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Should affiliates get credited for UP-Sells?

11-23-2005, 11:02 AM

This is not a whinge - i'm simply posing the question.

Should an affiliate who sends signups to a program get credited when that member is upsold?

I'm not so much talking about whether or not the member is upsold to some other product etc etc (i understand that would be a nightmare). BUT if the sponsor upsells it's own product - signed content and what haveyou. Should the affiliate be credited for this?

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11-23-2005, 11:03 AM

Of course they should.
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11-23-2005, 11:04 AM

if it's revshare, yes

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11-23-2005, 11:04 AM

yes - we will give credit to our affiliates on this.. different % depending on what product it is
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11-23-2005, 11:05 AM

Revshare: Yes
PPS: No

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11-23-2005, 11:08 AM

sorry should have stated - yes for revshare

I agree 1000%

What sponsors do offer this?

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11-23-2005, 11:17 AM

yes. only 1 program taht i know of that gives me the upsells. (and its a pps sponsor) ;)

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11-23-2005, 11:17 AM

Since you stated it's revshare, yes, I agree they should.

Unfortunately, it seems a lot of sponsors are adding upsells on the tour itself that the affiliate gets no credit for :/
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11-23-2005, 11:18 AM

Why not PPS also?
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11-23-2005, 11:19 AM

Revshare, for sure.

A lot of affiliates would be pissed if they saw the member areas of some revshare sponsors.
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11-23-2005, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by Babagirls

yes. only 1 program taht i know of that gives me the upsells. (and its a pps sponsor) ;)

Lightspeedcash credits affiliates for upsells

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11-23-2005, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by BradM

Why not PPS also?

Supposedly the payouts for PPS takes into account upsells. Part of how you can get paid 35-40 bucks for a 4.99 membership. (other than pre-checked cross sales)
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11-23-2005, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by Lightspeed

Lightspeedcash credits affiliates for upsells

which upsells?
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11-23-2005, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by MattO

Supposedly the payouts for PPS takes into account upsells. Part of how you can get paid 35-40 bucks for a 4.99 membership. (other than pre-checked cross sales)

The law of averages says bullchit.
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11-23-2005, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by nudecanada

Revshare, for sure.

A lot of affiliates would be pissed if they saw the member areas of some revshare sponsors.

heh - why do you think i posed the qu?

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11-23-2005, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by Lightspeed

Lightspeedcash credits affiliates for upsells

theres another program other than you. so that makes it 2 pps sponsors that i now know of.

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11-23-2005, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by Quickdraw

Since you stated it's revshare, yes, I agree they should.

Unfortunately, it seems a lot of sponsors are adding upsells on the tour itself that the affiliate gets no credit for :/

That's the type of sponsor that I would drop straight away. Might aswell flush your traffic down the dunny!

All sponsors upsell and so they should - but very very very few pay the affiliate for the upsell and that pisses me off to no end.

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11-23-2005, 11:28 AM

As long as Affiliates are willing to share chargebacks, and credits to surfer.
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11-23-2005, 11:29 AM

They most certainly would.

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11-23-2005, 11:56 AM

Yes

Our affilates get credit for all upsells and cross sells within the members first 30 days. We think that is fair. What do you GFYers think?

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11-23-2005, 12:01 PM

that would be nice..
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11-23-2005, 12:06 PM

This would be a logistical nightmare. If the site is selling other sites in the network, than yes... They should credit the affiliate.

If the website is upselling another companies site, this would require the original site to have every affiliate's code for the upsells in order for them to credit the affiliate.

I have no problem seeing an AFF ad or a pills sponser (anything other than another porn site) on the main content page. I just don't think that it should be the first thing the surfer sees, and I don't think there should be an overbearing banner farm.
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11-23-2005, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by Lightspeed

Lightspeedcash credits affiliates for upsells

Yep

I get credited a bunch of sales with no referers and odd dollar amounts from lightspeed upsales.

Your program reminds me of cable where people decide to pay extra for additional channels

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11-23-2005, 12:51 PM

Yup! Upsells are an important part of any business...

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11-23-2005, 12:51 PM

Sure why not?

