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  • DateDoc
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    • Feb 2005
    • 14243

    #1

    Is this HD Camcorder any good?

    Just for personal use - http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.proc...urce=nsa&nsa=1
  • Andre
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    • Oct 2002
    • 1156

    #2
    http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...view-33048.htm

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    • pornguy
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      • Mar 2003
      • 62910

      #3
      I have heard they are pretty nice.
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      • DateDoc
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        • Feb 2005
        • 14243

        #4
        looks like B&H is cheaper Than JR http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...PAHDCSD1&Q=&O=

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        • Chris
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • May 2003
          • 27880

          #5
          i just dont see recording hd content to an SD card
          http://focuscamera.com/sc/froogle-le...&sid=625464321
          get that
          it is HD
          3CCD
          and has a 60 gig built in HD

          only thing i really hate about these HDD camera's is the storage of the videos after you want it off the camera
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          • DateDoc
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            • Feb 2005
            • 14243

            #6
            Originally posted by Chris
            i just dont see recording hd content to an SD card
            http://focuscamera.com/sc/froogle-le...&sid=625464321
            get that
            it is HD
            3CCD
            and has a 60 gig built in HD

            only thing i really hate about these HDD camera's is the storage of the videos after you want it off the camera
            hmmm, more than twice the price too!

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            • Chris
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • May 2003
              • 27880

              #7
              Originally posted by BusterPorn
              hmmm, more than twice the price too!
              but can you really see your self recording on an SD card? raw HD content is HUGEEEEEEEE you probably get 10-15 minutes and then gotta dump
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              • DateDoc
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                • Feb 2005
                • 14243

                #8
                Originally posted by Chris
                but can you really see your self recording on an SD card? raw HD content is HUGEEEEEEEE you probably get 10-15 minutes and then gotta dump
                1 hr record time on a 4GB card and lets remember I have taken 0 hours of video in my life so far!! :P

                "Panasonic included Optical Image Stabilization and takes advantage of SDHC memory card technology to give you the ability to capture up to one hour of 1080i on a 4GB SDHC card (included)."
                Last edited by DateDoc; 08-13-2007, 10:30 AM.

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                • Chris
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • May 2003
                  • 27880

                  #9
                  may i ask why you want the HD for personal use?
                  i would think a basic 3c camera would work perfectly and have flawless video
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                  • Chris
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • May 2003
                    • 27880

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BusterPorn
                    1 hr record time on a 4GB card and lets remember I have taken 0 hours of video in my life so far!! :P

                    "Panasonic included Optical Image Stabilization and takes advantage of SDHC memory card technology to give you the ability to capture up to one hour of 1080i on a 4GB SDHC card (included)."
                    up to 1 hour
                    more than likely on the lowest quality setting ;)
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                    • TubeTitans_SusieQ
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                      • May 2007
                      • 3884

                      #11
                      i'd buy it! it looks cute...





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                      • DateDoc
                        Outside looking in.
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 14243

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Chris
                        may i ask why you want the HD for personal use?
                        i would think a basic 3c camera would work perfectly and have flawless video
                        because if I am going to buy a camera I will keep it for a few years so I might as well get HD.

                        Originally posted by Chris
                        up to 1 hour
                        more than likely on the lowest quality setting ;)
                        1 hr of 1080i

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                        • DateDoc
                          Outside looking in.
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 14243

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ADL_SusieQ
                          i'd buy it! it looks cute...
                          too funny

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                          • Chris
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                            • May 2003
                            • 27880

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BusterPorn
                            because if I am going to buy a camera I will keep it for a few years so I might as well get HD.



                            1 hr of 1080i
                            google "3ccd vs HD"
                            and see what others think
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                            • Tat2Jr
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                              • Feb 2001
                              • 4882

                              #15
                              I have that camera, and actually shoot content on it. Great for web "HD", and downconverting to DVD. The 720p WMVs look awesome. With the 4GB card included you get about 40 minutes of content shot in the highest quality. Haven't tried any other setttings then highest. I've got an 8 GB card, and an extra battery. 80 minutes of video (highest quality). Battery only lasts about 40 minutes, so plan on an extra.

                              One warning. AVCHD can be a BITCH to edit. I had to dump Premiere and get Ulead Video Studio 11+ to editi these. Work arounds and stuff, but I've got it down now. Just know that your normal editing workflow will most likely not work.
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                              • Chris
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                                • May 2003
                                • 27880

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Tat2Jr
                                I have that camera, and actually shoot content on it. Great for web "HD", and downconverting to DVD. The 720p WMVs look awesome. With the 4GB card included you get about 40 minutes of content shot in the highest quality. Haven't tried any other setttings then highest. I've got an 8 GB card, and an extra battery. 80 minutes of video (highest quality). Battery only lasts about 40 minutes, so plan on an extra.

                                One warning. AVCHD can be a BITCH to edit. I had to dump Premiere and get Ulead Video Studio 11+ to editi these. Work arounds and stuff, but I've got it down now. Just know that your normal editing workflow will most likely not work.
                                i just bought Ulead Video Studio 11 Plus last night .. great easy to use software only learning curve i am facing coming from sony vegas is cutting clips ;x

                                the start and stop buttons in the trim break down or wahtever is not my cup of tea .. i liked songs highlighing on the timelime and hiting del
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                                • Tat2Jr
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                                  • Feb 2001
                                  • 4882

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Chris
                                  i just bought Ulead Video Studio 11 Plus last night .. great easy to use software only learning curve i am facing coming from sony vegas is cutting clips ;x

                                  the start and stop buttons in the trim break down or wahtever is not my cup of tea .. i liked songs highlighing on the timelime and hiting del
                                  Never tried Vegas. Stuck with Premiere 6.5. Bought Premiere Pro 1.5 and fiddled with it for a couple weeks, but went back to 6.5 since I wasn't shooting in HD. Just a warning. Sony Vegas only supports Sony's version of AVCHD, not panasonic's or canon's version (yet).

