what programs just suck money out of the industry and never give back

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • BV
    wtf
    • Sep 2001
    • 10914

    #101
    100 wasted contests

    Comment

    • Drake
      Hello world!
      • Mar 2003
      • 12508

      #102
      Originally posted by Sly
      Oh, and actually, David from PG posts here quite often and offers a plethora of knowledge on a regular basis. I'd much rather have his knowledge than a few free drinks at a loud party where I can't hear myself think. I should be buying him the drinks, rather.
      Agreed. Look, throwing a party or having contests on boards has nothing to do with 'giving back to the industry'. Programs do it for one reason only.... the hopes of getting more business. It's not altruistic, it's motivated by money, nothing more. Some programs throw parties for this reason, others use it toward their program. Neither is necessarily any "better", just different marketing strategies (ways of getting exposure for the program, as simple as that). It has nothing, I repeat nothing to do with giving back to the industry. If catering to 1/100000th of all the actual people that work in the industry is giving back to industry, well, we disagree on what it means to give back.
      Last edited by Drake; 12-13-2005, 07:50 PM.

      Comment

      • Fetish
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2005
        • 823

        #103
        Originally posted by JMan
        I have to agree with Roger, since we been doing these contest three revsharehosting and our chat seminars we are seeing both sponsors giving away thousands of dollars and affiliates benefitting from it all. To me it's like nurturing the industry... if you don't do squat you don't deserve squat.
        Well said

        Comment

        • slapass
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Nov 2002
          • 14625

          #104
          Fuck, i was posting how contests are dumb, and the whole time I was working on sending traffic to Pussycash on that $50k give away contest.

          Roger, ignore anything I said in here. I met the owner in LA at some function he was sponsoring and I mentioned how I love the new contest and the car one was cool. I had intended to do this work before but got busy and was just gettting to it now.

          I am dogging the whole sponsor and event and board whore contests when the whole time I was working to send traffic because of those two things....

          Comment

          • seeric
            ..........
            • Aug 2004
            • 41917

            #105
            Originally posted by Jim Hustler
            Mark can you design box covers???

            in his sleep.

            Comment

            • Drake
              Hello world!
              • Mar 2003
              • 12508

              #106
              Originally posted by slapass
              Fuck, i was posting how contests are dumb, and the whole time I was working on sending traffic to Pussycash on that $50k give away contest.

              Roger, ignore anything I said in here. I met the owner in LA at some function he was sponsoring and I mentioned how I love the new contest and the car one was cool. I had intended to do this work before but got busy and was just gettting to it now.

              I am dogging the whole sponsor and event and board whore contests when the whole time I was working to send traffic because of those two things....

              That's the desired effect. Contest = more business for sponsor. Sounds like it worked

              Comment

              • BlingDaddy
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2004
                • 6343

                #107
                Google "AdWords?" A fucking one way cash door? yea...... use AVN ADs.
                They love adult.
                Every Day... Bling Daddy's Masturbation Station!
                Bling Daddy's Masturbation Station!

                The Daily Bag of Douche - Humor at it's FINEST.

                Comment

                • BlingDaddy
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 6343

                  #108
                  Originally posted by slapass
                  Fuck, i was posting how contests are dumb, and the whole time I was working on sending traffic to Pussycash on that $50k give away contest.

                  Roger, ignore anything I said in here. I met the owner in LA at some function he was sponsoring and I mentioned how I love the new contest and the car one was cool. I had intended to do this work before but got busy and was just gettting to it now.

                  I am dogging the whole sponsor and event and board whore contests when the whole time I was working to send traffic because of those two things....

                  The contest is totally cool.... (not down on P Cash) great program, but one has to wonder where the cash for a boxter and a $50 G payout comes from.
                  Every Day... Bling Daddy's Masturbation Station!
                  Bling Daddy's Masturbation Station!

                  The Daily Bag of Douche - Humor at it's FINEST.

                  Comment

                  • AdultMegaCash
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 1017

                    #109
                    I give back to the community, but I do with my local one. I donate a lot of money to local homeless shelters, soup kitchens, childrens homes and etc.

                    If this makes me a bad person because I choose to do this then drop money to get people drunk so be it. If someone does not want to do business with me because I am not getting them drunk I can live with that.

