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  • dready
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2002
    • 5247
    #1

    Sponsors taking signups from warez sites (Nastydollars, Platinum Bucks)

    I noticed two sponsors taking signups from warez sites, just casually browsing today. They want you to sign up for the $4.95 trials, and then you get a pass to the warez site.

    Nasty Dollars:
    http://www.fullreleases.biz/index.php
    Goes to this page:
    http://www.xxx-site-reviews.com/specialdeals.php
    Affiliate ID: jakedyl

    Platinum Bucks
    http://www.warezquality.com/signup.html
    Affiliate ID: 235051, yesterday they were using 232624

    Just a heads up. I've messaged your affiliate managers with this info as well.
    ICQ: 91139591
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    • Brad Mitchell
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2001
      • 9813
      #2
      Good catch chris


      Brad
      President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
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        • mrkrabs
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2007
          • 567
          #3
          thread #363 about that this week! yawn!

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            • PR_Sebas
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2006
              • 2825
              #4
              im sure it will be taken care of now that you brought their attention to it

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                • mattz
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 7697
                  #5
                  many more than that

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                    • dready
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 5247
                      #6
                      No doubt there are tons, but the two sites above seem very prolific. They get tons of Google traffic and are part of pretty large networks. It would be interesting to know how many signups they're sending.
                      ICQ: 91139591

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                        • mrkrabs
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 567
                          #7
                          Originally posted by dready
                          No doubt there are tons, but the two sites above seem very prolific. They get tons of Google traffic and are part of pretty large networks. It would be interesting to know how many signups they're sending.
                          bump for this awesome thread

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                            • venus
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 3112
                              #8
                              Why were you surfing warez sites?
                              Something you needed to check out to see if you liked before buying?
                              Muscle/Fitness Adult Affiliate Program
                              Since 1997 www.venuscash.com

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                                • Rochard
                                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                  • Dec 2001
                                  • 75733
                                  #9
                                  No, this is not a good thread. Your making it look like these two companies are involved in this and that you are outing them. I'm guessing the truth is that these companies have thousands of affiliates, and they don't check where all of their traffic comes from.

                                  The proper thing to do would be to email them and ask them to drop that affiliate - not "out" them for something they knew nothing about.
                                  Herschel Savage
                                  Brooklyn, NY

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                                    • tony299
                                      lurker
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 57021
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Rochard
                                      No, this is not a good thread. Your making it look like these two companies are involved in this and that you are outing them. I'm guessing the truth is that these companies have thousands of affiliates, and they don't check where all of their traffic comes from.

                                      The proper thing to do would be to email them and ask them to drop that affiliate - not "out" them for something they knew nothing about.
                                      I agree with writing them but please stop the "they dont know were the traffic is coming from" line. Its insulting to ones intelligence and your better than that.

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                                        • haig
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2005
                                          • 317
                                          #11
                                          if they are making tons of signups sponsors will not close their accounts

                                          btw: do they really give access to archive when you signup for porn paysite
                                          Last edited by haig; 08-23-2007, 10:11 PM.

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                                            • DS250
                                              Registered User
                                              • May 2007
                                              • 411
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                              No, this is not a good thread. Your making it look like these two companies are involved in this and that you are outing them. I'm guessing the truth is that these companies have thousands of affiliates, and they don't check where all of their traffic comes from.

                                              The proper thing to do would be to email them and ask them to drop that affiliate - not "out" them for something they knew nothing about.
                                              I don't know about Platinum Bucks for sure, but you think Nasty Dollars doesn't take torrent traffic? Keep guessing, cause you have no concept of the truth.

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                                                • Humpy Leftnut
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Apr 2007
                                                  • 1292
                                                  #13
                                                  So where's your proof on me DS250? What's it been a week now, no news?
                                                  Humpy Leftnut - Pornsumer Reviews

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                                                    • Snake Doctor
                                                      I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                      • 13449
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                                      I agree with writing them but please stop the "they dont know were the traffic is coming from" line. Its insulting to ones intelligence and your better than that.
                                                      Companies like ND are doing over 1000 signups a day....do you really think they look at the referring urls for every one of them?

