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Worse converting sponsor of 2005?????

12-23-2005, 04:15 PM

Minimum of 2k or 3k uniques I think is fair.

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surprised.. great sites and galleries but garbage conversions....

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12-23-2005, 04:17 PM

2k or 3k uniques is fair to judge a sponsor? are you kidding?

what kind of traffic are you sending?

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12-23-2005, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by sonofsam

2k or 3k uniques is fair to judge a sponsor? are you kidding?

what kind of traffic are you sending?

I dont know.. just answer the fucking question

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12-23-2005, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by dvd316

I dont know.. just answer the fucking question

okay, sexfeeder is the worst converting sponsor

i've sent 13 uniques and havn't made a sale yet..

they must be shaving!

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12-23-2005, 04:21 PM

christ....

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12-23-2005, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by dvd316

christ....

well comon man, why would you come and name panchodog as worst converting sponsor when you've only sent 2000 or 3000 uniques? that's not fair

what if you sent 5k uniques and made 4 sales in the last K ?

its not enough traffic to come and name them worst converting sponsor

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12-23-2005, 04:24 PM

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12-23-2005, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by sonofsam

well comon man, why would you come and name panchodog as worst converting sponsor when you've only sent 2000 or 3000 uniques? that's not fair

what if you sent 5k uniques and made 4 sales in the last K ?

its not enough traffic to come and name them worst converting sponsor

true. I havent sent them as much traffic as others but the conversion still sits at almost 1:4k...

Just getting some convo going

I know, negative convo but business related nonetheless

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12-23-2005, 04:34 PM

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12-23-2005, 04:36 PM

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12-23-2005, 04:36 PM

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12-23-2005, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by dvd316

Minimum of 2k or 3k uniques I think is fair.

Mine is...

panchodog at 1:3939

surprised.. great sites and galleries but garbage conversions....

You'd be around 1:2000 if your next hit was a sale. Making Pancho Dog look bad when you didn't send them much traffic isn't really fair.
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12-23-2005, 04:43 PM

I don't think that makes them look bad. Most people know it's not enough to make a fair judgement. If that is what his ratio is, then so be it. I doubt he is posting fake stats.
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12-23-2005, 04:48 PM

Hi,

Whenever your ratios are near 1:1000 you should always contact an affiliate representative to help you understand what the problem could be.

We have experience in this and can clear things up, when working one on one with the affiliate. By not contacting a sponsor, you are not allowing us to do our job.

We will analyze your account, your traffic, your ad tools, and the way you are promoting us. We will also look at our stats, join form hits, declines, and many other things that will allow us to determine what to do to improve your ratios and sales.

We will also request information from you, such as similar sponsor campaigns, etc. to better understand where the problem lies.

Last but not least, we will help you with what sites will work best with your traffic, based on our experience. Sometimes, a website just does not take to certain traffic, but by changing the sites you are promoting or limiting them to the top sellers, for example, things change quite a bit. ;)

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12-23-2005, 04:50 PM

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12-23-2005, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by pimpporn

You'd be around 1:2000 if your next hit was a sale. Making Pancho Dog look bad when you didn't send them much traffic isn't really fair.

1:2000 is still fucking shitty.

there's a reason for ratio's like this. It's called saturation. too many fuckers pushing the same shit & it's thinning out the conversions.

How can one make a sale to a paysite when the surfer can type in his favorite models name & get a list of millions of sites, then the surfer will just click from site to site & see thousands of pics of his favorite girl. Fuck, everyday the majority of my SE traffic is solo girls models names.

Raven Riley, Brooke Skye, Alyssa Doll, Michelle Lynn, Cherry Potter, all the pancho dogs Fey girls.. shit, these surfers arent going to pay for a membership. too many fuckwads building whole sites around one girl.

Fucking damn, one day I saw a few sites that had at least 50 galleries of the same model. Now why the fuck would this surfer buy a membership when he can bookmark this FREE blog & come back every few days & get more FREE pics of this girl for FREE!!! too much fucking saturation.

Never had I in my life had conversions & sales so fucking poor & bad til I started pushing solo girls. I'm fucking going broke here. Seriously, I need to change what I push & I am beginning to see that any sponsor that shows up on this board is going to have poor conversions.

Only solo girl I ever made a sale on was Brooke Skye & that was luck. OH, & I sold a recurring sale to Crystal Kleins site.. that's it, not a single sale to any other solo sites.. Reason I focused on the solo girls was that I like them, liked it better & thought it would work out, but fact is, the money's not there & I don't think it will be there. I think I'm going to start focusing on sites & sponsors that are not being whored or pushed on this board. the less people pushing them, the more sales I'll make. No sense pushing a site if that site is also being pushed by a million other people.
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12-23-2005, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by rico-panchodog

Whenever your ratios are near 1:1000 you should always contact an affiliate representative to help you understand what the problem could be.