                    Not bagging on anyone in particular, but for me if I have an extra 1-2-3-5-10k around I'd feel a lot better if it went to helping someone out and maybe changing a life over getting some people drunk who may not even know the name of my company.
                    Do not use Jay AKA Bannerdept.com Click HERE for reasons why!

                    Comment

                    • p1mpdogg
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 16714

                      #110
                      i pay my taxes. thats all i need todo.
                      A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

                      Comment

                      • BV
                        wtf
                        • Sep 2001
                        • 10914

                        #111
                        Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                        i pay my taxes. thats all i need todo.



                        Good Answer!

                        Comment

                        • bigdog
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 6964

                          #112
                          The acutal reality is that some sponsors need to spend more time on their programs then damn giveaways and sponsorships

                          Comment

                          • pornguy
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 62910

                            #113
                            Remember also that not all of the comapnies give things away in the open, and brag about it. Some send things to thier affiliates, and some dont.
                            PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic

                            AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online!
                            TChicks.com | Angeles Cid | Mariana Cordoba | MAILERS WELCOME!

                            Comment

                            • Lee
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 2977

                              #114
                              Ok, from my point of view the parties dont mean shit. I live in a remote part of the UK and in all likelihood will never travel to a party in the USA or wherever they are held (even Amsterdam is too far lol). The promos on boards dont mean shit as I dont live my life on them and am never quick enough to get post number 101 or whatever it is anyhow. So in that respect all the points you mentioned about giving back wont benefit me and I really dont see it as being as beneficial to the community as say the defendants in the Acacia saga.

                              All said and done though I will probably knock up some galleries for your program because the bonus structure you have implemented is a form of giving back (but to me). I will know after one or two submits if its worth going for the bigger bonus or whether that traffic would be better pointed towards my regular sponsors.

                              Comment

                              • Lee
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 2977

                                #115
                                Originally posted by pornguy
                                Remember also that not all of the comapnies give things away in the open, and brag about it. Some send things to thier affiliates, and some dont.
                                Yeah Ive always seemed to pick the ones that dont give out diddly

                                Comment

                                • pornpf69
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jun 2004
                                  • 15782

                                  #116
                                  would quite your job because your boss doesnt go to parties?

                                  Comment

                                  • Pipecrew
                                    Master of Gfy.com
                                    • Feb 2002
                                    • 14888

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by Sly
                                    Oh, and actually, David from PG posts here quite often and offers a plethora of knowledge on a regular basis. I'd much rather have his knowledge than a few free drinks at a loud party where I can't hear myself think. I should be buying him the drinks, rather.




                                    Yeah i got to meet up with the PG crew a while ago, great guys, they know the industry well, they started by running gay free sites.

                                    This whole thread is just a major backfire, if you read the whole thing you can see how many times it has been contradicted and just a publicity stunt "we convert better then them, let me prove it to you" blah blah. Let your product speak for you.

                                    Comment

                                    • David - PG
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2004
                                      • 767

                                      #118
                                      Why the hate Roger? Makes it so easy for great programs like yourself to take over the industry and gain market share.
                                      perfectgonzo.com

                                      Comment

                                      • bigdog
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 6964

                                        #119
                                        PG,ND and BangBros don't need to sponsor anything. The smart webmasters know what converts without all the bullshit

                                        Comment

                                        • David - PG
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2004
                                          • 767

                                          #120
                                          Holy, this thread even made it to a local newspaper here, it seems they just changed the subject title to something more appropiate:

                                          perfectgonzo.com

                                          Comment

                                          • andrej_NDC
                                            Registered User
                                            • May 2004
                                            • 7760

                                            #121
                                            someone give me back the 5 minutes I just wasted

                                            Comment

                                            • RogerV
                                              Banned!
                                              • Jul 2002
                                              • 12591

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by Lee
                                              Ok, from my point of view the parties dont mean shit. I live in a remote part of the UK and in all likelihood will never travel to a party in the USA or wherever they are held (even Amsterdam is too far lol). The promos on boards dont mean shit as I dont live my life on them and am never quick enough to get post number 101 or whatever it is anyhow. So in that respect all the points you mentioned about giving back wont benefit me and I really dont see it as being as beneficial to the community as say the defendants in the Acacia saga.

                                              All said and done though I will probably knock up some galleries for your program because the bonus structure you have implemented is a form of giving back (but to me). I will know after one or two submits if its worth going for the bigger bonus or whether that traffic would be better pointed towards my regular sponsors.
                                              Great post like I said before I am totally understanding now.. thanks for giving us a try.

