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Originally posted by TheDoc
You guys are funny...
Per signup programs make more than $10 a signup after the payout.
Math is simple, we can use industry average numbers to do the math. This is done on 50 signups daily to a normal paysite.
-- 50 signups x 4.95 X 30 days = $7425
-- 1500 signups in a month at 35% trial to convert (525) = $20973
-- Out of 50 signups daily that is around 25000 uniques daily.
25,000 uniques daily will produce around 18000 people viewing the exit daily. Out of 18,000 1:1800 will signup for something.
10 signups X $35 = $3500
-- 1500 signups in a month will produce 450 cross sales at $15 each comes out to $6750
-- 1500 signups produces 90% active e-mails, emails are worth on average $20 per (on cc e-mails) so 1350 x $20 = $27000
Total with no recurring made the paysite owner earns..
$65648
The paysite owner paid out: $52500
Now, factors that earn the paysite owner more money are...
He probally get's some SE traffic, type in traffic, produces some of his own traffic, has recurring, 2% of all signups will forget, program errors will cause signup drops, not all paysites convert at 1:500 some do better some are a traffic drain, upsales in the members areas, opt in e-mails on the front of the paysites, ppc deals with very low signup rates and a good amount of other things.
Now, the fact is some paysites are under the 'average' ofcourse which means some do better than others. Yes it means some shave but while I think most don't.
BTW, this would be a successfull paysite... Earning an easy 100k+ after some recurring started to build in.
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Whoops.....
50 sign ups per day, $35 per sign up to affiliates = $1750 per day
$1750 x 30 = $52,500/mo to affiliates
Those 50 sign ups are 4.95 ea, so $247.50 (minus 12.5% processing fee, but we'll minus the fees out at the end)
trials are $7425/month
35% convert.. so 525 x 39.95 = $20973~
Exit consoles (your #'s): 10 per day, so 49.50 per day in trials
49.50 * 30 = $1485.00
35% convert, so 105 conversions/month at 39.95 = $4194.75
So, let's add up these numbers:
Per Month:
7425 (trials)
20973~ (conversions)
1485 (exit console trials)
4195~ (exit console conversions)
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34,078
- 4259.75 (average processing fee of 12.5%)-
+6500 (cross sales)
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36300~
36300~(Gross profit)
- 52,500 (to affiliates)
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-16,700 (Better hope the rebills come in with a net profit of negative $17k after the first month)
The per sign up game ain't easy.....that shit takes 3+ months to get your $ back and you're lucky to make $10.. for real.
And the reason I left out your email numbers is because they're totally unfounded. Emails are NOT worth $20/ea.. they are worth maybe $5 .. besides, mailing them kills retention... mailing cancelled ones is ok.. if they are worth $20 prove it.. I'd really like to know. I mail mine to pre-populated sign up forms where they just have to validate their email address and still only make $5~ on avg