Why? i think 1:1000 is an outstanding ratio.. unless the sponsor is counting 2nd page uniques or join page uniques... which is useless to begin with

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12-23-2005, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by pocketkangaroo

I don't think that makes them look bad. Most people know it's not enough to make a fair judgement. If that is what his ratio is, then so be it. I doubt he is posting fake stats.

I think most people realize this but I am under the impression he only sent 1 join. I could be wrong.
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12-23-2005, 04:53 PM

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12-23-2005, 04:54 PM

I have not promoted them,

But I have been sending my 404 to pussycash

and have done great, 1 in 3 to 4k.

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12-23-2005, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by sonofsam

Why? i think 1:1000 is an outstanding ratio.. unless the sponsor is counting 2nd page uniques or join page uniques... which is useless to begin with

It is a decent ratio, but in the case of AndiPink, for example, her average ratio is 1:690, including prettybad traffic mixed in there. So when an affiliate is over 1000 clicks and has not made a sale, it is in our best interest and his, to see if there is anything we can do to improve on that. Never hurts to overwork these things.

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12-23-2005, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by rico-panchodog

It is a decent ratio, but in the case of AndiPink, for example, her average ratio is 1:690, including prettybad traffic mixed in there. So when an affiliate is over 1000 clicks and has not made a sale, it is in our best interest and his, to see if there is anything we can do to improve on that. Never hurts to overwork these things.

1:700 first page uniques??

well congrats to you, i can't keep a ratio like that on my solo site with the mixes of 404 and exit traffic thrown in there.. but props i guess

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12-23-2005, 04:59 PM

It doesnt matter.

It doesnt matter.

It doesnt matter.

If you find a dogshyte converter - they could be shaving thieving bastards or they just have a shit product.

Either way - name them - and then FUCK THEM OFF.

In the new year I'll start a "NAME THE SHIT SPONSOR.COM" SITE.

And we can all post our figures there. Ill promote it heavily for free and then - no matter if they shave or dont convert or WHATEVER - we can FUCK EM OFF.

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12-23-2005, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by MrChips

It doesnt matter.

It doesnt matter.

It doesnt matter.

If you find a dogshyte converter - they could be shaving thieving bastards or they just have a shit product.

Either way - name them - and then FUCK THEM OFF.

In the new year I'll start a "NAME THE SHIT SPONSOR.COM" SITE.

And we can all post our figures there. Ill promote it heavily for free and then - no matter if they shave or dont convert or WHATEVER - we can FUCK EM OFF.

FUCK EM RIGHT OFF

.......i'm sorry. what?

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12-23-2005, 05:01 PM

Just registered - FUCKEMOFF.COM

Lets see which fuck witted sponsor programs get listed there then in the new year.
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12-23-2005, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by pimpporn

I think most people realize this but I am under the impression he only sent 1 join. I could be wrong.

That was the impression I got.

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12-23-2005, 05:05 PM

The new site will fucking act as a "THIS SITE CONVERTS LIKE A LUMP OF DOGSHIT" site warning.

So - as i say

"it doesnt matter" if its shaving or a shit product.

Get listed on "FUCKEMOFF.COM" and affililates will run a fucking mile.

I can do the site for free of course - no bastard needs to pay a fucking penny to list a shit converting site.

I'll kick it off with 30,000 or so uniques per month.
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12-23-2005, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by MrChips

Just registered - FUCKEMOFF.COM

Lets see which fuck witted sponsor programs get listed there then in the new year.

..........what?

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12-23-2005, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by sonofsam

1:700 first page uniques??

well congrats to you, i can't keep a ratio like that on my solo site with the mixes of 404 and exit traffic thrown in there.. but props i guess

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12-23-2005, 05:08 PM

In addition - affiliates will prove themselves to be affililates - so that NO SPONSOR SITES CAN POST ANY OF THEIR OWN VIEWS.

Sponsors will not have a say on FUCKEMOFF.COM.

Not one say.
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12-23-2005, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by MrChips

The new site will fucking act as a "THIS SITE CONVERTS LIKE A LUMP OF DOGSHIT" site warning.

So - as i say

"it doesnt matter" if its shaving or a shit product.

Get listed on "FUCKEMOFF.COM" and affililates will run a fucking mile.

I can do the site for free of course - no bastard needs to pay a fucking penny to list a shit converting site.

I'll kick it off with 30,000 or so uniques per month.

mental hospitals allow patients to go home for the Christmas holidays I see.

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12-23-2005, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by sonofsam

Why? i think 1:1000 is an outstanding ratio.. unless the sponsor is counting 2nd page uniques or join page uniques... which is useless to begin with

Usless?

They're pretty important to me. Lets you know what your traffic is doing after it gets past the gallery.

