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  • SomeCreep
    :glugglug
    • Mar 2003
    • 26118

    #551
    Originally posted by SplitInfinity
    Its all good. Think what you will think, but in the end, bdjuff and I will ride off into the sunset as friends again. I already know what I am willing to do..... just waiting to talk to him. He made this public, however in the end, its between him and I, and the board?
    huh? He said he contacted you 80 times already and after many weeks/months, this issue has not been resolved.

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    • ricks
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2004
      • 924

      #552
      bdjuf, stop crying over peanuts. I'm sure you caused SI more damage than what you paid getting an entire c-class blocked due to your unprofessional spamming. I wouldn't refund you a penny, you are in the wrong business, go back to school or something.
      [QUOTE=DavieVegas]Now i apologize for people who I have scammed in the past or future.QUOTE]

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      • lazycash
        Troll Patrol
        • Aug 2002
        • 15214

        #553
        Originally posted by Evil Doer
        I definitely wouldn't have taken this to the boards...
        So how many months would you have waited to get your money back? Taking it the boards was his last option after five months of trying every other route. After two hours of posting this thread he reached a resolution.
        "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

        Its crazy..."

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        • ChewbaCreative
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2003
          • 1118

          #554
          it's a Drama's time and my drama will be next
          but good luck man to get back your money, bastards must die!(sure after they return money back

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          • Webby
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Oct 2002
            • 14956

            #555
            Originally posted by SomeCreep
            huh? He said he contacted you 80 times already and after many weeks/months, this issue has not been resolved.
            It's the 81st time that really matters...

            Speed is not a bestowed gift with some folks.
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            • sonofsam
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Dec 2004
              • 18647

              #556
              Originally posted by ricks
              bdjuf, stop crying over peanuts. I'm sure you caused SI more damage than what you paid getting an entire c-class blocked due to your unprofessional spamming. I wouldn't refund you a penny, you are in the wrong business, go back to school or something.
              1.) 8k is not peanuts to everyone

              2.) unprofessional spamming? what does that make split infinity, since they knew what he was doing?

              3.) wrong business, go back to school? he is going back to school, but if he also is able to afford the cost of 20 servers, i think he is doing everything right
              I like turtles.

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              • broke
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2003
                • 4501

                #557
                Originally posted by Webby
                Speed is not a bestowed gift with some folks.
                That might explain why their SSL cert for secure.splitinfinity.com has been expired since 08/28/2005.
                Perfect Gonzo

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                • Biggy2
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 1821

                  #558
                  see sig.

                  am i too late?

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                  • swami
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 1989

                    #559
                    Originally posted by spooky181
                    All I know is Chris and Split are very professional to deal with. When I moved to them I had a financial issue with them that totalled pretty close to 8k. As soon as Chris realized where the issue stood I got my full refund back and am still hosted with them..... Couldn't imagine Chris shafting anyone, I would say there is a lot more to this than meets the eye...
                    I don't believe you.

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                    • ricks
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 924

                      #560
                      Originally posted by sonofsam
                      1.) 8k is not peanuts to everyone

                      2.) unprofessional spamming? what does that make split infinity, since they knew what he was doing?

                      3.) wrong business, go back to school? he is going back to school, but if he also is able to afford the cost of 20 servers, i think he is doing everything right

                      If $8k means anything to you, you definately are in the wrong business. You won't even be able to afford lawyers or anything when you need them.

                      You think SI would risk their entire operation to have some idiot bringing in 350 complaints per hour for a measely $8k?

                      bdjuf obviously has no clue what he's doing if he's bringing in that many complaints. It's not even worth discussing really. He is just looking more and more like a n00b idiot for bringing this shit to the board. If I was Chris I wouldn't even talk to him right now.
                      [QUOTE=DavieVegas]Now i apologize for people who I have scammed in the past or future.QUOTE]

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                      • SomeCreep
                        :glugglug
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 26118

                        #561
                        I read this whole fucking thread and it is still missing so many facts, that one can not make judgement on who is guilty of wrongful doing.

                        So were these servers used for email spamming? If so, then that's against SplitInifinity TOS/AUP, unless SplitInfinity agreed to let Bdjuff email spam on them, in which case Bdjuff would have to sign a contract stating so, or else SplitInfinity's orignal TOS/AUP would still apply. I highly doubt SplitInfinity would create a contract that allows Bdjuff to spam, in which case, all they would have is a verbal agreement, which means nothing in the eyes of the law.

                        For Bdjuff to demand a full refund of his money when he was email spamming on the servers, even saying he will take SplitInfinity to court is just foolish. IMO, that's like someone who sells dope saying, "If you dont pay me for all the dope I sold you, I will call the cops." However, neither Bdjuff or SplitInfinity has come out and said these servers were used for email spamming.

