Agreed, as well as I don't think Imlive should have brought any of the details of the situation until they had reached a conclusion on the investigation. Amy may have had no part in the supposed fraud, but Imlive posting this detailed info makes it appear that she is clearly committing fraud.
In truth though, there would have been no need for a rebuttal at all had she not opened the door and blasted her allegations in the first place. I know the urge to "hit back" is strong in these cases, but it is just about always best to wait and see how things turn out, wait until you are proven right before attempting to trash the other party.
And one other comment and I'm out...... it was in poor taste to start bitching about such things as the 65% cut on the tips thing here. Why? Because it was something that she obviously agreed to upon accepting work with ImLive. I assume that no one held a gun to her rather beautiful head to sign on so bitching about it now again only looks like the icing on the tantrum.
No disrespect to neither the model involved nor Pcash and ImLive .....
but the thought strikes me...
If a model has her OWN FUCKING WEBSITE...... why be modeling at I'm Live?
My site was for fun... for a while. I wasnt pushing it. Not when I was making a KILLER living at ImLive. Then they got greedy.
I DID NOT post the first post about the fraud. Hell, I had no idea why they were suspending me. I was ppissed off because it isnt the first time I have been suspended for something stupid (I had done nothing wrong) so I got a little mad. And no, I hardly worked after they took another 5% for marketing.
Bottom line is this. They accused me of fraud in their rebuttal to my post. I only stated facts in mine. I never committed fraud, but hmmmmm... now people may think I have. That, my friend, makes a good case.
In truth though, there would have been no need for a rebuttal at all had she not opened the door and blasted her allegations in the first place. I know the urge to "hit back" is strong in these cases, but it is just about always best to wait and see how things turn out, wait until you are proven right before attempting to trash the other party.
And one other comment and I'm out...... it was in poor taste to start bitching about such things as the 65% cut on the tips thing here. Why? Because it was something that she obviously agreed to upon accepting work with ImLive. I assume that no one held a gun to her rather beautiful head to sign on so bitching about it now again only looks like the icing on the tantrum.
Amy- Get a page up to your affiliate program and put it in your sig, pronto. Even if it's black Times Roman on a white background. You're missing mad opportunity here.
Affiliate program will be ready in the morning. I was just waiting on my templates.
Just a thought here, maybe the 2 people at the check cashing place, who got fired, forged the checks, knowing that she always cashes her checks there and that the amounts are usually fairly large. Because why would they fire someone for accepting a forged check from a person who is a regular customer?
And from my experience of check cashing places, it's all caught on tape, and they require an ID. The only way around those two things would be if you worked there...
"After reading the posted comments of the imlive rep. i decided not to invest/signup in/with Amysworld website b/c the imlive rep made statements that she forges cheques and now I dont trust the business pratices of the website. I also wonder how many people also came to this conclusion since it would be a probable conclusion after reading the posts in this thread"
The signature is wrong. The date is written in the wrong format. The details of the bank are wrong. We could go on with more indicators, but for reasons of bank secrecy (and to avoid giving more clues to the next generation of forgers) we prefer not to reveal all of the indicators.
We and the bank would of course be ready to do it if requested by the local prosecutor.
sry guys, by my experience PussyCash is good people, but in this case I smell bullshit! If Amy's been with ImLive for 1.5 years she should know in what format the date is written on the checks and by logic should not have made that mistake when she, as you claim, forged the check.
And getting advice from a lawyer takes 5-10 minutes, just picking up the phone.
"After reading the posted comments of the imlive rep. i decided not to invest/signup in/with Amysworld website b/c the imlive rep made statements that she forges cheques and now I dont trust the business pratices of the website. I also wonder how many people also came to this conclusion since it would be a probable conclusion after reading the posts in this thread"
hello amy's fake nic posting what your lawyer sent over to post --- hahahahaha
That thread should be deleted, Imlive is totally right here, if there is indeed such check they had to suspend your account. Just get over it and get naked for another company.
years ago i had an issue with b of a that took some serious solving on their part. during that time, i had a check written to me that i cashed at a local check-cashing place. i had not used one previously, and had contacted the guy i did the work for to make sure the check cleared okay.
about 3 weeks later, i got a couple rather threatening calls from the check cashing place that the check had bounced and that if i did not come in and pay it, they would take legal action. i called the guy who wrote the check who said he would be happy to provide me with a photocopy of the paid check. when i told the manager of the check cashing place that i could provide it, he said something surly and hung up - but i didn't hear from them again.
my point? my admittedly small experience with check cashing establishments has not left me convinced of their honesty. i'm sure there are many honest check cashing places, but i know they're not all honest, and they have access to your sig, a copy of your i.d. and your checks. what's more, they video everything in closeups, so it will be easy enough for law enforcement to find out what the amount of the checks amy cashed are.
