What states do NOT allow Atheists to hold public office?

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  • fuzzylogic
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2004
    • 4796

    #1

    What states do NOT allow Atheists to hold public office?

    anyone know or
    know where to find this out?

    thx
  • sailfish
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2006
    • 135

    #2
    First State I would research is Utah

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    • fuzzylogic
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2004
      • 4796

      #3
      Originally posted by sailfish
      First State I would research is Utah
      nope, UT is not one of them. these are the states: AR, MA, MD, NC, PA, SC and TN


      here is the info:


      source: http://www.religioustolerance.org/texas.htm

      quote:

      The Bill of Rights of the Texas Constitution (Article I, Section 4) allows people to be excluded from holding office on religious grounds. An official may be "excluded from holding office" if she/he does not "acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being."

      This form of religious intolerance is not limited to Texas. Seven other states (AR, MA, MD, NC, PA, SC and TN) all have similar exclusionary language included in their Bill of Rights, Declaration of Rights, or in the body of their constitutions.

      In a few states whose constitutions include the text of the oath of office, the candidate must swear an oath to God. Such an oath would prevent ethical non-theists from taking office. Of course, non-ethical non-theists would have no problems with such an oath.

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      • Pleasurepays
        BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
        • Aug 2002
        • 11913

        #4
        which states criminal courts or federal courts allow non-athiests to testify in a court of law?


        according to the pathetic reasoning of that article and this thread... the answer is 0

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        • fuzzylogic
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2004
          • 4796

          #5
          Originally posted by Pleasurepays
          which states criminal courts or federal courts allow non-athiests to testify in a court of law?


          according to the pathetic reasoning of that article and this thread... the answer is 0
          what does a belief in a supreme being have to do with a court of law?

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          • GatorB
            The Demon & 12clicks
            • Oct 2001
            • 18208

            #6
            Originally posted by fuzzylogic
            nope, UT is not one of them. these are the states: AR, MA, MD, NC, PA, SC and TN


            here is the info:


            source: http://www.religioustolerance.org/texas.htm

            quote:

            The Bill of Rights of the Texas Constitution (Article I, Section 4) allows people to be excluded from holding office on religious grounds. An official may be "excluded from holding office" if she/he does not "acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being."

            This form of religious intolerance is not limited to Texas. Seven other states (AR, MA, MD, NC, PA, SC and TN) all have similar exclusionary language included in their Bill of Rights, Declaration of Rights, or in the body of their constitutions.

            In a few states whose constitutions include the text of the oath of office, the candidate must swear an oath to God. Such an oath would prevent ethical non-theists from taking office. Of course, non-ethical non-theists would have no problems with such an oath.

            That's a violation of the 1st Amendment.

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            • aico
              Moo Moo Cow
              • Mar 2004
              • 14748

              #7
              Originally posted by fuzzylogic
              what does a belief in a supreme being have to do with a court of law?
              In order to testify you must swear to God with your hand on the Bible that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

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              • GatorB
                The Demon & 12clicks
                • Oct 2001
                • 18208

                #8
                Originally posted by aico
                In order to testify you must swear to God with your hand on the Bible that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
                You are allowed to affirm that you will tell the truth.

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                • fuzzylogic
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 4796

                  #9
                  Originally posted by aico
                  In order to testify you must swear to God with your hand on the Bible that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
                  Apparently i didn't phrase my question correctly. my bad. give me 10 minutes and i will try again.

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                  • gornyhuy
                    Chafed.
                    • May 2002
                    • 18041

                    #10
                    Holy Crap, that can't be true!?!!?

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                    • woj
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 47880

                      #11
                      That's pretty fucked up
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                      • CWeb
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                        • May 2007
                        • 245

                        #12
                        Obviously a belief in a higher being is a prerequistite to building roads, collecting sales taxes and balancing state budgets

                        Tho maybe the budget balancing relies on a higher being - depending *lol*

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                        • DaddyHalbucks
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                          • Feb 2004
                          • 18975

                          #13
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                          • Lance69
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                            • Jan 2005
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                            #14
                            Jesus Christ,

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                            • dav3
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                              • May 2007
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                              #15
                              So much for separation of church and state.
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                              • Snake Doctor
                                I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                • Mar 2001
                                • 13449

                                #16
                                How do they get around the "no religious test" to hold public office part of the constitution?
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                                • Libertine
                                  sex dwarf
                                  • May 2002
                                  • 17860

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Lenny2
                                  How do they get around the "no religious test" to hold public office part of the constitution?
                                  They're not asking for a specific religion - any religion will do. So, they're not checking whether you follow a specific religion.

                                  And yes, I know how twisted such "logic" is.
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                                  • Snake Doctor
                                    I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                    • Mar 2001
                                    • 13449

                                    #18
                                    Article VI

                                    All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

                                    This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any state to the Contrary notwithstanding.

                                    The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
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                                    • cashbot
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Apr 2007
                                      • 325

                                      #19
                                      I want you to lick my asscrack... Although I'gm sure you'd enjoy it

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                                      • cones
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Feb 2007
                                        • 571

                                        #20
                                        and they call it the land of the free

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                                        • cones
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Feb 2007
                                          • 571

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by cones
                                          and they call it the land of the free
                                          wheres daddy halbucks when I want to insult the fuck out of him

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                                          • cashbot
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Apr 2007
                                            • 325

                                            #22
                                            Very interesting post

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