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I just want to be on the record saying Amy is pretty hot and seems bright as well. This doesn't mean that desperate people don't do desperate things... I don't know her at all. I think that from the perspective of IMLive when the checks were attempted to be passed they did the prudent thing - stop everything - and then figure things out later. My guess, there is a fraud here that was perpetrated by another party, probably. Obviously, the fraud is not on the part of IMlive as Amy is a revenue producing contractor - there would be less than zero motivation.
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Originally posted by CDSmith
This is the exact reason why ClickCash doesn't post on the boards. Imlive felt obligated to defend themselves here when this is not the time or place to discuss these matters. A professional response would have been something to the effect " This is an ongoing situation and will not be discused with anyone other then the parties involved muchless on a messageboard." or the best thing would have been to not reply at all.
People bait these companies into pissing matches all the time and most companies take the bait. In this case they not only took the bait but I think they hooked themselves as well.
It doesn't matter who started it, but who participates in it and comes out looking like the biggest fool.
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I can't say I disagree with what you're saying here. It is only natural to respond in these situations. In the first post ImLive was basically insulted and accused of wrongdoing... it is only natural for the owner to try to respond to that, at least to a small degree so as not to seem evasive or avoiding, or hiding. And the central point to the ImLive side IS the possible fraud/forgery, so how do you explain your side and not mentioning it?Originally posted by will76This is the exact reason why ClickCash doesn't post on the boards. Imlive felt obligated to defend themselves here when this is not the time or place to discuss these matters. A professional response would have been something to the effect " This is an ongoing situation and will not be discused with anyone other then the parties involved muchless on a messageboard." or the best thing would have been to not reply at all.
People bait these companies into pissing matches all the time and most companies take the bait. In this case they not only took the bait but I think they hooked themselves as well.
It doesn't matter who started it, but who participates in it and comes out looking like the biggest fool.
It's been a few weeks now, and both sides are wisely silent about the issue. I'm sure lawyers and the banks involved will figure out what really happened and the issue will be settled as all are eventually. Until then I suppose it's fun to speculate from the cheap seats. :D
For the record though, both sides brought things to the thread that they probably shouldn't have, not just ImLive.
Lastly, a few people on this thread (specifically posts #21, 160, and 182) taking opportunisitic cheap shots, making ridiculous comments and/or spamming your shit at the expense of the company being attacked is downright lowlife scum behavior.
Nothing else to say here except to wait to hear the outcome, if any.
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This is great drama. Eagerly awaiting outcome.26 + 6 = 1Comment
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Lol.. I rent because I just moved here to Las Vegas 2 months ago. I dont know if this is the place I want to be a year from now. I am just testing the waters.. i wasnt going to pay 400k for a house like this and not know if I am going to stayOriginally posted by will76
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Look at my previous statement about the renting.Originally posted by tony404
I have all Fed Ex records.
I have NOT been charged with anything as of yet.
The checks were cashed on Oct. 31st when I have 4 people and emails and IMs showing I was here.
As far as wanting the money right away, I dont think you realize how expensive it is being a girl ;) I put 1/2 of all checks into savings, then I go shopping and live large with the rest. I DO NOT dip into my savings.. so even if I have X amt of dollars in the bank and I have spent all my money from the checks, I will act like I am poor til my next check. Mind you I have spent 4000$ in one hour befor on lingerie and clothes online. It isnt hard to spend the money And can we say, WRITE OFF! Also, you have no idea how much my car, house, insurance, and all these bills are that I have. I also stopped working too much at ImLive because I was focusing on my site.. I didnt make 10,000 every month Ok there is my explanation :P
The offense took place almost a month ago. I am still waiting for an outcome too.
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Wondering the same thing.
How long to I wait before they realize I am not at fault and I can expect an apology.
How I am sure the story played out:
1. Amy moves to Vegas and cash 2 large checks from a check cashing place without being verified due to the trust the people have in me that Amy's checks are good.
2. Person(s) behind counter says, "Wow, she doesnt need to have the checks verified, let's make 2 checks in her name and say she was here to cash them." - Amy has many alibis for her wherabouts on day and hour checks were cashed.
3. Manager takes checks to bank and finds out the checks are counterfeit.
4. 2 people get fired for cashing a check that was obviously a forgery.
5. Amy gets blamed publicly without being prosecuted.
6. Amy waits for answer and apology.
** Yep.. that is where I am right now.Comment
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So what is the deal imlive? got me wonderingComment
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oh yah this thread...hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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I'm not reading this whole thread, so this may have been brought up...
Because of the differences in a real PC check to the forgeries (date, bank name, signature, etc...), I'd say whoever forged the check did not have an actual PC check to copy from. Anyone connected with PC in any way, employee or affiliate, would have had a real check to copy or alter. The information would have been identical.