That thread should be deleted, Imlive is totally right here, if there is indeed such check they had to suspend your account. Just get over it and get naked for another company.
You just won the ASSHOLE prize ...
All this is basically the results of :
- a fraud by somebody else than Amy
- a reaction by ImLive against the wrong person
- a reaction from Amy being pissed off ( with reason: it is her livehood )
If I was going to commit fraud, I would make the checks correct ( good date format etc ..), I wouldn't put them to my name and I wouldn't cash them where I normally cashed my checks ...
This smells like shit because it is shit ...
I believe that Amy is a victim as well as ImLive ... They should have talked before jumping the gun
I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....
Ah, the perils of running a webcam site. Not to mention being a webcam model.
This sounds to me like a minor misunderstanding that has gotten hugely out of hand. Let's hope they are able to resolve their differences OFF the boards. Good luck.
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Surefire, what proof is she supposed to post?..she was given no proof.
Maybe a screen shot of the payments she received and admitting she cashed those checks, instead of posting that two employees got fired and how is Imlive/PussyCash is going to get their jobs back.
I must be really out of the loop. I would disassociate myself from people who were implementing me in a felony, but that is just me. Plus, I am just too cheap or scared to use a check cashing establishment.
Who knows or cares, but Amy started this thread and it turned ugly. With all her brains and beauty, she should have thought about posting and being called out with implications that she passes bad checks?sometimes things should be kept off a public bb.
If she had no clue why her account was put on hold, I believe she should have dealt with the company via email or telephone instead of bringing it to the boards
To make sure that everyone understands what we are talking about and how bad the situation is, I?ll explain.
We have received a copy of two forged ImLive checks in the amount of nearly $10,000 from our Bank with Amy's full name on them.
Someone was trying to cash those checks in one of the banks where Amy lives.
This issue was forwarded to our legal department and they are dealing with it now, so I'm not going to keep on responding to this. I think it is clear we took the right step regarding this issue.
its funny but i dont believe you. i highly doubt she would be here on this board if she had done it, she would rather be busy with her lawyer
- a fraud by somebody else than Amy
- a reaction by ImLive against the wrong person
- a reaction from Amy being pissed off ( with reason: it is her livehood )
If I was going to commit fraud, I would make the checks correct ( good date format etc ..), I wouldn't put them to my name and I wouldn't cash them where I normally cashed my checks ...
This smells like shit because it is shit ...
I believe that Amy is a victim as well as ImLive ... They should have talked before jumping the gun
CORRECT! just wondering if the checks are real or a fabricated story by IMlive team itself. Who knows
What I dont understand it WHY the last 2 checks I recieved FROM IMLIVE VIA Fed Ex were labeled forgeries???? I worked for that money!! People got FIRED from the check cashing place that cashed my checks. Are you going to get their jobs back ImLive?????? I am so f'ing pissed right now because I KNOW I earned that money and the checks pretty much BOUNCED.
WHY IMLIVE???????
I am done posting here.. I am going to the source.
(I have a report of my earnings printed out. I had to to get my house. I am so pissed right now I could spit fire)
Why would you cash $10,000 checks at a "check cashing place?
#1, ANY transaction of 10,000 must be reported so you just added an extra flag to the check that you tried to cash.
#2, I believed your story until I found out that it wasn't an actual bank where the checks were cashed....
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amy and the imlive guy have to be two of the dumbest people on this board.
my free legal tips of the day.
1) don't accuse someone of committing multiple felonies in a public forum.
2) don't comment on a serious matter that is under investigation.
3) if you are being accused... dont be so fucking stupid as to talk about it either.
what a bunch of fucking retards. if you guys have attorneys, they must be the dumbest motherfuckers on the face of the earth.
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i wouldn't have put it quite that way, but it did occur to me early on that in every case where i have ever seen a program accusing someone of a crime the FIRST thing their lawyer did was tell them not to talk about it.
regardless of her innocence, amy probably shouldn't have talked details about it, either - and again, any lawyer i know would tell you definitely NOT to talk details about this publically.
anything each party says here - no matter if they manage to say something so it doesn't come off quite the way they meant it - is open to the other party. even if this stays civil and doesn't go to criminal procedings, they are giving away each others' cases and contentions to each other.
not smart.