                                  Video Studio is alright, but after using Premiere it feels like a toy (which it is).
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                                  • DateDoc
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                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 14243

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Tat2Jr
                                    I have that camera, and actually shoot content on it. Great for web "HD", and downconverting to DVD. The 720p WMVs look awesome. With the 4GB card included you get about 40 minutes of content shot in the highest quality. Haven't tried any other setttings then highest. I've got an 8 GB card, and an extra battery. 80 minutes of video (highest quality). Battery only lasts about 40 minutes, so plan on an extra.

                                    One warning. AVCHD can be a BITCH to edit. I had to dump Premiere and get Ulead Video Studio 11+ to editi these. Work arounds and stuff, but I've got it down now. Just know that your normal editing workflow will most likely not work.
                                    From what I understand I can edit it in imovie on the mac. Not sure if I will ever edit anything but who knows. This will be a new toy for me. Thanks for the tips on getting an extra battery.

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                                    • Tat2Jr
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2001
                                      • 4882

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ADL_SusieQ
                                      i'd buy it! it looks cute...
                                      It's very cute. Too cute. It's embarrassing shooting content with it. It's so tiny when it's on my pro tripod. But I can't argue with the content it shoots. My VX2100 is going to be put up for sale soon I think.
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                                      • crockett
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                                        • May 2003
                                        • 76818

                                        #20
                                        Try this one, it's a little more but much better..

                                        http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1991067,00.asp

                                        records to minDV's as well.

                                        I know of at least one program that shoots their HD video with it.
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                                        • DateDoc
                                          Outside looking in.
                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 14243

                                          #21
                                          I ordered the Panasonic. It will be here Weds or Thurs (probably Thurs as it is 3PM in NY).

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                                          • aico
                                            Moo Moo Cow
                                            • Mar 2004
                                            • 14748

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by BusterPorn
                                            because if I am going to buy a camera I will keep it for a few years so I might as well get HD.



                                            1 hr of 1080i
                                            There is no way you will get 1 hour of HDV on 4gigs..

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                                            • DateDoc
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                                              • Feb 2005
                                              • 14243

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by aico
                                              There is no way you will get 1 hour of HDV on 4gigs..
                                              Are you sure? Tat2Jr has the cam and gets 40 mins on a 4GB card using the highest quality. Lower setting will record more......

                                              Originally posted by Tat2Jr
                                              With the 4GB card included you get about 40 minutes of content shot in the highest quality.

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                                              • candyflip
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                                                • Jul 2002
                                                • 43069

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by BusterPorn
                                                From what I understand I can edit it in imovie on the mac. Not sure if I will ever edit anything but who knows. This will be a new toy for me. Thanks for the tips on getting an extra battery.
                                                Yes, iMovie can handle HDV content no problem.

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                                                • aico
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                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                  • 14748

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by BusterPorn
                                                  Are you sure? Tat2Jr has the cam and gets 40 mins on a 4GB card using the highest quality. Lower setting will record more......
                                                  Anything is possible I guess, but they must be doing some sort of freaky compression on it.

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                                                  • venus
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                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                    • 3112

                                                    #26
                                                    Don't know about the camera you are looking at, I have the
                                                    Canon XH A1 and I dont know if I was just expecting to much or what, but I should have gone with the Canon XL2 (which I rented once and really liked its quality).
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                                                    • Penny24Seven
                                                      So Fucking What
                                                      • Jun 2007
                                                      • 6287

                                                      #27

                                                      get this one
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                                                      • Tat2Jr
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                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                        • 4882

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by aico
                                                        Anything is possible I guess, but they must be doing some sort of freaky compression on it.
                                                        You do get 40 mins. of "HD" on a 4GB card, and they DO use some sort of freaky compression on it. It's called AVCHD.
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                                                        • Steve Awesome
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                                                          • Jan 2007
                                                          • 1575

                                                          #29
                                                          AVHCD compression is O.K. but you will notice some compression artifacts if you have a highly complex moving subject on-screen.

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                                                          • Kevin Marx
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                                                            • Apr 2007
                                                            • 1888

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by venus
                                                            Don't know about the camera you are looking at, I have the
                                                            Canon XH A1 and I dont know if I was just expecting to much or what, but I should have gone with the Canon XL2 (which I rented once and really liked its quality).
                                                            I had a Canon XL2 and it was a heavy bastard.... I shoot with a GL2 now and get very comparable results.

                                                            I am looking at the HVX-200 as my next option.
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                                                            • Jimmy Rock
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                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                              • 3055

                                                              #31
                                                              Over priced if your paying 799.00 for it http://www.bhphotovideo.com/

                                                              http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...VCHD_3CCD.html
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                                                              • JuiceMonkey
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                                                                • Oct 2004
                                                                • 3581

                                                                #32
                                                                does anyone have any samples of the video quality on the Panasonic HDC-SD1?
                                                                I am interested in getting one my self...
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                                                                • Tat2Jr
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                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                  • 4882

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by JuiceMonkey
                                                                  does anyone have any samples of the video quality on the Panasonic HDC-SD1?
                                                                  I am interested in getting one my self...
                                                                  I do. Will hit you up on ICQ.
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                                                                  • DateDoc
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                                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                                    • 14243

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Jimmy Rock
                                                                    I bought it from B&H

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                                                                    • DateDoc
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                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                      • 14243

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Tat2Jr
                                                                      I do. Will hit you up on ICQ.
                                                                      The video you showed me was crystal clear.

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