My bet is that someone from the check cashing place had just enough information to believe they could make a check in Amy's name, and then send someone in with it to get the money.
Why were these check cashing employees fired? Maybe because video surveillance showed an improper procedure in cashing the check, thus leading them to believe these employees were in on it.Comment
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a good lawyer would make you some big $$$Originally posted by Amysworld
seems pretty clear to me..
They accused you of being a criminal on a forum where you make money thus damaging your rep. easy lawsuit.
I suggest they just pay you and make a public apology.hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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I guess you are not a criminal since you have obviously not been arressted for this... hmmm wonder if imlive has figured this one out or if they are still blamming you ?Originally posted by AmysworldICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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I have not filed a suit because I am so busy working on my site redesign and affiliate program.
Dont worry... Either I receive a public apology or ImLive deserves what is coming to them.Comment
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Wow...I must have missed all this. Sorry you're going through it, Amy. Good luck with it and your site...Comment
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Verdict?Comment
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can we see more pics please. I'm still not convincedTrump haters gonna hate. that's all they can doComment
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I'd sure like to see CDSmith back in here posting about three sides to every story and blah blah blah.Comment
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Don't hold your breathe ....Originally posted by chadglni
He is pretty good at the ¨cut and run¨ game.I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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I'm doing what a few of you knuckleheads SHOULD be doing.... and that's waiting to see what happens, rather than continuing to run the mouth about something none of us except those involved have first-hand knowledge about.Originally posted by chadglni
Cut and run? Are you delusional?Originally posted by directfiesta
Fiesta, you are one of the biggest twits on this board. At times you can really nail a point home, but on so many other occasions you drop the ball like a fumbling fool. Lovely how you conveniently show up on a thread and take a shot at me because you have nothing else to go with.
People, just let this one play out the way it's going to play out, how about that?
I stand by the previous comments I made in this thread, and have nothing more to say until there is some solid word on the outcome.
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Read the whole thread; you will see that I have posted in this thread a previous time... and what I wrote makes way more sense than all your rambling ( as you say and concede:Originally posted by CDSmith...rather than continuing to run the mouth
And to make my points, I do not need to call you names ... I leave that to the weak ...I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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Making a snide comment about someone such as "he's pretty good at the cut and run game" is tantamount to name calling.
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Ok so how long do I wait? This is my name that is being smeared through the mud on something I didnt do. Don't you think, if I had done this FELONY, they would have arrested me by now??? I have my lawyer on retainer. A great couple grand I had to spend.
Bottom line, I am the victim here.Comment
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Being the victim of fraud also makes ImLive a victim.Originally posted by Amysworld
I'd say that if what you say is true, then you're both victims, and I trust that the ImLive people will make things right if that is the case.
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Will76, don't you ever check your emails or ICQ? I was one of your first affiliate for teamclickcash, but since you switched to 2.0, the login doesn't work. I sent you email/icq about this 3-4 times in the last month or so. You don't answer."There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die." -Hunter S. ThompsonComment
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Amy lmk if you want to have Romance with meComment
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ImLive is NOT the victim here considering they never had to pay out the money when these checks were cashed. The check cashing place and my business are the victims here.Originally posted by CDSmithComment
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Forgery is a serious charge - wouldn't the police have contacted Amy by now if she were under investigation? In the meantime, you've got a thread on a public forum that implies she's guilty. Cashing large checks at a check cashing place instead of a bank (don't they take a %?) & renting a home while earning a good monthly income made me raise an eyebrow, though she had perfectly acceptable explanations later on in the thread. How many read that far?
Amy - I hope you can get this solved & your reputation cleared. You're new to the board & this has brought you a lot of attention, so hopefully you can spin it into a positive & memorable light.
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Bringing this to the board at this point suck.
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If a forgery was committed against ImLive then they certainly ARE one of the victims in this situation. The legal system in most civilized countries call it "being a victim of forgery"...Originally posted by Amysworld
So your statement is wrong.
Look, I'm not here to argue with you nor am I accusing you of wrongdoing. I came on this thread to see if I could advocate for everyone keeping their heads cool until this thing gets resolved. That's all. As anyone can see while reading back over this thread there are those on both sides with a lynch-mob mentality who thrive on drama and would love nothing more than to crucify either party before an actual verdict is in.Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!
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Let us not forget who started the thread. If anyone brought the issue to the board it was Amy.Originally posted by KCat
A small point, but one worth remembering.