                                                      Fuck no....they check out accounts when there are flags for CC fraud and when people like the thread starter bring things like this to their attention.

                                                      I'm sure you know where all of your clicks and sales come from, but with an operation like theirs it's a whole different ballgame really.
                                                      sig too big

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                                                        • tony299
                                                          lurker
                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                          • 57021
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                          Companies like ND are doing over 1000 signups a day....do you really think they look at the referring urls for every one of them?

                                                          Fuck no....they check out accounts when there are flags for CC fraud and when people like the thread starter bring things like this to their attention.

                                                          I'm sure you know where all of your clicks and sales come from, but with an operation like theirs it's a whole different ballgame really.
                                                          You forget I worked for a publicly traded dot com before I worked for myself. All that was done was analyzing numbers,where did the traffic come from and the bigger the affiliate base the more important it is. You guys make me laugh,you really think these million dollar companies fly blind until there is a problem. Thats funny.
                                                          Last edited by tony286; 08-23-2007, 11:28 PM.

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                                                            • peterk
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2007
                                                              • 3529
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by dready
                                                              I noticed two sponsors taking signups from warez sites, just casually browsing today. They want you to sign up for the $4.95 trials, and then you get a pass to the warez site.

                                                              Nasty Dollars:
                                                              http://www.fullreleases.biz/index.php
                                                              Goes to this page:
                                                              http://www.xxx-site-reviews.com/specialdeals.php
                                                              Affiliate ID: jakedyl

                                                              Platinum Bucks
                                                              http://www.warezquality.com/signup.html
                                                              Affiliate ID: 235051, yesterday they were using 232624

                                                              Just a heads up. I've messaged your affiliate managers with this info as well.

                                                              I remember saw this strategy used by other websites too

                                                              Peter
                                                              Bogat mama ala cu loturi de trafic

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                                                                • madawgz
                                                                  8.8.8.8
                                                                  • Mar 2006
                                                                  • 30509
                                                                  #17
                                                                  TAEMDLRMSKRJIXMRLSMRJ.

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                                                                    • JD
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                      • 22651
                                                                      #18

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                                                                        • mrkrabs
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Mar 2007
                                                                          • 567
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                          No, this is not a good thread. Your making it look like these two companies are involved in this and that you are outing them. I'm guessing the truth is that these companies have thousands of affiliates, and they don't check where all of their traffic comes from.

                                                                          The proper thing to do would be to email them and ask them to drop that affiliate - not "out" them for something they knew nothing about.
                                                                          Agree man!!

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                                                                            • xclusive
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Apr 2004
                                                                              • 35218
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by madawgz
                                                                              http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=12981429


                                                                              I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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                                                                                • ServerGenius
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                  • 9377
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by xclusive
                                                                                  http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=12981429

                                                                                  You'd expect that the 100+ sales people get checked where there traffic
                                                                                  comes from wouldn't ya?
                                                                                  | http://www.sinnerscash.com/ | ICQ: 370820 | Skype: SinnersCash | AdultWhosWho |

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                                                                                    • AtlantisCash
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Dec 2005
                                                                                      • 3179
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by haig
                                                                                      if they are making tons of signups sponsors will not close their accounts

                                                                                      i agree and in my openeon they shouldn't even care where traffic comes from, if some bitchs can not control their content stolen, this is not sponsor's problem.

                                                                                      Traffic is still traffic no matter where it comes from (Except cp/rape/incest)
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                                                                                        • dready
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                          • 5247
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                          No, this is not a good thread. Your making it look like these two companies are involved in this and that you are outing them. I'm guessing the truth is that these companies have thousands of affiliates, and they don't check where all of their traffic comes from.

                                                                                          The proper thing to do would be to email them and ask them to drop that affiliate - not "out" them for something they knew nothing about.
                                                                                          I'm trying to do them a favor, not out them. I contacted them both before writing this thread. Nowhere did I say anything accusing or to suggest they were intentionally profiting off this.

