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  • Nader
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    • Dec 2003
    • 5086

    #1

    Is it fair that usa killed 30k iraq's and after finding out that...

    they did not have any mass destruction weapons?

    Not counting all the young usa military soldiers that will not come home
    for the holidays.

    I'm not a political buff...but after reading that topic on the news today i wonder
    what is really going on...can someone inlight me?

    Here is what i think all this is about "OIL" that is being stolen every day.
  • StickyGreen
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    • Oct 2003
    • 13076

    #2
    i was watching abc nightly news tonight and they were showing how many aspects of iraqi's lives have dramatically improved since saddam was in power...

    just because everyone hates bush doesn't mean there isn't good coming from all of this...
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    • BoyAlley
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      • Nov 2004
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      #3
      Originally posted by NichePay_Nader
      Here is what i think all this is about "OIL" that is being stolen every day.
      YUP

      But don't forget, it's also about distracting the american people away from all of the other failures of this jackass.

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      • Nader
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        • Dec 2003
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        #4
        it's good to see all the opinions...not taking sides here but am sad for all
        the dead peeps.

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        • baddog
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          • Apr 2001
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          #5
          I have to ask if you have any idea what percentage of our oil comes from Iraq.

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          • PixeLs
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            #6
            A totalfailure since the means were never justified..

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            • Eric
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              • Dec 2000
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              #7
              You may want to look into the numbers a little more. 30k Iraqis dead doesn't mean the US killed them all.
              No One

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              • Doctor Dre
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                • Jan 2001
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                #8
                Originally posted by StickyGreen
                i was watching abc nightly news tonight and they were showing how many aspects of iraqi's lives have dramatically improved since saddam was in power...

                just because everyone hates bush doesn't mean there isn't good coming from all of this...
                Like everything else they toutch... will be a failure

                You and I know that if this keeps going the way it is right now, they'll loose the power and never be able to get it back. If you guys don't stay there to rebuild, and if the UN don't go help the US rebuild, this will turn into a massive sausage fest WWIII.

                We can say all we want about thoses poor people, there are some badass rich ass motherfuckers that can obviously push some big strings ... (Arabi Saudi)
                Last edited by Doctor Dre; 12-12-2005, 09:56 PM.
                Originally posted by rayadp05
                I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                • Alex
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                  • Jun 2004
                  • 10963

                  #9
                  This topic has been beaten to death here, mostly by you.

                  No one is limiting your freedom to opinion, but if you really feel strongly about this then do something. Posting on GFY doesnt mean shit.
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                  • Doctor Dre
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                    • Jan 2001
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                    #10
                    You know they liberated iraq but after so many years of opression, without doing something to hold the people united for years if not decades after, to give the habbit to people that you can do what you want without fear to get caught...

                    Saddam wasn't only the head of state, he was a fucking establishement... He had obviously a lot of people preaching for him and watching the people. You don't rule an empire like that with a weak hand and no view on the people.
                    Originally posted by rayadp05
                    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                    • baddog
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                      • Apr 2001
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Eric_aka_RedEyes
                      You may want to look into the numbers a little more. 30k Iraqis dead doesn't mean the US killed them all.

                      I would be willing to bet Iraqis have killed more Iraqis than we have. But there would be no fun in bitching about that.

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                      • BlueDesignStudios
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                        #12
                        it's ok - it's a sacrifice bush is willing to make in the name of freedom

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                        • S P A N N O W
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                          #13

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                          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                            #14
                            In summary...

                            America ( BUSH ) has killed more Iraqi's than Saddam.

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                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                #16
                                Some interesting reading on Desert Storm 1:
                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Desert_Storm

                                An estimated 90,000 Iraqi's died a year from Sanctions.

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                                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                  • Mar 2003
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                                  #17
                                  An Estimated 35,000 Iraqi's alone died in DS1.

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                                  • emthree
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                                    • Jun 2003
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                                    #18
                                    Iraq is not our fucking country. We have no right to invade their country, and kill their people.
                                    The US needs to get off this world domination shit.

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                                    • sumphatpimp
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                                      #19

                                      I am not a raghead.
                                      I just don't care.

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                                      • adultchica
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                                        #20
                                        I am sad for every death...but especially those of our soldiers

                                        Really hits close to home since my husband was in the military around the start of the war and my brother is in and over there right now...and a lot of my other family members are involved in this in some way.