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The bank didn't cash the fucking check. Nobody gives 2 shits what the legal system calls it, finding out somebody tried to pass bad checks is nowhere near being drug through the mud by a respected company.Originally posted by CDSmithComment
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the whole situation sounds scandalous to me...Comment
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If there was any evidence she was involved she'd have already been arrested. In the first post here they said they ASSUMED she was guilty which means exactly fuck all.Originally posted by KCatComment
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wtf?..............---
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I'll give you a recap. Amy posted she was suspended. ImLive responded that it was possible she committed fraud.Originally posted by nettrust
(All is well up to this point, assuming or saying possible is perfectly acceptable)
Then they screw up.
"She never earned the amounts that appeared on the forged checks on which her name appeared and that were cashed by HER (by her own written admission against interest - easily admissible in court actually - good thinking Amy"
You see, Amy never said she cashed the forged checks. She said she cashed the last two checks that were sent to her by ImLive. Nobody knows who tried to pass the bad checks.
And here it is again.
"Amy has not denied cashing the forged checks - quite the contrary. Based on her own written admissions in this posting including her claim to have earned the fraudulent payments, one can only reasonably conclude that Amy was the architect of the fraud (or at least a proud participant) which was attempted against us. Under local law forgery is a class D felony (NRS 205.090) for which the minimum period of incarceration is 1 year with a maximum period of 4 years (NRS 193.130) assuming we are talking only about one count and assuming there was no conspiracy underlying her actions. Amy, sometimes it's better to shut up and move on than to confess to a felony in public."
But she had denied cashing bad checks, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING!
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Enter CDSmith and a few dozen others to say because ImLive is a stand up company they'll wait to see what happens. Nevermind that they accused her of committing a crime without proof on a public forum and twisted it to appear she admitted to it.
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Chadgini -- I'm not sure what your own interest is here, but I can understand how you and others might want to sit here and argue with me day after day. But the fact is you'll get your answer when the answers are available and forthcoming, period. I am as much in the dark about this issue as you are, and the simple fact is I am not going to engage you in a needless debate. I believe I said it several days ago, that everything that needed to be said (and a good deal more) has been said.
Now it's time to wait, and see how things turn out.
As you let it slip above, ImLive IS a reputable company, so have a little trust that the people running things there will do what is right once the investigation is complete.
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Go Oakland!Comment
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I bet Enron was dubbed a reputable company too at one point in time.Comment
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Uncalled for.Originally posted by Amysworld
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Thought you were watching your game....
Uncalled for was being accused of fraud and...
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It wasn't a slip, I promote ImLive. My point is I can't stand people blindly approving of everything someone says because they happen to like them for whatever reason.Originally posted by CDSmithComment
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Originally posted by chadglniI'll give you a recap. Amy posted she was suspended. ImLive responded that it was possible she committed fraud.
(All is well up to this point, assuming or saying possible is perfectly acceptable)
Then they screw up.
"She never earned the amounts that appeared on the forged checks on which her name appeared and that were cashed by HER (by her own written admission against interest - easily admissible in court actually - good thinking Amy"
You see, Amy never said she cashed the forged checks. She said she cashed the last two checks that were sent to her by ImLive. Nobody knows who tried to pass the bad checks.
And here it is again.
"Amy has not denied cashing the forged checks - quite the contrary. Based on her own written admissions in this posting including her claim to have earned the fraudulent payments, one can only reasonably conclude that Amy was the architect of the fraud (or at least a proud participant) which was attempted against us. Under local law forgery is a class D felony (NRS 205.090) for which the minimum period of incarceration is 1 year with a maximum period of 4 years (NRS 193.130) assuming we are talking only about one count and assuming there was no conspiracy underlying her actions. Amy, sometimes it's better to shut up and move on than to confess to a felony in public."
But she had denied cashing bad checks, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING!
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Enter CDSmith and a few dozen others to say because ImLive is a stand up company they'll wait to see what happens. Nevermind that they accused her of committing a crime without proof on a public forum and twisted it to appear she admitted to it.
Very well put
I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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The drama continues!!!!1
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Gotta agree with ya, I usually agree with CD about 99% of the time, but I feel his sig got in the way of his objectivity on this one. ImLive would have been better off taking CD's wait and see approach rather than making some assertions early on that were obviously erroneous.Originally posted by chadglni
As far as being reputable, ImLive isn't exactly squeeky clean in the way they treat their camhosts, Amy is one of many that I've seen get bullied by them. Also, taking 65% of their tips is robbery, check and see how the other cam programs treat tips with their hosts."WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
Its crazy..."
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Originally posted by Amysworld
Screw apology. How can you be too busy to tell your current attorney to sue them. If you spent thousands dealing with this and on top of the damage they have done to you, i wouldn't give a shit about an apology I would want $$$$$$$$$$.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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