                        Bdjuff, if you're going to make this situation public, you should make all the facts known from the beginning, so people can make judgement based on the facts and not just speculation.
                        Last edited by SomeCreep; 12-23-2005, 02:21 AM.

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                        • sonofsam
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 18647

                          #562
                          Originally posted by ricks
                          If $8k means anything to you, you definately are in the wrong business. You won't even be able to afford lawyers or anything when you need them.
                          i think you are underestimating how many adult webmasters are under 10k/month
                          I like turtles.

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                          • JFK
                            FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 67369

                            #563
                            Quote:
                            Originally Posted by bdjuf
                            alright, on a more relevant note, Chris and I have come to a little agreement where he will wire me a "fair" amount after christmas as well as fax me proof of the fine he recieved.

                            hopefully this will be taken care of early next week and this thread will only be a memory!

                            I hope so as well

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                            • FabianC
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 1616

                              #564
                              So much for keeping shit on the DL .. headlines are going to read "Canadian Spammer and San Diego web host receive 15 years in prison" ...

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                              • Gasper

                                #565
                                Originally posted by FabianC
                                So much for keeping shit on the DL .. headlines are going to read "Canadian Spammer and San Diego web host receive 15 years in prison" ...
                                LoL good one

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                                • KingK7
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2002
                                  • 6372

                                  #566
                                  Hahaha 12 pages...

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                                  • darksoul
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2002
                                    • 4997

                                    #567
                                    So he used the servers for spamming and prolly it wasn't optin like talked with Split.
                                    What I don't get why it took so long to settle this.
                                    No matter how this ends theres no explanation for how Split handled the situation.
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                                    • Violetta
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                                      • Jul 2004
                                      • 28735

                                      #568
                                      Originally posted by SplitInfinity
                                      *DRINK*

                                      :-)

                                      Well, im off to bed.
                                      BDJUff, call me tommorrow 619-227-8845

                                      ttyl
                                      lol... is that a joke?
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                                      • darksoul
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2002
                                        • 4997

                                        #569
                                        Originally posted by Rockatansky
                                        lol... is that a joke?
                                        I guess 80+ calls aren't enough already.
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                                        • xlogger
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2004
                                          • 9507

                                          #570
                                          How come these type of problems never happens to me? O wait, thats right i dont let anyone bullshit me around. 72 hours mean fucking 72 hours, i wont fucking wait a second more for the servers to be online if i dont get what was promied to me. I cant fucking believe you waited this long.

                                          You need to be fucking aggressive to get shit done, not a pussy.
                                          Last edited by xlogger; 12-23-2005, 03:43 AM.

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                                          • spooky181
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 2951

                                            #571
                                            Originally posted by swami
                                            I don't believe you.
                                            Fair dinkum, why not...

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                                            • xlogger
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2004
                                              • 9507

                                              #572
                                              ok let me just say one more thing..

                                              Bdjuf, you need to grow some fucking balls.

                                              I seen some of your threads, you let every one walk all over you. Whats up with that shit man? If you are running a business you need some balls. If people think you are week, chances are you will get ripped because they know you are not going do shit about it. I still cannot believe you waited 5 fucking months for this.

                                              Ps: Actually something like this happened to me once. A guy who was a (unofficial) reseller for a hosting company sold me some servers. I cancelled after a month, however, he still kept using it and after 3 months the hosting company wanted to charge me $3k (because he disappeared). I didnt pay for shit! They called me nonstop at wanted to send a collection agency. I dint wait fucking 6 months like you did though, i called my dads lawyer and got things sellted the same week. I didnt loose a fucking penny. Dont let people walk all over you, never let that shit happen.
                                              Last edited by xlogger; 12-23-2005, 04:13 AM.

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                                              • Living For Today
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2002
                                                • 3970

                                                #573
                                                great thread. good read!

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                                                • Wiggles
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • May 2004
                                                  • 14423

                                                  #574
                                                  damn this is some good drama, best in along time.
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                                                  • circlekhabib
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                    • 490

                                                    #575
                                                    I am pleased to say I have turned a many a spam email
                                                    originating from split over to the feds and spamcop.
                                                    what we have here is basically scammers bitching about
                                                    getting scammed by scammers
                                                    which
                                                    is what 99% of gfy is comprised of.
                                                    classic thread indeed

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                                                    • More Booze
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                      • 5116

                                                      #576
                                                      fucking spammer, I hope you don't get one cent back

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                                                      • justsexxx
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                        • 13723

                                                        #577
                                                        Originally posted by SplitInfinity
                                                        Wow, all this attention. I feel loved.
                                                        :-)

                                                        Yep, BDJUff and I have an issue. His post is 100% right.
                                                        I fucked him over.

