Originally Posted by chase

I shoot a fat model, which some would call ugly, I'm sure. Not outstandingly well, buy any means. In a lived-in family home. And I still have members after a 9 month hiatus.

I think there are many styles that *can* work, if done right. I don't think it's any producer's place to judge another's work. Aaron, you know I love you, baby, but you are coming off really aggressive and I can't figure out why. Then the nastiness on both ends got rolling. I don't see the point. So she's fat..by porn standards, anyway. So what? And yeah, the house is nasty, but I think it would be perfect for some artistic shoots, and I've seen amateur settings that look nearly as grungy. I dunno. I don't get the antagonism.