                                                                                          These are both solid programs.
                                                                                          ICQ: 91139591

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                                                                                            • grumpy
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                              • 9870
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                              No, this is not a good thread. Your making it look like these two companies are involved in this and that you are outing them. I'm guessing the truth is that these companies have thousands of affiliates, and they don't check where all of their traffic comes from.

                                                                                              The proper thing to do would be to email them and ask them to drop that affiliate - not "out" them for something they knew nothing about.

                                                                                              fuck that, they know where the traffic is coming from. As long as no one complains they just collect the money. Havent you learned that the green set the rules?
                                                                                              Don't let greediness blur your vision | You gotta let some shit slide
                                                                                              icq - 441-456-888

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                                                                                                • xclusive
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                                                  • 35218
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Just to let ya all know, I am tracking down info on the other sites up there and not just after madawgz and his crew, It's business for me and it's time this bullshit stops. I'll have detailed reports on all this soon and when I find something I do report it to the affiliate program so that i'm sure of thier stance on the subject.

                                                                                                  I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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                                                                                                    • dready
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                      • 5247
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      The top one (that was using ND) just changed over to Hustler Cash today.

                                                                                                      http://c.fsx.com/c?z=40,96351,1,bl,b...om/index.phtml
                                                                                                      ICQ: 91139591

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                                                                                                        • dready
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                                          • 5247
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Here is a more complete list from http://www.xxx-site-reviews.com/

                                                                                                          Vivid Cash: http://track.vivid.com/vc/ppj/157/130123
                                                                                                          Hustler Cash: http://c.fsx.com/c?z=40,96351,1,bl,b...om/index.phtml
                                                                                                          Nasty Dollars: http://www.eurosexparties.com/main.htm?id=jakedyl
                                                                                                          Platinum Bucks: Already terminated.. nice work!
                                                                                                          ICQ: 91139591

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                                                                                                            • Fletch XXX
                                                                                                              GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                              • 60840
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Just what Nasty Dollars needs on $200 Sign Up Day

                                                                                                              Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site?

                                                                                                              Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

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                                                                                                                • dready
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                  • 5247
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                                                  Just what Nasty Dollars needs on $200 Sign Up Day
                                                                                                                  What they 'need' is more people to be proactive about shutting these scammers down. I've taken a good chunk out of my work day to personally contact all these programs about their bad affiliates. Shutting these guys down is going to do a lot more for the industry than a bonus day.
                                                                                                                  ICQ: 91139591

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                                                                                                                    • fuzebox
                                                                                                                      making it rain
                                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                      • 22353
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Have you verified that once you signup for the paysite trial you are given access to pirated software?

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                                                                                                                        • dready
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                          • 5247
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                                                          Have you verified that once you signup for the paysite trial you are given access to pirated software?
                                                                                                                          No. It's more than likely straight up fraud.
                                                                                                                          ICQ: 91139591

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                                                                                                                            • esnem
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by dready
                                                                                                                              Here is a more complete list from http://www.xxx-site-reviews.com/

                                                                                                                              Vivid Cash: http://track.vivid.com/vc/ppj/157/130123
                                                                                                                              Hustler Cash: http://c.fsx.com/c?z=40,96351,1,bl,b...om/index.phtml
                                                                                                                              Nasty Dollars: http://www.eurosexparties.com/main.htm?id=jakedyl
                                                                                                                              Platinum Bucks: Already terminated.. nice work!
                                                                                                                              We have already spoken to this affiliate to drop all torrent links. Not sure why we're still up on xxx-site-reviews.com, but the http://www.xxx-site-reviews.com/specialdeals.php page is where the torrent traffic comes from. In order to get there you need to create an account at fullreleases.com. As you can see, this is why it's somewhat complicated for sponsors to catch.