I wish more sponsors would give better breakdowns. Gallery hits, second page, and join page.

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12-23-2005, 05:14 PM

Hegre.. 1:30k
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12-23-2005, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by Martin3

Usless?

They're pretty important to me. Lets you know what your traffic is doing after it gets past the gallery.

I wish more sponsors would give better breakdowns. Gallery hits, second page, and join page.

i was calling second page hits useless...

as in sponsors who ONLY show second page hits and not 1st page hits.

obviously it's a good thing to have all the stats you can get

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12-23-2005, 05:18 PM

Yeah Mutt - lets see how it goes then eh?

Sometimes affiliates offer large amounts of traffic and get nothing back.

When that happens - its time for other affiliates to get the word.

The aim if the site is the name of the site, as its free it will work - comments like "frothing at the mouth" like yours will simply not exist on fuckemoff.com.

Comments like "this site xyz.com converted for me at 1:2000" WILL EXIST.

Then - its up to the affiliate masses to make their choice.

Youll see. No probs. Easy as pie.
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12-23-2005, 05:22 PM

Sometimes the ratio says more about the affiliate than the program.
There is a big difference between feeding tgp random scripts vs stay updated with hardlinks to new sites and optimize your folio constantly (and no - "hall of fame"-scripted galleries are just popular clicks.. not sales).

Anyway, my finger-rules are 8-10 sales before I start looking at the ratio, and if sales only appear with 1:5.000 over a period of 1 week then its bell time.

If the sales rep offer assistance, then take it. Its all about partnership, right?
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12-23-2005, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by MrChips

Just registered - FUCKEMOFF.COM

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12-23-2005, 05:25 PM

Thats cool - a section for sponsors with "SHIT" stats aswell - you know - the ones with stats that tell affiliates nothing - that will scare affiliates away from garbage sponsors too.

I can see it formulating now.

Merry xmas shit sponsors - hohoho.
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12-23-2005, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by Series

Hegre.. 1:30k

I was at 1:109 until second week of december. gotta wait out see what happens with them next month. Again, back to saturation. I pushed when they were still fairly new, now it's all over the fucking place.
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12-23-2005, 05:28 PM

"You fucking have as well."

Yes - yes I have, and I aint kidding - Ill be extending this site to cover sites on CJ, ShareaSale, etc etc.

Walmart may turn up there too.

I think theres a few more affiliates out there these days than people realise on here.

It should be known - that I am on the side of the AFFILIATE for FAIR TRADE.
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12-23-2005, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by dvd316

Minimum of 2k or 3k uniques I think is fair.

Mine is...

panchodog at 1:3939

surprised.. great sites and galleries but garbage conversions....

Such an unfair statement.
What type of traffic? (exit, pop, clicked, se etc.).

Unless you go into great detail about the type of traffic, whether targeted or not, if from galleries then where listed etc. I think the stats you posted are worthless.
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12-23-2005, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by sonofsam

okay, sexfeeder is the worst converting sponsor

i've sent 13 uniques and havn't made a sale yet..

they must be shaving!

You fucking bastard. I laughed so hard I spewed my iced tea on my monitor.

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12-23-2005, 05:34 PM

crapconverters.com - also - same fuckin vein.
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12-23-2005, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by MrChips

crapconverters.com - also - same fuckin vein.

Grumpy yet?

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12-23-2005, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by Mike Okitch

Grumpy yet?

nope.
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12-23-2005, 05:51 PM

all my sponsors are good
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12-23-2005, 05:54 PM

Ponchodog sites convert great for me.....

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12-23-2005, 06:18 PM

Saturation is such an overused excuse..
Look, ever hear of Kleenex? So saturated that sales suck right? No of course not. (no pun intended about saturated kleenex BTW, lol)

Seriously, "saturation"=Brand Recognition. Something companies pay billions in advertising to achieve.
It's a crutch when used as an excuse for poor conversions I hate to say it.

This does not mean to go submit the same pages advertising the same sponsors and sites as everyone and their dog, but dont delude yourself into thinking that because a site is very popular that it's conversions suck, lol. Doesnt make sense at all when you look at it that way, does it?

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12-23-2005, 06:30 PM

hmmm... well I'm not ready quite yet to check all my sponsors but I just checked one of them that I knew wasn't all that great but that I don't send a lot of traffic to either.. sent more than 40k hits this year and it's 1:1877. It's a CCBill sponsor if that makes any difference.
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12-23-2005, 06:32 PM

how would you like it if Panchodog had started a thread titled 'Worst Affiliate With Shitty Traffic of 2005????' and you clicked on it and there the answer was - dvd316 - the most useless affiliate of them all.

i know what Andi Pink's conversion ratios are - and they're very good - you are converting 4-5 times worse than the average affiliate - maybe you should be asking yourself why.

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