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  • adultchica
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2005
    • 5141

    #101
    Oh yeah and 100

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    • Young
      Bland for life
      • Nov 2004
      • 10468

      #102
      Originally posted by traffic addict
      To make sure that everyone understands what we are talking about and how bad the situation is, I?ll explain.

      We have received a copy of two forged ImLive checks in the amount of nearly $10,000 from our Bank with Amy's full name on them.
      Someone was trying to cash those checks in one of the banks where Amy lives.

      This issue was forwarded to our legal department and they are dealing with it now, so I'm not going to keep on responding to this. I think it is clear we took the right step regarding this issue.
      You've already said too much.
      ★★★

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      • XPays
        Team Player
        • May 2004
        • 13002

        #103
        pussycash has always bent over backwards for us and our associates

        this thing reads like a big misunderstanding. btw- we have had an innocent affiliate deposit a check for $36.00 and it cleared for $36,000.00 due to a bank error. hopefully this was just a bank error and a misunderstanding - but, the affiliation program has to maintain its ground in a bank fraud situation and hopefully you all get this worked out without having to sling any more mud.
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        • Hammer
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          • Apr 2003
          • 961

          #104
          It's not slander anyway, it's libel since it's in print and not spoken.
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          • MickeyG
            Confirmed User
            • May 2004
            • 4134

            #105
            Originally posted by aico
            Just a thought here, maybe the 2 people at the check cashing place, who got fired, forged the checks, knowing that she always cashes her checks there and that the amounts are usually fairly large. Because why would they fire someone for accepting a forged check from a person who is a regular customer?

            And from my experience of check cashing places, it's all caught on tape, and they require an ID. The only way around those two things would be if you worked there...

            BTW. you are gorgeous.

            sounds alot more likely then Amy trying to duplicate and cash the checks herself.

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            • JMM
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2001
              • 1755

              #106
              Originally posted by The Hammer
              Not being worried about being accused of forging checks just proves how naive you are. It matters not whether you think the accusations are legit or not, if PussyCash feels they have a case and they take you to court, you still have to spend money to prove them wrong.
              I think you are being naive as well. Not knowing the actual facts, here are my observations:

              1. Publically accusing someone of a criminal act exposes you to liability. Financial liability, big $$$$

              2. If they take her to court, and they lose, they have again exposed themselves to financial liability. Big $$$$.

              3. If this did occur, why isn't law enforcement involved and why aren't they demanding prosecution?

              4. Finally, I am not even sure ImLive even has standing to take legal action. I know that my bank, and most banks, do not hold account holders responsible for acts of fraud. If that is the case, ImLive is not the victim, the bank is the victim and it is their place to take action.

              People do stupid things all the time so I can't say I believe one side or the other. But, if someone were to forge checks, seems strange that they would put their name on the checks thus leaving a paper trail that leads right to their doorstep.

              My bet is on the employees at the check cashing place. But I'm only betting $2.

              Now, I have to go send a single signup to pussycash so I can get my $50,000 that has been promised to me in their sig.
              Last edited by JMM; 11-17-2005, 11:42 AM.

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              • Amysworld
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2005
                • 1578

                #107
                Originally posted by adultchica
                I am a little confused. Like I said, this seems like guilty until proven innocent. That's not fair. Amy, is it possible you have a dishonest neighbor /friend that has gone through your mail and tried to copy your checks and cash them ? Or one of the employees (not saying they did, just a possible scenario) tried to make a copy of your checks and cash them? I wonder how the signature on the "forged checks" compares to your handwriting. It sounds to me like someone might have gotten a hold of one of your checks and copied it and cashed it!
                I get the checks via Fed Ex. The only hands it goes through are me and the people who cash it.

                I only got defensive when I was accused of something i did not do. If you look from ImLive's very first post, they already pointed the finger without looking elsewhere.

                I have to work on my affiliate program.. I am done until my lawyer contacts me further.

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                • XPays
                  Team Player
                  • May 2004
                  • 13002

                  #108
                  Originally posted by JMM
                  ...

                  Now, I have to go send a single signup to pussycash so I can get my $50,000 that has been promised to me in their sig.

                  i read the banner as you "COULD" win? do you see a different banner?
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                  • Scootermuze
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 4513

                    #109
                    Originally posted by traffic addict
                    ............

