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  • V_RocKs
    Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
    • Nov 2003
    • 32451

    #51
    WOJ!!!!!!! This...

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    • Nifield
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2003
      • 1345

      #52
      Originally posted by hjnet
      Calm down a bit Reilly, everybody was treated quite fair in this thread, so there's no need to start some mud-wrestling just because you want to sell a copy of DS. You know quite well that's not true
      I'm not trying to start any mud wrestling dude, this was one of the main reasons i originally decided to create DS, because i used to use AS and was sick and tired of it being a guessing game whether a submit went through to certain sites. It would say it went through, even though sometimes it wouldnt.
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      • hjnet
        Confirmed User
        • May 2002
        • 3815

        #53
        Originally posted by Nifield
        I'm not trying to start any mud wrestling dude, this was one of the main reasons i originally decided to create DS, because i used to use AS and was sick and tired of it being a guessing game whether a submit went through to certain sites. It would say it went through, even though sometimes it wouldnt.

        That must have been in 2003 then, don't you think AS has improved a bit since then?

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        • Nifield
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2003
          • 1345

          #54
          actually someone just a few months ago had told me this was still the case.. shrug
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          • kenny
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2002
            • 7245

            #55
            Originally posted by hjnet
            tool, and it's the only one that can handle linklists to.

            This isn't true
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            • Harmon
              ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ)
              • Mar 2004
              • 20012

              #56
              Originally posted by Franck
              5 sales per day per gallery with their dbase untouched by you?

              BS.
              Hey, I'm totally not trying to troll your thread man, but 5 sales is definitely possible with the stock database (unless something has changed within the last 2 motnhs or so from when I last used it... I let my subsciption expire due to current projects).

              I am going to go ahead and order me up a one month subby to CS and show you what I mean. I will post the galleries submitted along with the stats. Just give me through the weekend and let me get my ducks in a row and make time for this. Should actually be fun... no partner accounts will be used... just the stock database... deal?
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              • Dirty F
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jul 2001
                • 59204

                #57
                Originally posted by Harmon
                Hey, I'm totally not trying to troll your thread man, but 5 sales is definitely possible with the stock database (unless something has changed within the last 2 motnhs or so from when I last used it... I let my subsciption expire due to current projects).

                I am going to go ahead and order me up a one month subby to CS and show you what I mean. I will post the galleries submitted along with the stats. Just give me through the weekend and let me get my ducks in a row and make time for this. Should actually be fun... no partner accounts will be used... just the stock database... deal?

                Aight, cant wait to see it

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                • Dirty F
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 59204

                  #58
                  Ok ok, Dreamsubmitter isnt THAT hard to understand. Just compared to CS it is way more complicated.

                  My question to Nifield. All those options you dont want to talk about here. What exactly are they good for. I can do basically anything i need to submit using CS. I mean its not rocket science. You can only manage lists and submit to tgps in a few ways. I mean exactly how much tools do you need for that. CS does it all and i honestly dont have a clue what else i need.

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                  • Harmon
                    ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ)
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 20012

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Franck
                    Aight, cant wait to see it
                    woo hoo!
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                    • sfera
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 8597

                      #60
                      damnit where was this 3 years ago !!

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                      • Nifield
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1345

                        #61
                        Originally posted by Franck
                        Ok ok, Dreamsubmitter isnt THAT hard to understand. Just compared to CS it is way more complicated.

                        My question to Nifield. All those options you dont want to talk about here. What exactly are they good for. I can do basically anything i need to submit using CS. I mean its not rocket science. You can only manage lists and submit to tgps in a few ways. I mean exactly how much tools do you need for that. CS does it all and i honestly dont have a clue what else i need.
                        well, basicly functions that allow you to customize what sites get and what sites dont get and maximize the profit and traffic from all of it. Also dreamsubmitters error checking is second to none. But like i said, id rather just do a 1 on 1 walkthrough with you, and show you as we go so you can see for yourself.

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                        • Dirty F
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 59204

                          #62
                          Originally posted by Nifield
                          well, basicly functions that allow you to customize what sites get and what sites dont get and maximize the profit and traffic from all of it. Also dreamsubmitters error checking is second to none. But like i said, id rather just do a 1 on 1 walkthrough with you, and show you as we go so you can see for yourself.


                          Keep in mind that im totally not bashing your product. Its an awesome product. Im just saying it might be a bit over the top where its not needed. But still i can recommend it to people who want TOTAL SUPER UBER control over everything in detail. Personally i dont really see the point since most stuff can be done without.

                          And once again your customer support is so good i feel bad not using your product

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                          • Tapaz
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 1745

                            #63
                            we should really have some pratict example here SLURP! Like a gallery submision and related results only with original database.. some one can do it?

