Ccbill vs. Epoch - I made the test!

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  • RogerV
    Banned!
    • Jul 2002
    • 12591

    #51
    Originally posted by AmeliaG
    tpost form?
    yes it helps break things up so its not so overwhelming

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    • sinnerscorner
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2004
      • 194

      #52
      Originally posted by andrej_NDC

      Some ppl are telling me, they convert better with epoch sponsors, well, then try to count your clicks, because epoch doesnt and the sponsors can show you what they want...

      I do not understand why Epoch is not offering click through stats for affiliates. They had it in the past but for some reason it is not up and
      running at the moment. It is imho the most important part of this
      "game" to see where sales are coming from and which sites convert.

      Also I do not like the technical documentation they offer it is way to
      low level tech minded someone should rewrite it in a way ordinary webmasters can understand it (as it is now or as I know it only nerds can)

      Just my 2 cents.
      Last edited by sinnerscorner; 12-13-2005, 03:16 PM.
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      • pornguy
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Mar 2003
        • 62910

        #53
        All I can say is, that I am happy with ccbill.
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        • King Adam
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2003
          • 5408

          #54
          I did a similar test but I run my own pay sites so it wasn't through an affiliate. To be honest, we did more joins with Paycom but had better conversions with CCBill. I have no idea why.

          If you want to do it right, then promote sponsors that using cascading processing. Our program is in a rehad stage and we will be offering cascading very soon when we release our new version.

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          • bigdog
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2001
            • 6964

            #55
            good thread needs a bump

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            • andrej_NDC
              Registered User
              • May 2004
              • 7760

              #56
              Originally posted by sinnerscorner
              I do not understand why Epoch is not offering click through stats for affiliates. They had it in the past but for some reason it is not up and running at the moment. It is imho the most important part of this
              "game" to see where sales are coming from and which sites convert.
              if Im not mistaken, epoch is working on a new system right now, with all the features ccbill has...at least I hope they will have it all

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              • andrej_NDC
                Registered User
                • May 2004
                • 7760

                #57
                Originally posted by bigdog
                good thread needs a bump
                where have you been so long?

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                • andrej_NDC
                  Registered User
                  • May 2004
                  • 7760

                  #58
                  Originally posted by King Adam
                  I did a similar test but I run my own pay sites so it wasn't through an affiliate. To be honest, we did more joins with Paycom but had better conversions with CCBill. I have no idea why.
                  You have to explain this to me. If you send 20k hits to a paycom tour and 20k hits to a ccbill tour, how can be one tour better converting and still make less sales?

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                  • Theo
                    HAL 9000
                    • May 2001
                    • 34515

                    #59
                    Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                    You have to explain this to me. If you send 20k hits to a paycom tour and 20k hits to a ccbill tour, how can be one tour better converting and still make less sales?
                    King Adam, you have the whole 2006 to answer this lol

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                    • andi_germany
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 768

                      #60
                      In my experience epoch is to restrictive.

                      My perfectly good german cc is declined by Epoch by country!!!! CCBill takes it. Blocking Germany means blocking one of the highest markets after the US.
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                      • bigdog
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 6964

                        #61
                        Most large programs use paycom as primary. So regardless of what countries one processor accepts programs make more money using paycom.

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                        • andrej_NDC
                          Registered User
                          • May 2004
                          • 7760

                          #62
                          Originally posted by bigdog
                          Most large programs use paycom as primary. So regardless of what countries one processor accepts programs make more money using paycom.
                          large programs do bigger mistakes than this

                          maybe they prefer epoch because of pre-checked cross sales

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                          • bigdog
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 6964

                            #63
                            Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                            large programs do bigger mistakes than this

                            maybe they prefer epoch because of pre-checked cross sales
                            yep thats one of the reasons

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