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11-23-2005, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by Anthony

As long as Affiliates are willing to share chargebacks, and credits to surfer.

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11-23-2005, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by Anthony

As long as Affiliates are willing to share chargebacks, and credits to surfer.

Hell I already get those took with most sponsors anyways.
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11-23-2005, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by shermsshack

This would be a logistical nightmare. If the site is selling other sites in the network, than yes... They should credit the affiliate.

If the website is upselling another companies site, this would require the original site to have every affiliate's code for the upsells in order for them to credit the affiliate.

I have no problem seeing an AFF ad or a pills sponser (anything other than another porn site) on the main content page. I just don't think that it should be the first thing the surfer sees, and I don't think there should be an overbearing banner farm.

yes I was referring to sites that upsell their own products/sites etc from within their members areas. Banners to other programs don't bother me one bit. It's the upsells for their own stuff. As for the logistics of it - surely it wouldn't be that difficult to line up an affiliate id with a customer

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11-23-2005, 03:35 PM

Those of you that said yes that revshare sponsors should pay on upsells have never paid a BW bill on all the free hosted gals they give you to make your money on. Why dont some of you just move into your sponsors homes... maybe they will make you dinner also.

Cant wait till some of you actually own a real business and find out what real expenses are. But wait, you got to finish High School first.
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11-23-2005, 03:45 PM

I think affiliates should get 35.00/trial join, paid on all exits, upsells, cancelled members who join again at a discounted rate, cross sales etc....

Affiliates that ask for all that are the typical affiliate who sends 1 join per month and wants free hosting, gallery maker, submitter etc....

They are lazy, lazy and lazy.

Now which sponsor wants to step up to the plate and give me all that I have just mentioned....LOL

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11-23-2005, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by Shooting_Maniac1

Those of you that said yes that revshare sponsors should pay on upsells have never paid a BW bill on all the free hosted gals they give you to make your money on. Why dont some of you just move into your sponsors homes... maybe they will make you dinner also.

Cant wait till some of you actually own a real business and find out what real expenses are. But wait, you got to finish High School first.

I think you'll find a number of people treat this as a business. Just because we're not the one supplying the product doesn't mean we can't call this a business.

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11-23-2005, 03:59 PM

Rev Share sponsors should do all this and more.
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11-23-2005, 04:18 PM

If an affiliate sends a referral, they should get credit for anything that results from that referral's purchases..
If you hadn't sent the referral, the sponsor wouldn't make a cent off of them..

If a sponsor sends your referral anywhere that you don't get credit... dump em..
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11-23-2005, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by georgeyw

I think you'll find a number of people treat this as a business. Just because we're not the one supplying the product doesn't mean we can't call this a business.

Not much different than Walmart...
They don't manufacture anything.. they just make it accessible..

Ebay doesn't sell anything.. they just give access to those that do..

Not much difference..
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08-30-2006, 06:53 AM

Using ccbill, if the customer is already a member and the affiliate already received credit for the signup, can you even track & pay affiliates if there is an upsell to another one of your sites or products?

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08-30-2006, 07:05 AM

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego

I think affiliates should get 35.00/trial join, paid on all exits, upsells, cancelled members who join again at a discounted rate, cross sales etc....

Now which sponsor wants to step up to the plate and give me all that I have just mentioned....LOL

I would but you would only send me 1 sale, if any at all.
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08-30-2006, 07:09 AM

revshare i feel they should but not at a 30-40$ pps

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08-30-2006, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by chodadog

Revshare: Yes
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08-30-2006, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by georgeyw

That's the type of sponsor that I would drop straight away. Might aswell flush your traffic down the dunny!
All sponsors upsell and so they should - but very very very few pay the affiliate for the upsell and that pisses me off to no end.

some sponsors payout upsells like VOD , Dating, Live Chat, Sex toys ..etc

some do not payout on upsells... I can see if rev-share. they should share, but pps they keep everything.

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08-30-2006, 09:53 AM

We think that affiliates should receive credit for all their traffic, and we have tours and members areas to back it up.

No upsells unless the affiliate receives credit As our new sites are added, affiliate will receive credit for every upsell or additional sale.

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