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                                                                                                                                • esnem
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  also keep in mind, xxx-site-reviews.com had been reviewed by our fraud coordinator. if you were reviewing for site compliance, there is not a single thing wrong with that page.

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                                                                                                                                    • Rochard
                                                                                                                                      Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 75733
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by grumpy
                                                                                                                                      fuck that, they know where the traffic is coming from. As long as no one complains they just collect the money. Havent you learned that the green set the rules?
                                                                                                                                      Bullshit.

                                                                                                                                      You think programs look at where all of their traffic is coming from?

                                                                                                                                      A program with ten thousand affilates cannot physically check all of the incoming links unless they have a staff of twenty people dedicated to looking at it. I've worked for programs that I have tried this.
                                                                                                                                      Herschel Savage
                                                                                                                                      Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                                                        • Klen
                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                          • 32234
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Btw program who support such thing must be realy stupid beacuse if people buy access they buy it beacuse they want warez password and not access to porn site and they will never upgrade to full membership and sponsor will lose money with every sale.

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                                                                                                                                            • fuzebox
                                                                                                                                              making it rain
                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 22353
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by dready
                                                                                                                                              No. It's more than likely straight up fraud.
                                                                                                                                              If these joins were "fraudulent" they probably wouldn't be converting to full and the programs would notice right away, don't you think?

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                                                                                                                                                • dready
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 5247
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by esnem
                                                                                                                                                  also keep in mind, xxx-site-reviews.com had been reviewed by our fraud coordinator. if you were reviewing for site compliance, there is not a single thing wrong with that page.
                                                                                                                                                  The thing is, all the links on that review page are in a database, and get rotated daily onto http://www.xxx-site-reviews.com/specialdeals.php

                                                                                                                                                  Yes, the index page may meet your compliance standards, but the same links are all over the site, where I'm sure they don't, because they are used to get warez passwords. Why would you tolerate this?
                                                                                                                                                  ICQ: 91139591

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                                                                                                                                                    • dready
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 5247
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Vivid Cash: Account Terminated.
                                                                                                                                                      Hustler Cash: Account Terminated.
                                                                                                                                                      Nasty Dollars: They're on it.
                                                                                                                                                      Platinum Bucks: Account Terminated.
                                                                                                                                                      ICQ: 91139591

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                                                                                                                                                        • Wizzo
                                                                                                                                                          2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2000
                                                                                                                                                          • 15224
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                                          You forget I worked for a publicly traded dot com before I worked for myself. All that was done was analyzing numbers,where did the traffic come from and the bigger the affiliate base the more important it is. You guys make me laugh,you really think these million dollar companies fly blind until there is a problem. Thats funny.
                                                                                                                                                          There's a BIG difference, NastyDollars probably makes as much profit as your publicially traded company with 1/100th of the staff...

                                                                                                                                                          I was actually curious what it would take for us to have every refferal over our 4 programs viewed daily and yesterday according to server stats we had roughly 842,000 different refferals...

                                                                                                                                                          So genuis how many new people do you think we need hire to view approx 842,000 different links every single day and we are nowhere near the size of ND/BB or AFF.. I would hate to see the number of refferals they have...
                                                                                                                                                          Looking for Opportunity!

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                                                                                                                                                            • Wizzo
                                                                                                                                                              2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2000
                                                                                                                                                              • 15224
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              BTW, my post above doesn't mean I condone this type of traffic, I just think some of you retards don't have clue how big some adult companies actually are...
                                                                                                                                                              Looking for Opportunity!

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                                                                                                                                                                • esnem
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by dready
                                                                                                                                                                  The thing is, all the links on that review page are in a database, and get rotated daily onto http://www.xxx-site-reviews.com/specialdeals.php

                                                                                                                                                                  Yes, the index page may meet your compliance standards, but the same links are all over the site, where I'm sure they don't, because they are used to get warez passwords. Why would you tolerate this?
                                                                                                                                                                  tracing traffic flows for each reffering URL is impossible.

                                                                                                                                                                  it's guys like you that point this stuff out to us.

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