                    Amy did make a lot of money on the site in the past but these two checks were fakes and are being investigated by our bank.
                    ..............

                    Somethin is fishy here....

                    If the checks were fakes, this would be a counterfeiting investigation.. not a forgery investigation..

                    Why is, "forgery" supposedly being used by the bank and lawyers??

                    Both know what counterfeiting is.. as opposed to forgery..

                    Now I'm beginning to lean..

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                    • KMR Stitch
                      I am cool
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 14494

                      #110
                      Originally posted by XPays
                      i read the banner as you "COULD" win? do you see a different banner?
                      Yeah I was just about to say that.

                      The way you word things. ;-)

                      Just like it's iilegal for MC'ds make you supersize/BUY meals to get Monolopy peices in there game Thats why they state no Purchase necessary.
                      (You can write them and get a free peice)
                      It would be a form of gabling if it wasn't.

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                      • JMM
                        Confirmed User
                        • Apr 2001
                        • 1755

                        #111
                        Originally posted by XPays
                        i read the banner as you "COULD" win? do you see a different banner?
                        Above the banner, in big pink letters:

                        "Send only 1 signup to ImLive or WildMatch and Pussycash will make you $50,000 richer."

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                        • KMR Stitch
                          I am cool
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 14494

                          #112
                          Originally posted by Scootermuze
                          ..............

                          Somethin is fishy here....

                          If the checks were fakes, this would be a counterfeiting investigation.. not a forgery investigation..

                          Why is, "forgery" supposedly being used by the bank and lawyers??

                          Both know what counterfeiting is.. as opposed to forgery..

                          Now I'm beginning to lean..
                          You must not have read the entire thread. He stated shit was changed. Which is Forgery.

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                          • XPays
                            Team Player
                            • May 2004
                            • 13002

                            #113
                            Originally posted by KMR Stitch
                            Yeah I was just about to say that.

                            ...
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                            • Scootermuze
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 4513

                              #114
                              Originally posted by JMM
                              Above the banner, in big pink letters:

                              "Send only 1 signup to ImLive or WildMatch and Pussycash will make you $50,000 richer."
                              A good lawyer could make it so.. Just ask Publishers' Clearing House..

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                              • KMR Stitch
                                I am cool
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 14494

                                #115
                                Originally posted by JMM
                                Above the banner, in big pink letters:

                                "Send only 1 signup to ImLive or WildMatch and Pussycash will make you $50,000 richer."
                                Rules & Regulations

                                ImLive Commissions: During November, December and January, the payment for ImLive sign-ups will be as follows: 1-200 sign-ups - $50 per sign-up, 201-450 sign-ups - $60 per sign-up, 451-750 sign-ups - $70 per sign-up, 751+ sign-ups - $100 per sign-up. Sign-ups are counted separately for each pay period (i.e. at the beginning of each pay period they are counted starting from 1 again).
                                This competition is also running at http://affiliate.imlive.com.
                                Winner Selection: The drawing will take place between the 1st and 15th of February and the winner will be announced no later than February 20th. More details about the drawing will be published shortly.
                                Requirements for Receipt of Prize: PussyCash will contact the winner using the phone number in the affiliate's personal details and an email notification between the 1st and 15th of February. PussyCash will also pay for the transportation of the winner to the location of the prize. In order to receive the prize, the winner must:
                                (a) Respond to the phone call or other notification within 4 days.
                                (b) Arrive for the reception of the prize and be filmed/have photographs taken with the prize.
                                (c) Agree to let us use your name and the photo/video for marketing purposes and publish it in any location we choose.

                                Click here for the Official Rules


                                I would just say thats marketing. Everything has a TOS

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                                • XPays
                                  Team Player
                                  • May 2004
                                  • 13002

                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by JMM
                                  Above the banner, in big pink letters:

                                  "Send only 1 signup to ImLive or WildMatch and Pussycash will make you $50,000 richer."
                                  haaaaaaaaa - knowing you - you will take them up on that one quote and sue j/k (sort of) but they can fix that pretty quickly with another "could" in there.
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                                  • Hammer
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2003
                                    • 961

                                    #117
                                    I know this is off topic but the banner clearly says send joins and you 'could' win $50k. What's so hard to understand about that? As long as they give the $50k to someone, they ran a legit promotion and I seriously doubt it will be someone that only sent 1 sale.