Originally posted by Pleasurepays
amy and the imlive guy have to be two of the dumbest people on this board.
my free legal tips of the day.
1) don't accuse someone of committing multiple felonies in a public forum.
2) don't comment on a serious matter that is under investigation.
3) if you are being accused... dont be so fucking stupid as to talk about it either.
what a bunch of fucking retards. if you guys have attorneys, they must be the dumbest motherfuckers on the face of the earth.
Back in the day.. ImLive took 5% of our 40% cut that we were getting for "marketing"...
The NEXT DAY from them implementing their program, there were 3 GUYS that came to my room asking why I have in my profile that I didnt pee when I TOLD THEM in a yahoo chatroom that I did... People were promoting ImLive impersonating us telling guys that we did things we didnt. Also telling them they would get more time for the money. JUST to get a $X sign up ImLive had promised.
ImLive offers the guys to tip the girls but guess what... 65% of that tip goes to the house. Greedy bastards.
I did NOT promote my site, I was accused, suspended, and let back in when "everything was ok". I have been acused so many times there from girls who know I have a site. It is easy to do. If you were to call up ImLive and say something about a girl there, I bet you, they would have their account suspended.
"theyre only looking into your account"
Then why not let me work?
They are so freaking greedy and noone will complain for fear their account will be deleted.
I guess the 5% went towards those new cars they give away
You only make 35% of your tips, that sucks. Sorry to hear you had problems, although I doubt any cam company is without their horror stories from a at least a few chathost.
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Of course traffic addict is ImLive's representative...
These are Imlive's formal responses.
Amy did make a lot of money on the site in the past but these two checks were fakes and are being investigated by our bank.
She never earned the amounts that appeared on the forged checks on which her name appeared and that were cashed by HER (by her own written admission against interest - easily admissible in court actually - good thinking Amy).
Amy - getting a lawyer is your first smart move.
ImLive has actually never issued a check to any host in the amounts appearing on those forged checks. Furthermore, all of the checks ever sent to Amy were paid.
As we and our bank have determined, there are a number of indicators of forgery versus the electronically produced standard checks issued by the thousands by ImLive annually:
The signature is wrong. The date is written in the wrong format. The details of the bank are wrong. We could go on with more indicators, but for reasons of bank secrecy (and to avoid giving more clues to the next generation of forgers) we prefer not to reveal all of the indicators.
We and the bank would of course be ready to do it if requested by the local prosecutor.
We were very impressed by the speed with which your lawyer gave you an answer Amy, but frankly we think 56 minutes for your lawyer to provide you with an expert opinion on your case (as your postings indicate) is inadequate in light of the criminal penalties you face.
Damn you guys are quick to jump the gun and accuse her of fraud. you have to actually prove it before you go around telling the world she is a fraud and damaging her reputation. Just because she is the most likely candidate is not proof by any means. Did it ever occur to you that someone at the check cashing place could have been behind it. They make what $7 an hour I wouldn't put it past one of those people. No matter how stupid you may think she is, would any chathost really think that you guys wouldn't notice the extra 20K she wrote herself??? Especially one that has been with the company so long and that is one of the top host and know well by the company. I could see, maybe, a new chathost who signed up with fake info and thought they would give it a shot.... it seems most logical to me that she didn't do it and you will have a hard time proving it.
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if you have a good attorney, in the end you should have enough money from this deal to buy a new house and stop renting.
There's definately something fishy going on. 65% of tips goes to the house...I mean these are facts that aren't made up I am sure. Good luck to you Amy.
very interesting thread but raises questions:
you make 20k a month and rent not own?
Go to a check cashing place because having to wait, my bank I deposited a check for 20 grand and had access within two days.
If yourbank does that and its too long for you, what do you do with all that cash that you live paycheck to paycheck.
You should be able to get the record from fedex if they sent the checks they are talking about to you.
I think if she had done this the fbi would of been knocking on her door not going to your legal department.
Bringing all of this on here shows great unprofessionalism on the part of imlive.
also there are two reasons the banks checks for bad checks:
not enough money in the account or the bank customer contacts the bank because of checks they didnt write.
No one at a bank looks at the checks its all computers now and if your company writes checks of that size it wouldnt throw up any flags.
And Amy either you need a serious class on money management or a 12 step group.
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