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i got hit by the 35 second rule congrats mikey
fucking atlantis fucked me over i hate that placemy sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died
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yeah man message me and work out a deal for putting it up in some members areas or something. i'll get you some good shit.Comment
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this has to be one of the best reads in awhile
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That's all fine and dandy but I come from mainstream. We worry about profitability, not popularity. Someone wants to pay outrageous fees for what is like a robot posting on a message board, that's fine. It's not my business. I just don't want to do business with them. That's an unknown variable.Its not just about the rider for the show and even being friends with juicy i couldn't tell you fully what happen here. what i can tell you is that believe it or not Juicy gets paid good money to promote all types of products. sometimes he does it in ways that you don't even realize he's doing it. that Rider is not that far off from other deals I've seen him get to attend shows or fly out to talk to someone about promoting things. I've seen him do deals with first class flights, Hotel rooms covered plus 3 months of really good money to promote something. I know for a fact that he makes more in one month promoting ( mostly by posting) then most part timers in the biz make in a year.
The bottom line is that people think he posts a bunch of BS but he gets results. people get a real return on what they pay him or they wouldn't sign 6 month and one year contracts for upper 4 figures a month with him.
There's only two reasons i attended this show last year. One is Juicy and the other is Steve Bugbee. they both asked me to attend and i gave it a shot. it was a great show and I'll be there this year to see how it evolved . I like both parties involved Juicy and Xbiz .. I'll give an honest report on my return
If anyone we do business with cave's because of someone who has a 100,000 plus posts on a message board, the traffic is gone. You don't do business with people like that. You can't rely on them. They're relying on exposure or the whims of someone who lives on a message board, not numbers.
I don't care about self proclaimed internet celebrities or them getting comp's for their friends. I care about margins. I'm sorry, that's business.
That is nothing personal against you.
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WOW, this sure has exploded again

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there are HUNDREDS of paid forum posting services in mainstream...I have used them TONSThat's all fine and dandy but I come from mainstream. We worry about profitability, not popularity. Someone wants to pay outrageous fees for what is like a robot posting on a message board, that's fine. It's not my business. I just don't want to do business with them. That's an unknown variable.
If anyone we do business with cave's because of someone who has a 100,000 plus posts on a message board, the traffic is gone. You don't do business with people like that. You can't rely on them. They're relying on exposure or the whims of someone who lives on a message board, not numbers.
I don't care about self proclaimed internet celebrities or them getting comp's for their friends. I care about margins. I'm sorry, that's business.
That is nothing personal against you.
Take care,
Phil
and if I was to see them at a mainstream convention I would buy them dinner
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Which one of these outsourced services require first class flights and per diem pay for themselves and their friends? I was under the strange assumption, you pay .10 per post? Apparently, you know something else?
Which net conventions have you been to? (Non adult). We might have met.Comment
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Hello? In my previous life as a media buyer, I've been to most non adult web gatherings.Which one of these outsourced services require first class flights and per diem pay for themselves and their friends? I was under the strange assumption, you pay .10 per post? Apparently, you know something else?
Which net conventions have you been to? (Non adult). We might have met.
If you've been to one in the past four years, I'm sure we've met or at least exchanged cards. I was a business card fanatic.Comment
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Its not just about the rider for the show and even being friends with juicy i couldn't tell you fully what happen here. what i can tell you is that believe it or not Juicy gets paid good money to promote all types of products. sometimes he does it in ways that you don't even realize he's doing it. that Rider is not that far off from other deals I've seen him get to attend shows or fly out to talk to someone about promoting things. I've seen him do deals with first class flights, Hotel rooms covered plus 3 months of really good money to promote something. I know for a fact that he makes more in one month promoting ( mostly by posting) then most part timers in the biz make in a year.
The bottom line is that people think he posts a bunch of BS but he gets results. people get a real return on what they pay him or they wouldn't sign 6 month and one year contracts for upper 4 figures a month with him.
There's only two reasons i attended this show last year. One is Juicy and the other is Steve Bugbee. they both asked me to attend and i gave it a shot. it was a great show and I'll be there this year to see how it evolved . I like both parties involved Juicy and Xbiz .. I'll give an honest report on my return
Very nice post.
I am assuming that Juicy knows exactly what he is doing (looking like a total fool, with melt downs every other day on this bb) and gains results with whatever contract he accepts!
I hope it works for the masses, but I never signed up with your program, just because Juicy was your 'buddy', and a lot of other programs that Juicy befriended or got paid for.
BTW, I am no big fish but
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oh, i didn't say they did, but giving people free shit that work for you is common in every businessWhich one of these outsourced services require first class flights and per diem pay for themselves and their friends? I was under the strange assumption, you pay .10 per post? Apparently, you know something else?