                                    The pink text is pretty funny though.
                                    Last edited by Hammer; 11-17-2005, 11:55 AM.
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                                    • XPays
                                      Team Player
                                      • May 2004
                                      • 13002

                                      #118
                                      hey- where's my $50k lolololol - jmm is right - you guys have our info lololololololololol
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                                      • JMM
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2001
                                        • 1755

                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by XPays
                                        haaaaaaaaa - knowing you - you will take them up on that one quote and sue j/k (sort of) but they can fix that pretty quickly with another "could" in there.
                                        Well, one of my lawyers is taking me to the Lakers game tomorrow night and depending on the outcome of our conversation, I might be buying beer for my whole row that night.

                                        I wouldn't hold them to that, but honestly, I bet they could be held to that by a good lawyer, they should change the wording.

                                        And for the rest of you, does the banner blind you to the rest of the page? Look above the banner.

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                                        • phonesex
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2005
                                          • 3437

                                          #120
                                          bump for Amy

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                                          • traffic addict
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2003
                                            • 3312

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by JMM
                                            Above the banner, in big pink letters:

                                            "Send only 1 signup to ImLive or WildMatch and Pussycash will make you $50,000 richer."
                                            Thanks for letting me know about this, the "will" was changed to "could"
                                            And that doesn't mean that you should stop trying to send us a signup, after all even with the "could" you have a better chance then 1:11,040 to win $50,000


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                                            • JMM
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Apr 2001
                                              • 1755

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by XPays
                                              ok so we see the same banner- pussycash has given away a ton of prizes- electronics, boxster, reacharound's.......
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                                              • Scootermuze
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2001
                                                • 4513

                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by KMR Stitch
                                                You must not have read the entire thread. He stated shit was changed. Which is Forgery.
                                                I have been reading...

                                                Part of it being, "The signature is wrong. The date is written in the wrong format. The details of the bank are wrong."

                                                It wasn't an electronically produced standard check issued by ImLive..

                                                counterfeit: To imitate or feign especially with intent to deceive..

                                                Things apparently weren't changed on one of their checks.. which would be forgery.. Someone tried to make a check to appear to be from I'm Live..

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                                                • emthree
                                                  Dialer Kingpin
                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                  • 10816

                                                  #124
                                                  Would be fun to see IMLive go down for fucking up the rep of a nice girl, over a misunderstanding.
                                                  Score one for the little people Amy :D

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                                                  • JMM
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                    • 1755

                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by emthree
                                                    Would be fun to see IMLive go down for fucking up the rep of a nice girl, over a misunderstanding.
                                                    Score one for the little people Amy :D
                                                    I remember you! Weren't you the kid that lived on my block when I was 5? The kid who used to like to burn ants with a magnifying class?

                                                    Why exactly would that be fun?

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                                                    • lazycash
                                                      Troll Patrol
                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 15214

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by adultchica
                                                      I am a little confused. Like I said, this seems like guilty until proven innocent. That's not fair. Amy, is it possible you have a dishonest neighbor /friend that has gone through your mail and tried to copy your checks and cash them ? Or one of the employees (not saying they did, just a possible scenario) tried to make a copy of your checks and cash them? I wonder how the signature on the "forged checks" compares to your handwriting. It sounds to me like someone might have gotten a hold of one of your checks and copied it and cashed it!
                                                      This is what I was thinking, I bet an employee at the check cashing place got a hold of one her prior cashed checks and tried to wash it or re create it and then deposit it. Seems too odd that if Amy committed these acts she would be continuing to post here and talk about it in detail. The check cashing place should have survellience video on the date in question to see who tried to cash the checks. If Amy had no involvement at all, then Imlive is going to owe her a big public apology.
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                                                      • Babagirls
                                                        Text Writer
                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                        • 18812

                                                        #127
                                                        (not taking sides, just saying...)

                                                        i had the same thing happen to me from ifriends. i was making BANK from them, then one day I go to log in and it says my account was suspended. i emailed them, they said my account was actually CLOSED cuz i was telling my 'customers' to go to a website.....but this was BEFORE i was even a webmaster!! and to this day, i NEVER had my own website (that was targeted/used for cam'ing, with nude pics and whatnot.)

