                                                                                                                                  well but they are spamming not a surfer site, they are spamming a 'webmaster resource' (?) site

                                                                                                                                                                  can be annoying, but it's simple business for them, we are all here for biz (well, more or less )
                                                                                                                                                                  I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 40377
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
                                                                                                                                                                      Hey TampaToker... I banned your buddy peterk for doing this shit on ADX... imo it should be done to you here....
                                                                                                                                                                      that's interesting

                                                                                                                                                                      aren't you all buddies? I mean will76 started referralmatrix.com and viraldiscussion.com recently with some help of others (peterk?) and then many people here on GFY put his banner into their sigs as a gesture of support for what will76 is doing for the community - at least this was my impression

                                                                                                                                                                      and I thought that you - sperminator, and your mentor damagex and will76, tampatoker etc are all buddies (note - I say "buddies", not "bros") fighting for the same things so I thought you support each other;s projects

                                                                                                                                                                      just an observation I had, not sure how accurate it was or how relevant this observation is to this thread
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                                                                                                                                                                        • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 40377
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                                                                                                          if this is the method of success you guys are trying to take, i give your site 2 months before all the posts are "0 replies and comments' much like it is now...

                                                                                                                                                                          cya in 2 months Tampa
                                                                                                                                                                          not saying I wish that it fails, but it wouldn't surprise me

                                                                                                                                                                          my impression is that nowadays there's really not much room for new resoure sites, or even forums

                                                                                                                                                                          everyone is already on GFY and most people here have the lazy attitude, they want every news and discussions taking place here, all the other resource sites, especially the new ones, don't really add any value to the average webmaster
                                                                                                                                                                          I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • plyndrty
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                              • 1477
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Sup Toker? See you have your hands full these days...

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                                                                                                                                                                                • TampaToker
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 5828
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by plyndrty
                                                                                                                                                                                  Sup Toker? See you have your hands full these days...

                                                                                                                                                                                  Ain't it your turn to buy wings from Hooters?
                                                                                                                                                                                  wow whats up man how the hell you been. Actually just another day at the office. Hit me up on icq sometime lets catch up. 247-742-205
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • TheSenator
                                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 13330
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      I ate a taco salad.
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • DaddyHalbucks
                                                                                                                                                                                          A freakin' legend!
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 18975
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by TampaToker
                                                                                                                                                                                          There is no profit being made off the site at all...
                                                                                                                                                                                          Now.. or in the future when it has traffic?
                                                                                                                                                                                          Boner Money

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • rowan
                                                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 17393
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              The article itself is also 2 pages, which means you need to click AGAIN to read the last 7 paragraphs!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • pornask
                                                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 6518
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  fuck google...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • SomeCreep
                                                                                                                                                                                                      :glugglug
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 26118
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Google sucks camel testicles when it comes to Adult, but I sure do love their stock

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