                                                        Now with that said..... one must ask "why"?

                                                        I feel that both of us suffered damage in the transaction.
                                                        However, there is alot to this "drama" that I will not post for the simple reason
                                                        that I do not want to make matters worse for some parties involved.

                                                        This thread is fun by the way. I love you all, even the doubters.

                                                        This board would not be GFY without drama. I am happy to contribute.

                                                        If BDJuFF wants to solve this matter he must come to me.
                                                        I will pay for the ticket for him to fly here. I will not discuss this matter
                                                        outside of a face to face professional meeting between two businessmen.

                                                        Note: Alot of this would have been avoided if your partner didnt have such a big mouth. Threatining people is not a good business tactic. It surely didnt give him what
                                                        he wanted, did it?

                                                        Ill negotiate, its only fair to do so, but note this: I will not be threatened, if that happnens again, I will let this go to court. We can keep it out if you like and maintain
                                                        friendship, which, I always have liked you personally..... its someone else I have a
                                                        hard time dealing with.

                                                        Nevertheless, say what you like just spell my name right. :-)

                                                        Lets sort it out. Can you do lunch after Christmas Break?
                                                        No drama, we just need to sort this out. I want fair, not to defeat you.

                                                        I suppose we could do this over the phone.... I just would be limited on what I am
                                                        willing to discuss in that case. More professional to meet in person and negotiate.
                                                        Ill show you my papers, you show me yours, all will me merry.

                                                        Peace out.

                                                        Anyone wanna chat about this? I am on ICQ, AIM....

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                                                        • webair
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                          • 8531

                                                          #578
                                                          Sheesh lotta drama here....

                                                          From past experience anyone coming aboard with 20 servers should be a semi red flag that they MAY be looking to spam =)) A bit of enquiry may have be in order prior to approving the account...With that said Bdjuff and his metro self has been hosting with us for a long time and we have honestly never received one spam complaint with regards to any of his accounts, great guy to work with actually. None the less the Split guys are good people I'm sure they will work this out professionally. Good luck to all involved....

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                                                          • sonofsam
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                            • 18647

                                                            #579
                                                            Originally posted by circlekhabib
                                                            I am pleased to say I have turned a many a spam email
                                                            originating from split over to the feds and spamcop.
                                                            what we have here is basically scammers bitching about
                                                            getting scammed by scammers
                                                            which
                                                            is what 99% of gfy is comprised of.
                                                            classic thread indeed

                                                            see sig
                                                            You my friend, are a fucking rat



                                                            here you go, i even hotlinked that pic from a .gov site... just for you
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                                                            • darksoul
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                              • 4997

                                                              #580
                                                              Originally posted by webair
                                                              Sheesh lotta drama here....

                                                              From past experience anyone coming aboard with 20 servers should be a semi red flag that they MAY be looking to spam =)) A bit of enquiry may have be in order prior to approving the account...With that said Bdjuff and his metro self has been hosting with us for a long time and we have honestly never received one spam complaint with regards to any of his accounts, great guy to work with actually. None the less the Split guys are good people I'm sure they will work this out professionally. Good luck to all involved....

                                                              See ya all in Vegas Baby!!!

                                                              I think its a bit too late for the "professionally" part.
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                                                              • Deputy Chief Command
                                                                Deputy Chief Command
                                                                • Nov 2005
                                                                • 4482

                                                                #581

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                                                                • Basic_man
                                                                  Programming King Pin
                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                  • 27360

                                                                  #582
                                                                  I'm bumping this thread for bdjuf, because Splitinfinity fuckin' suck on this one.. host of the year.. MY ASS !

                                                                  Hope you can get your money back bro
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                                                                  • adultchica
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Sep 2005
                                                                    • 5141

                                                                    #583
                                                                    I think they should pay you back all of the money, and if they did get fined where is the proof? If they got fined and prove it, I do think it would be cool of you to take less the fine.

                                                                    GOod luck bdjuf

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                                                                    • Violetta
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                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                      • 28735

                                                                      #584
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                                                                      • RawAlex
                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                        • 9465

                                                                        #585
                                                                        Originally posted by Tempest
                                                                        Maybe you should actually read before you post... The customer said they didn't use the servers (only 4 that they knew were online) other than to update the OS... SI said that what the customer said was 100% correct... Therefore, the customer wasn't spamming... SI also dropped a little something else later than someone may have hacked into those servers and were the ones spamming.
                                                                        Tempest, you should read a little more closely too: Those same boxes that apprently did nothing also generated 350 spam complaints in less than 2 hours - and appear to have gotten an entire class C tossed as a result.