Which net conventions have you been to? (Non adult). We might have met.
and in all seriousness, the level of business that juicy brings to a company is insane, and in all honesty, it is something VERY unique....so unique circumstances surround it
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Juicy has never been paid by or worked for my company. I met him on the board 3 years ago and he happen to be 5 mins from my office. we hangout from time to time and travel to shows to save on limo costs and room together some times. He has no involvement with my company and i would think its a poor biz decision on your part not to try a company because the are friendly with someone. I can see not promoting something he owns. Like I've done in the past with pimpdog but to black list everyone someone talks to is crazy.Very nice post.
I am assuming that Juicy knows exactly what he is doing (looking like a total fool, with melt downs every other day on this bb) and gains results with whatever contract he accepts!
I hope it works for the masses, but I never signed up with your program, just because Juicy was your 'buddy', and a lot of other programs that Juicy befriended or got paid for.
BTW, I am no big fish but
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Only in this industry can someone get paid for being a totally worthless fuckup.
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this piss doesnt even come close to measuring up to the pisses of Serge and r-n back on netpond in the day
hell this piss doesnt even match the pisses Serge an I had back then
BTW he is off drinking very good wine and enjoying retirement. Had dinner with him last night
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I come from mainstream also and juicy produces guys that produce profit. I don't think he is expecting people to stop doing biz with Xbiz just based on him not going to a show. I think he was making an effort to expose a deal that he thinks he got fucked on. I know that when I'm about to make a deal with someone i consider whether or not I've heard good or bad things about them.That's all fine and dandy but I come from mainstream. We worry about profitability, not popularity. Someone wants to pay outrageous fees for what is like a robot posting on a message board, that's fine. It's not my business. I just don't want to do business with them. That's an unknown variable.
If anyone we do business with cave's because of someone who has a 100,000 plus posts on a message board, the traffic is gone. You don't do business with people like that. You can't rely on them. They're relying on exposure or the whims of someone who lives on a message board, not numbers.
I don't care about self proclaimed internet celebrities or them getting comp's for their friends. I care about margins. I'm sorry, that's business.
That is nothing personal against you.
Take care,
Phil
Its always about profit and believe me I know. I've owned two Publicly traded companies and sold them both for great profits. Again Juicy wouldn't get the Money he does to market if guys weren't making a return off it. He does a lot more then post for companies and also owns a pretty successful mainstream company himself.Comment
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very sad that this skirmish couldn't be worked out between two parties that obviously liked and respected each other at one point in time. the xbiz shows i have attended were a great time and good for biz, they do a good job. every show is uplifted by Juicys attendance. when you walk into a party or venue and see him, you know you are in for a good time and memories will be made. he is engaging, entertaining and helps put people together to get things done. that is the reason why we go to shows, to make deals and have a blast. the way i see it, both parties wanted the same thing: success of the show both financially and socially. i wish you boys could have worked this out and attained your mutual goal. i will miss you Juicy!!!!!Julie Larson
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I come from mainstream also and juicy produces guys that produce profit. I don't think he is expecting people to stop doing biz with Xbiz just based on him not going to a show. I think he was making an effort to expose a deal that he thinks he got fucked on. I know that when I'm about to make a deal with someone i consider whether or not I've heard good or bad things about them.
Its always about profit and believe me I know. I've owned two Publicly traded companies and sold them both for great profits. Again Juicy wouldn't get the Money he does to market if guys weren't making a return off it. He does a lot more then post for companies and also owns a pretty successful mainstream company himself.
hehe Mike dont worry about these litttle trolls , you know me you know what i do heheh doesnt matter what these peeps thinkComment
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Wow, I thought this was all settled and done with. Well, anyways, nice of you to close all the other threads and consolidate your efforts here. With GFY being so slow sometimes it can be a bitch trying to keep up with 4 or 5 threads at once.

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Don't ya just hate it when that happens.Which one of these outsourced services require first class flights and per diem pay for themselves and their friends? I was under the strange assumption, you pay .10 per post? Apparently, you know something else?
Which net conventions have you been to? (Non adult). We might have met.Sean Holland
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Agreed, Serge was the King of piss on the boards, he could work it like no otherthis piss doesnt even come close to measuring up to the pisses of Serge and r-n back on netpond in the day
hell this piss doesnt even match the pisses Serge an I had back then
BTW he is off drinking very good wine and enjoying retirement. Had dinner with him last night
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I wonder how much he will be worth when people realize those "memories" will be shouted from the highest building when he gets pissy or runs out of xanax?? Seems that is THE MOST unprofessional thing I have seen around here in a long fucking time.Comment
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shit my impulse for 50's made me forget bout my abstinence goal i fucked up my yatzee shot
my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died
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my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died
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Thanks for the update juicy.
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just quoting this to bump for the damn rabbit
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next one = whackamole time
i didn't just post this
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