                                                        They withheld my last check from me, I had to turn them into the BBB online, they claimed they sent me the check however, i got the check (that was dated the day after i contacted the BBB) a few days later. Gotta love this biz.




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                                                        • SureFire
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                          • 4398

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by lazycash
                                                          This is what I was thinking, I bet an employee at the check cashing place got a hold of one her prior cashed checks and tried to wash it or re create it and then deposit it. Seems too odd that if Amy committed these acts she would be continuing to post here and talk about it in detail. The check cashing place should have survellience video on the date in question to see who tried to cash the checks. If Amy had no involvement at all, then Imlive is going to owe her a big public apology.
                                                          Who knows, Amy did state that she owes money to ACE and two employees got fired on page two.

                                                          I do know, though I have no luck in converting Imlive.com, that PussyCash is a stand-up company on the boards and with their affiliates so why would they be different with their hosts?

                                                          Must say this is an interesting read

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                                                          • Amysworld
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Nov 2005
                                                            • 1578

                                                            #129
                                                            What does "stand-up company" mean?

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                                                            • C_U_Next_Tuesday
                                                              WW4L
                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 10581

                                                              #130
                                                              Good for you Amy. Don't take shit from these fucks!

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                                                              • tranza
                                                                ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                • 57559

                                                                #131
                                                                damn drama
                                                                I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                • ry0t
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                  • 4160

                                                                  #132
                                                                  ImLive sucks in my opinion. Never try to become a chathost agent. One little thing the girl gets pissed about and she wants to quit with you and move right to imlive. And oh Imlive has no problem cancelling the girl from your account and getting the girl to go directly to imlive. Eat my ass imlive you suck.

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                                                                  • SureFire
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                    • 4398

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by Amysworld
                                                                    What does "stand-up company" mean?
                                                                    Standup,stand-up or stand up is an old term...general phrase meaning:upstanding, a company that stands for positive values, doesn't cheat or lie,

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                                                                    • huey
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                      • 3955

                                                                      #134
                                                                      You should sign up with us. We are the best. See sig
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                                                                      • KMR Stitch
                                                                        I am cool
                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                        • 14494

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by Amysworld
                                                                        What does "stand-up company" mean?
                                                                        You have to be kidding

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                                                                        • phonesex
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Mar 2005
                                                                          • 3437

                                                                          #136
                                                                          bump....

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                                                                          • jact
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                            • 9134

                                                                            #137
                                                                            I read the first two pages and it made my head hurt. This is so the wrong venue to be discussing fraud.

                                                                            Amy, fraud is a felony, even being accused of it is bad, innocent or not, you're in for a lot of hurt.

                                                                            I'm not taking sides, I have no idea what the third side of the story is (The truth). Interesting situtation though.
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                                                                            • Drake
                                                                              Hello world!
                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                              • 12508

                                                                              #138
                                                                              One more reason why wire payments rock

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                                                                              • Amysworld
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Nov 2005
                                                                                • 1578

                                                                                #139
                                                                                Originally posted by KMR Stitch
                                                                                You have to be kidding
                                                                                The reason why I said that is this...

                                                                                I do know, though I have no luck in converting Imlive.com, that PussyCash is a stand-up company on the boards and with their affiliates so why would they be different with their hosts?
                                                                                The way it sounded was using a likeness with ImLive and Pussycash. I was confused.

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                                                                                • Amysworld
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                  • 1578

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by Mike33
                                                                                  One more reason why wire payments rock
                                                                                  I will NEVER work for anyone that doesnt do direct deposit. This is a learning experience.

                                                                                  Hell, NiteFlirt deposits your money DAILY.

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                                                                                  • Amysworld
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Nov 2005
                                                                                    • 1578

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Originally posted by jact
                                                                                    I read the first two pages and it made my head hurt. This is so the wrong venue to be discussing fraud.

                                                                                    Amy, fraud is a felony, even being accused of it is bad, innocent or not, you're in for a lot of hurt.