                                                                        Please read all the posts, not just the ones from people you like.

                                                                        Alex

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                                                                        • sonofsam
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Dec 2004
                                                                          • 18647

                                                                          #586
                                                                          the spam complaints are irrelevant.... splitinfinity knew what he was doing, so they should have made sure they would be able to handle the complaints that went along with it
                                                                          I like turtles.

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                                                                          • Juicy D. Links
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                            • 122992

                                                                            #587
                                                                            wow this is mad views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                                                                            • KRL
                                                                              Entrepreneur
                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                              • 31429

                                                                              #588
                                                                              All this spent energy and taking so many people's valuable productive time away from their business tasks to read endless pages on a thread about a server bill dispute.

                                                                              Truly fucking sad. Life is so short folks. Move on . . .
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                                                                              • sonofsam
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Dec 2004
                                                                                • 18647

                                                                                #589
                                                                                Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                All this spent energy and taking so many people's valuable productive time away from their business tasks to read endless pages on a thread about a server bill dispute.

                                                                                Truly fucking sad. Life is so short folks. Move on . . .
                                                                                I'm sure you've read every page of this drama also
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                                                                                • gecko
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                                                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                                                  • 21846

                                                                                  #590
                                                                                  holy crap 12 pages?!?!?
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                                                                                  • Easton
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                                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                                    • 9825

                                                                                    #591
                                                                                    Originally posted by gecko
                                                                                    holy crap 12 pages?!?!?
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                                                                                    • WiredGuy
                                                                                      Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                      • 34515

                                                                                      #592
                                                                                      Wow, quite a bit of drama here this morning. I read thru bdjuf's story and Chris' response and I have to say the fact that Chris won't negotiate over the phone is rather disconcerning but I suppose after dealing with bdjuf's partner its plausible. Either way, if you're both in vegas it should be worth exploring having a sit down with each other to work this out. Hopefully you both can get this resolved.
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                                                                                      • pornstar2pac
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                                                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                                                        • 17380

                                                                                        #593
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                                                                                        • Abyss_Vee
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                                          • 5208

                                                                                          #594
                                                                                          I hate working with scumbags like that... makes you fuckin think twice before dealing with anyone unless you know them very well...

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                                                                                          • pocketkangaroo
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jan 2005
                                                                                            • 8452

                                                                                            #595
                                                                                            If $8k means anything to you, you definately are in the wrong business. You won't even be able to afford lawyers or anything when you need them.
                                                                                            I think the people who get to the point where $8k doesn't mean much didn't get to that point by letting people scam them out of $8k (not saying they did, just for the sake of argument). $8k is a lot of money to anyone and I couldn't imagine seeing anyone sit back and say "shucks" and move on.

                                                                                            I work and have worked mostly in mainstream with many large companies companies, including contract work for companies like Microsoft. They are very tough to deal with and they demand that they get what they pay for regardless of the cost/work. Try spending a few bucks on Google Adwords and giving them a bad credit card. They'll shit down your throat till they get it.

                                                                                            I just can't find one example of a succesful company that will throw thousands of dollars around and not care. Regardless of if you are a millionaire or not, $8k buys a lot of shit and is not something to take lightly.

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                                                                                            • pradaboy
                                                                                              sell me your banners
                                                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                                                              • 12931

                                                                                              #596
                                                                                              Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                                                              I think the people who get to the point where $8k doesn't mean much didn't get to that point by letting people scam them out of $8k (not saying they did, just for the sake of argument). $8k is a lot of money to anyone and I couldn't imagine seeing anyone sit back and say "shucks" and move on.

                                                                                              I work and have worked mostly in mainstream with many large companies companies, including contract work for companies like Microsoft. They are very tough to deal with and they demand that they get what they pay for regardless of the cost/work. Try spending a few bucks on Google Adwords and giving them a bad credit card. They'll shit down your throat till they get it.

                                                                                              I just can't find one example of a succesful company that will throw thousands of dollars around and not care. Regardless of if you are a millionaire or not, $8k buys a lot of shit and is not something to take lightly.
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                                                                                              • emthree
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                                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                                • 10816

                                                                                                #597
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                                                                                                • emthree
                                                                                                  Dialer Kingpin
                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                  • 10816

                                                                                                  #598
                                                                                                  I take it budjuf's friend is the cause of all of the problems here.
                                                                                                  Honestly, I think Split did the right thing. The way it's being dealth with is something else.

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                                                                                                  • emthree
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                                                                                                    • emthree
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