                                        I was also talking to a friend of mine who just got back. The soldiers morale is not high. They are only doing their jobs.

                                        As long as the american people don't blame all this on our soldiers, and blame it on BUSH and BAD DECISIONS, then I have no beef with anyone except this administration for terrible judgement and even terrible lying.
                                        Last edited by adultchica; 12-13-2005, 02:06 AM.

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                                        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                          • Mar 2003
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                                          #21
                                          Now between the two Bushes added deaths per year...
                                          That family is likely responsible for the deaths of over 100K Iraqis if you count related deaths from Leukemia after DS 1, possible even 200K counting the post DS 1 years Plus the present.

                                          This might qualify as genecide.

                                          People wonder why Arab and Islamic Nations hate America.
                                          Not since Hitler has such a long term atrocity happened and the Bushes effects on Iraq span two generations.
                                          Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 12-13-2005, 02:09 AM.

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                                          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                            • Mar 2003
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                                            #22
                                            Its more than enough to make ya sick to yer stomach being an American and it must really suck to be those that support this genocide.
                                            Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 12-13-2005, 02:11 AM.

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                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                              • Mar 2003
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by adultchica
                                              I am sad for every death...but especially those of our soldiers

                                              Really hits close to home since my husband was in the military around the start of the war and my brother is in and over there right now...and a lot of my other family members are involved in this in some way.

                                              I was also talking to a friend of mine who just got back. The soldiers morale is not high. They are only doing their jobs.

                                              As long as the american people don't blame all this on our soldiers, and blame it on BUSH and BAD DECISIONS, then I have no beef with anyone except this administration for terrible judgement and even terrible lying.
                                              The thing is, Soldiers in Vietnam were disliked because they still faught a war that was wrong. They knew it. Just like American Soldiers today, they know they are fighting a war that is wrong. I do hope that Civilians do not blame them, but ultimatly it is the soldiers, the commanders on those fields that should question political authority and failing to do so forces them to fight for somthing they do not believe in.
                                              What sets in after that?
                                              The typical things that set in on Vietnam soldiers.

                                              GUILT.

                                              It is no ones "JOB" to murder people.

                                              Fight for you're home, fight for you're life but do not fight for living and call it a job.
                                              Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 12-13-2005, 02:19 AM.

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                                              • evanmorgan
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                                                • Aug 2004
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                                                #24
                                                right,

                                                soldiers join the army KNOWING that they might die...they made that choice, it aint conscription...It really annoys me when familys who have lost their sons/husbands totally change their stance on the Iraqi war...puppets

                                                Yeah! The US is killing civilians every day, great story. Although i bet more than half of these had weapons, remember, 100,000 iraqi northern guard went missing upon invasion. Basically, they went inside, put some jeans on, and hey presto, they were civilians.

                                                Plus, that oil arguement really doesnt wash, you want me (or baddog, by the sounds of it) then just ask, or better still. Explain why you think what you do...

                                                Just face it people...if bush went to africa, spent all his money on food, and hand fed every starving child, you would still find something wrong....

                                                People are more anti-Bush than anti-War, but they are just too stupid to see that.

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                                                • Gasper

                                                  #25
                                                  jesus .. wake up US guys .. of course he's there for the OIL! He wants to secure it from the crazy Iraq people so you can drive 50 miles to your jobs every day in your big SUVs. Stop bitching bout him, he's saving your fat ass

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                                                  • evanmorgan
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                    Not since Hitler has such a long term atrocity happened and the Bushes effects on Iraq span two generations.
                                                    okay you are officially an idiot...dont even try and compare the bush family to hitler...

                                                    Go research WW2, and come back
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                                                    • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by evanmorgan
                                                      okay you are officially an idiot...dont even try and compare the bush family to hitler...

                                                      Go research WW2, and come back
                                                      Well he is right up there with Milochosovich or however ya spell it.

                                                      Go ahead and deny the amount of death The Bush's have put on Iraq during there two generation reign.

                                                      Its called Denial.

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                                                      • evanmorgan
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                                                        • Aug 2004
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                        Well he is right up there with Milochosovich or however ya spell it.

                                                        Go ahead and deny the amount of death The Bush's have put on Iraq during there two generation reign.