                                                                                    I'm not taking sides, I have no idea what the third side of the story is (The truth). Interesting situtation though.
                                                                                    Well looks like I have to drop a chunk of money for my lawyer but this will work out. I wasnt at the place when my check was supposedly cashed and I have 4 alibis. (I had thrown a party and people had slept over).

                                                                                    But this is Vegas and they take check fraud seriously. Looks like I am going to pay one way or another. Good thing I make decent money. But dayum.. I could pay off rent for 6 months for this freaking fiasco.

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                                                                                    • SureFire
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                      • 4398

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      Originally posted by Amysworld
                                                                                      The reason why I said that is this...



                                                                                      The way it sounded was using a likeness with ImLive and Pussycash. I was confused.
                                                                                      You were right and I will say again PussyCash on the boards and treating affiliates is upstanding...but then again, I am not being accused of passing bad checks

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                                                                                      • C_U_Next_Tuesday
                                                                                        WW4L
                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                        • 10581

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        girls who make that kind of cake have no need to forge checks. They know they can sign on and make that money again in a week.

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                                                                                        • Amysworld
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Nov 2005
                                                                                          • 1578

                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          You got that right Betty. There is no way I would risk a federal charge for 10k when I can make that in 2 pay periods elsewhere.

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                                                                                          • SureFire
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                                                            • 4398

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday
                                                                                            girls who make that kind of cake have no need to forge checks. They know they can sign on and make that money again in a week.
                                                                                            So true, same as girls and boys that know their traffic. I guess that everyone should start a new thread how they were screwed by a company when their account was suspended for passing bad checks.

                                                                                            Amy could have posted proof that she is not a thief if she could prove it. Instead, she is off to find a lawyer?and I have feeling the lawyer?s office is right next door to where she cashes her checks
                                                                                            Last edited by SureFire; 11-17-2005, 06:41 PM.

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                                                                                            • CDSmith
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                              • 51460

                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              So... Amy's ImLive account was only "put on hold" while they needed time to investigate what the bank was telling them.

                                                                                              Conclusion: there was no need for this thread.

                                                                                              At the very least it was grossly premature, and comes off reading like a retaliatory strike with a hint of vindictiveness to it.

                                                                                              If Amy is going to be charged, I think it would be better served to wait and see how it turns out before making judgement calls or calling the integrity of Pussycash/ImLive into question, of which they have thus far shown and exemplary amount of.

                                                                                              I do know that if I had two cheques in hand that my bank was saying were counterfeit I would certainly be suspending the account of the person whose name appears on said cheques immediately as well, and would be looking into it like Traffic Addict is. I seriously doubt that anyone here would do any different.
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                                                                                              • C_U_Next_Tuesday
                                                                                                WW4L
                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                • 10581

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                Surefire, what proof is she supposed to post?..she was given no proof.

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                                                                                                • lazycash
                                                                                                  Troll Patrol
                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                  • 15214

                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                                  So... Amy's ImLive account was only "put on hold" while they needed time to investigate what the bank was telling them.

                                                                                                  Conclusion: there was no need for this thread.

                                                                                                  At the very least it was grossly premature, and comes off reading like a retaliatory strike with a hint of vindictiveness to it.

                                                                                                  If Amy is going to be charged, I think it would be better served to wait and see how it turns out before making judgement calls or calling the integrity of Pussycash/ImLive into question, of which they have thus far shown and exemplary amount of.

                                                                                                  I do know that if I had two cheques in hand that my bank was saying were counterfeit I would certainly be suspending the account of the person whose name appears on said cheques immediately as well, and would be looking into it like Traffic Addict is. I seriously doubt that anyone here would do any different.
                                                                                                  Agreed, as well as I don't think Imlive should have brought any of the details of the situation until they had reached a conclusion on the investigation. Amy may have had no part in the supposed fraud, but Imlive posting this detailed info makes it appear that she is clearly committing fraud.
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                                                                                                  • Holly
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                                    • 10017

                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Holy shit, this thread sure picked up, lol.

                                                                                                    Amy- Get a page up to your affiliate program and put it in your sig, pronto. Even if it's black Times Roman on a white background. You're missing mad opportunity here.
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                                                                                                    • Theo
                                                                                                      HAL 9000
                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                      • 34515

                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      I agree with cdsmith. I have a feeling amy is not involved to that, but i don't see any alternative option for sponsor in that case.

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