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                            • shuki
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 3070

                              #64
                              Originally posted by Tapaz
                              we should really have some pratict example here SLURP! Like a gallery submision and related results only with original database.. some one can do it?
                              That is a cool idea.
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                              • Tapaz
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 1745

                                #65
                                yeah a comparation would be huge

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                                • Jarmusch
                                   
                                  • May 2003
                                  • 12479

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by Harmon
                                  I am going to go ahead and order me up a one month subby to CS and show you what I mean. I will post the galleries submitted along with the stats. Just give me through the weekend and let me get my ducks in a row and make time for this. Should actually be fun... no partner accounts will be used... just the stock database... deal?
                                  I wouldn't do that if I were you. You seem to have your gallery building technique down, post them here and watch them get stolen by lazy fucktards.

                                  BTW, I believe 5 sales a day are very possible with the stock CS database. There's no such thing as shitty traffic if you know what you're doing.

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                                  • Ace_luffy
                                    www.creationcrew.com
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 12167

                                    #67
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                                    • Basic_man
                                      Programming King Pin
                                      • Oct 2003
                                      • 27360

                                      #68
                                      Why not use Advanced Submitter? :D
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                                      • Doctor Dre
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 51692

                                        #69
                                        Nifield you almost got me sold ... I might try this now
                                        Originally posted by rayadp05
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                                        • JD
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Sep 2003
                                          • 22651

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by Basic_man
                                          Why not use Advanced Submitter? :D
                                          I'd like to hear why also

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                                          • Babagirls
                                            Text Writer
                                            • Feb 2001
                                            • 18812

                                            #71

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                                            • Marshal
                                              Biz Dev and SEO
                                              • Jun 2005
                                              • 15226

                                              #72
                                              I'm familiar with Chameleon, though those two has increased features... ;)
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                                              • hjnet
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • May 2002
                                                • 3815

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by Harmon
                                                Hey, I'm totally not trying to troll your thread man, but 5 sales is definitely possible with the stock database (unless something has changed within the last 2 motnhs or so from when I last used it... I let my subsciption expire due to current projects).

                                                I am going to go ahead and order me up a one month subby to CS and show you what I mean. I will post the galleries submitted along with the stats. Just give me through the weekend and let me get my ducks in a row and make time for this. Should actually be fun... no partner accounts will be used... just the stock database... deal?
                                                Now I'd like to see that too, Frank said 5 Sales per submitted gallery, and of course full sales where a CC is used (either Trials or monthly memberships), not some email sales etc.
                                                With an unedited stock CS database, without partner accounts or any paid spots/PAs, and without the unusual usage of traffic from sites you or some of your friends own (maybe they own a 1M TGP and give you top spots just for this competiton).

                                                So considering a month has 20 workdays, that should be easily 100 sales if you just submit 1 per day, or 200 if you submit 2 per day, etc.



                                                I say that's impossible with CS stock Database, most CS users that contact me are happy if they make 10 sales per month.

                                                And to make sure that you're not wasting your time, I'm willing to pay you $100 if you'd prove me wrong, and I'm sure some others would do the same

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                                                • hjnet
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2002
                                                  • 3815

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by Basic_man
                                                  Why not use Advanced Submitter? :D
                                                  As I said, in the end it's just a matter of personal preferences, AS and CS exist since 3.5 years, and DS since 2 years, and all of them are under constant development. So they're all good in what they've specialized on.

                                                  We could also discuss about "the best car", "the hottest babe", etc.

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                                                  • Violetta
                                                    Affiliate
                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                    • 28735

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Babagirls
                                                    that one needs an update!
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                                                    • Nifield
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                      • 1345

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by Franck
                                                      Keep in mind that im totally not bashing your product. Its an awesome product. Im just saying it might be a bit over the top where its not needed. But still i can recommend it to people who want TOTAL SUPER UBER control over everything in detail. Personally i dont really see the point since most stuff can be done without.

                                                      And once again your customer support is so good i feel bad not using your product
                                                      Thanks Franck, I appreciate those comments. We are on the verge of releasing version 2.0 which will win you over i believe
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                                                      • Nifield
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                        • 1345

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                        Nifield you almost got me sold ... I might try this now
                                                        Hi me up and I'll hook you up with a free subscription and teach you how to use the software. What more could you ask for
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                                                        • Nifield
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 1345

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by Basic_man
                                                          Why not use Advanced Submitter? :D
                                                          If you're using advanced submitter, try dream and you will be absolutely amazed.
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                                                          • shuki
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                            • 3070