                                                        Its called Denial.
                                                        I am not denying any official numbers, im just very dubious of the status of the people killed, civilians, nope!...

                                                        In my eyes, you were either for Saddams regime, or for invading and releasing the country from his grip. *Awaits, "but we went there looking for weapons of mass destruction" arguement, dont bother, thats irrelivent to what im saying....

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                                                        • Katrina
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                                                          #29
                                                          Its interesting....everyone seems to hate Bush...then WHO elected him second time? Americans got what they wanted.
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                                                          • emthree
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                                                            • Jun 2003
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                                                            #30
                                                            Too much shit going on in the world.
                                                            Especially in the past year. Things are not looking very good.

                                                            It's sad, very sad

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                                                            • Gasper

                                                              #31
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                                                              • theking
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                In summary...

                                                                America ( BUSH ) has killed more Iraqi's than Saddam.
                                                                You saying it...does not make it true...but feel free to continue on with your misinformation...you seen to have a talent for spewing misinformation.
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                                                                • nico-t
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                                                                  • Aug 2004
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Yes its obviously about oil and power in the middle east. Anyone who denies this is blind as fuck.

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                                                                  • theking
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                                                                    • Sep 2002
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by nico-t
                                                                    Yes its obviously about oil and power in the middle east. Anyone who denies this is blind as fuck.
                                                                    People with IQ's in the higher levels are not not blinded but people like you are.
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                                                                    • nico-t
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                                                                      • Aug 2004
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by theking
                                                                      People with IQ's in the higher levels are not not blinded but people like you are.
                                                                      Money makes the world go round, dont be naive.

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                                                                      • Fred Quimby
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                        Some interesting reading on Desert Storm 1:
                                                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Desert_Storm

                                                                        An estimated 90,000 Iraqi's died a year from Sanctions.
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                                                                        • Pete-KT
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                                                                          #37
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                                                                          • baddog
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                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                            • 107089

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                            Some interesting reading on Desert Storm 1:
                                                                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Desert_Storm

                                                                            An estimated 90,000 Iraqi's died a year from Sanctions.

                                                                            and that is our fault how?

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                                                                            • baddog
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                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                              • 107089

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                              An Estimated 35,000 Iraqi's alone died in DS1.

                                                                              Soldiers die in wars . . . that is what happens

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                                                                              • evanmorgan
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by nico-t
                                                                                Money makes the world go round, dont be naive.
                                                                                lol prove it, stop being a sheep and form your own opinions...
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                                                                                • evanmorgan
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Gasper
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                                                                                  • pornguy
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    It has been about oil all along.
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                                                                                    • evanmorgan
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by pornguy
                                                                                      It has been about oil all along.
                                                                                      wow youve definately changed my mind, i havent actually ever heard a shred of proof to suport this???
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                                                                                      • Screaming
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        i think its a control issue

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                                                                                        • Phoenix
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                                                                                          • Nov 2002
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          anyone who maintains that you sent soldiers to iraq and afganhistan for their own freedom is a bumbling idiot

                                                                                          open your eyes boys

                                                                                          the taliban rejected your pipeline proposal..when they were still in the air on the way h ome...that is when the plans to invade Iraqistan began

                                                                                          i just hope you never look north...as we will be ready....you can lie to your own people..but the people of the world know what you are up to
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                                                                                          • KingK7
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            I've just stopped caring... I couldnt care less if 5 million of these raghead motherfuckers die.

                                                                                            Thing is, you are stuck in that fucking shithole of a country. Your great grandson will be there for his tour of duty, getting shot at from all angles. There is no winning.

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                                                                                            • Phoenix
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              how many of you freedom loving americans hire mexicans as slave labour?
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                                                                                              • KingK7
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                The US just needs to start treating it for what it is; an occupation of hostile territory.
                                                                                                One soldier gets killed, you round up 20 random people off the street and shoot them.
                                                                                                THAT works.

                                                                                                NOT trying to teach monkeys how democracy works.

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                                                                                                • kenny
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  It doesn't help when the enemy uses civilians as fortification.
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                                                                                                  • nico-t
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                                                                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                                                                    • 29901

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by evanmorgan
                                                                                                    lol prove it, stop being a sheep and form your own opinions...
                                                                                                    exactly!

                                                                                                    and its already proven by mr bush himself

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