                                              It wasnt really about me because my sponorships etc are small compaired to most. it was also about being part of the industy but i get your point.

                                              I'm sure those who defended the acacia saga didnt get much love from the community either

                                              Comment

                                              • RogerV
                                                Banned!
                                                • Jul 2002
                                                • 12591

                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by David - PG
                                                Why the hate Roger? Makes it so easy for great programs like yourself to take over the industry and gain market share.
                                                Its not about the hate trust me.. I dont really care this thread wasnt suppose to be about me. but many probably thought it was. when it got personal I responded that way.

                                                But now I understand Ive been wasting my time and money in many ways

                                                I'm not going to stop just slow it down alot.. and this thread was more for my entertainment than anything else but informative at the same time.

                                                I have seen the light

                                                Comment

                                                • RogerV
                                                  Banned!
                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                  • 12591

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by Pipecrew



                                                  Yeah i got to meet up with the PG crew a while ago, great guys, they know the industry well, they started by running gay free sites.

                                                  This whole thread is just a major backfire, if you read the whole thing you can see how many times it has been contradicted and just a publicity stunt "we convert better then them, let me prove it to you" blah blah. Let your product speak for you.

                                                  Trust me this did not backfire lets get real I wonder why you took it so personal to begin with? I never once mentioned any names

                                                  Comment

                                                  • David - PG
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                    • 767

                                                    #125
                                                    By the way, here is what happend when I asked pipecrew if he could send me a free IPod for Xmas



                                                    Originally posted by Pipecrew
                                                    perfectgonzo.com

                                                    Comment

                                                    • Mr. Jim
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                      • 4372

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                      Of course

                                                      Hit me up. No one is buying shit as they scramble for Internext and Chrismas.
                                                      can you call me in my office this morning...

                                                      Comment

                                                      • RogerV
                                                        Banned!
                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                        • 12591

                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by David - PG
                                                        By the way, here is what happend when I asked pipecrew if he could send me a free IPod for Xmas

                                                        when I asked them if there is any biz we can do I got the same result

                                                        Comment

                                                        • RogerV
                                                          Banned!
                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                          • 12591

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by chadglni
                                                          Umm sponsoring parties is the last thing most of us give a shit about. You do realize more webmasters never go to shows than those that do right?

                                                          www.clickcash.com and you couldn't make me quit promoting them, hell I'd say you couldn't pay enough for me to even consider it. ;)
                                                          when you can afford to go to a show I'm sure you will.
                                                          for now how much to whore our sig?

                                                          Comment

                                                          • bhutocracy
                                                            Not making A Comeback
                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                            • 10218

                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                            All of Them.

                                                            They make a brunt of the money and have the advantage concerning conversions and payouts. They tend to have Ferrarri's, Lambo's and what the latest bragging gadget is as status symbols. While the ones that made them can barely feed themselves.
                                                            The designers, the content producers and coders are all raped in the process.

                                                            Depressing?

                                                            But thats the reality.
                                                            ? When the designers, producers and coders put 100k on the table to gamble with then they can whinge about not getting high returns. It's risk/reward.. if your price is $600 per tour then there is no risk.. you get your $600. If you think thats unfair save up 50k or something and risk your lifesavings as an investment instead of being service based... It's not rape when you say "yes".

                                                            Theres also no reason that any of the service based guys can't get big by worrying about their own business and hiring people to work for them. You can't be a one or two man show and then complain about not feeding yourselves. Take a risk.. borrow some money.. hire some employees.. bring more money in.. use your skills in mainstream where they don't have access to cheap foreign labour blah blah.

                                                            Comment

                                                            • David - PG
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                              • 767

                                                              #130
                                                              Basically what Alien was saying was that everybody who is in a business for profit... is evil because they feed off of the slave work of others. Wait, that sounds familiar

                                                              perfectgonzo.com

                                                              Comment

                                                              • CamRabbit
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                • 577

                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by RogerV
                                                                what programs never give back by sponsoring party's at the shows or do contest on the boards etc.

                                                                what programs just take from the community and are not part of it or care to be?

                                                                Personally I would never do biz with them
                                                                You are an idiot.

                                                                Board contests are for broke sig whores and real webmasters don't give 2 shits about parties. They care about making money - not posing around juicylinks style.

                                                                Comment

                                                                Working...