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by Nifield
                                                            Hi me up and I'll hook you up with a free subscription and teach you how to use the software. What more could you ask for
                                                            Is this offer available for everyone? I am willing to pay and am more after the tutorial than the free ride.
                                                            Looking to buy established paysites contact me [email protected]

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                                                            • Tapaz
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jun 2005
                                                              • 1745

                                                              #80
                                                              some one have to made 5 sales STILL

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                                                              • dissipate
                                                                The Dirty Frenchman
                                                                • Nov 2005
                                                                • 8904

                                                                #81
                                                                Reilly gave me the walk through of dream submitter today, it was very helpfull. After seeing all the advanced features... many of which i'll admit CS has, i'm sold on dream submitter. It's template parsing is going to make my life 20 times easier without having to go through and hand edit html all day when i can update things with the click of a button. I'll be the first to admit the learning curve of DS is higher, its probly going to take me a few fucked-up submissions to get things tweaked to the way i need them, but I think im going to get butter results with a well maintained database. Submitting to the default database MGP's is just a good way to burn through 10GB a day in bandwith.

                                                                Just my
                                                                Last edited by dissipate; 12-15-2005, 05:22 PM.

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                                                                • Marshal
                                                                  Biz Dev and SEO
                                                                  • Jun 2005
                                                                  • 15226

                                                                  #82
                                                                  i've got 30 day trial with Dream Submitter, but i was not able to manage it... it is great, yet t too confusing! can someone make it more simple?
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                                                                  • Nifield
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                    • 1345

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by shuki
                                                                    Is this offer available for everyone? I am willing to pay and am more after the tutorial than the free ride.
                                                                    Yes this offer is open to anyone and everyone. Please hit me up in icq or email if interested:

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                                                                    reilly at dreamsubmitter dot com
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                                                                    • Nifield
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                      • 1345

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by nettrust
                                                                      i've got 30 day trial with Dream Submitter, but i was not able to manage it... it is great, yet t too confusing! can someone make it more simple?
                                                                      Please hit me up for a 1 on 1 walkthrough of the program, i can take you step by step through the program to teach you how to use it for free!
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                                                                      • Mighty Chin
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                        • 781

                                                                        #85
                                                                        There ya go Reilly!

                                                                        Truly DS is amazing and I don't even tap into all of its features and I'm impressed.
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                                                                        • Dirty F
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 59204

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Good thread!

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                                                                          • volante
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                            • 2940

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by Harmon
                                                                            Hey, I'm totally not trying to troll your thread man, but 5 sales is definitely possible with the stock database (unless something has changed within the last 2 motnhs or so from when I last used it... I let my subsciption expire due to current projects).

                                                                            I am going to go ahead and order me up a one month subby to CS and show you what I mean. I will post the galleries submitted along with the stats. Just give me through the weekend and let me get my ducks in a row and make time for this. Should actually be fun... no partner accounts will be used... just the stock database... deal?
                                                                            It's now three months later - what happened with this?

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                                                                            • da man
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Nov 2005
                                                                              • 2375

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Franck, thanks for great reading and being objective.
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                                                                              • Dirty F
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                • 59204

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by da man
                                                                                Franck, thanks for great reading and being objective.

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                                                                                • dissipate
                                                                                  The Dirty Frenchman
                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                  • 8904

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  I'm curious to see if harmon really tried to pull 5 sales a day with CS's default database. I'll have to admit that at first I agreed with Franck's original post in this thread - but then i took the time to learn DS and now I honestly can't see myself using anything else and getting the same results. It's still 90% about your databsae, which DS gives you a reason to keep clean and current, but the other 10% to me is customizing pages for certain TGP's and thier requirements. DS just keeps adding in new and better features every day and it's far and ahead better than anything else i've ever used.

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                                                                                  • SomeCreep
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                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                    • 26118

                                                                                    #91
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                                                                                    • Nifield
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                      • 1345

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by dissipate
                                                                                      I'm curious to see if harmon really tried to pull 5 sales a day with CS's default database. I'll have to admit that at first I agreed with Franck's original post in this thread - but then i took the time to learn DS and now I honestly can't see myself using anything else and getting the same results. It's still 90% about your databsae, which DS gives you a reason to keep clean and current, but the other 10% to me is customizing pages for certain TGP's and thier requirements. DS just keeps adding in new and better features every day and it's far and ahead better than anything else i've ever used.
                                                                                      Thanks for the kind words, we at DS try our best to come out with the most innovative ideas to keep submitters on the cutting edge with great features and technology!
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                                                                                      • tornell
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                                                        • 4235

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        If I making something I need great results and I have great result only with Chameleon's products .. Chameleon Submitter and Chameleon Partner Account Requester making for me nice money every month, Caribbean's house will be soon
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