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  • The Demon
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    • Apr 2003
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    #1

    WWE Raw

    Did any of you guys see Raw last night? What an emotional night...A lot of the superstars, including Batista and Benoit broke down crying. Then they had a tribute to Eddie playing the Johnny Cash song. I had tears throughout the whole thing, it was a night I'll never forget..
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  • Th!nk
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2005
    • 6996

    #2
    damn i missed that!!!!
    i hope they would show that again...maybe if i was able to saw that, i would definitely cry my heart out. Eddie has been a good wrestler and a very good entertainer...may he rest in peace!

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    • The Demon
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      • Apr 2003
      • 7336

      #3
      I don't think i've ever had tears for when a celebrity died, until now.. First time in my life, I grew up watching Eddie and he touched my life indirectly..
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      • SykkBoy2
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        • Feb 2001
        • 19969

        #4
        I thought it was a class production...right down to Michaels jobbing to Mysterio....
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        • Maxy
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          • Nov 2005
          • 1858

          #5
          Fuck that sucks

          R.I.P. dude
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          • Ecksent
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            • Nov 2004
            • 1415

            #6
            Originally posted by SykkBoy2
            I thought it was a class production...right down to Michaels jobbing to Mysterio....

            Excataly what I thought. I've been watching wrestling off and on since I was in 5th grade. I never understood that bussiness. As I grew up to see that these guys actually do become friends and are involved in each other's lives is really cool. To see the tributes from guys like Chris Benoit, Ray Mysterio, Batista, and even Triple H was touching to say the least. I'm sure the taping tonight of Smackdown will include much of the same as Raw did last night.
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            • sicone
              Retired
              • Jan 2004
              • 18453

              #7
              They said something about a special on tv tonight about Eddie, I only caught the tail end of the announcement

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              • J-$
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2005
                • 2090

                #8
                I guess this is the worst time to ask, so I will begin by saying im sorry for your loss...


                but you guys still watch wrestling?? I mean the shit sucked before, and now that UFC is on I see no need to watch a staged version of a mano-2-mano... I know it has to do with the story, sorta like a soap-opera or sumthing... I never could understand

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                • MrPinks
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                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1767

                  #9
                  It was a very sad show last night. The only thing that bothered me was Triple H. First of all, I can't stand this guy in the first place but if you listen to what he said last night and listen to what he said on the Owen Hart memorial show, it is almost the same excat thing. Plus, I didn't think it was too appropriate to mention Eddie's "demons". Other than him and maybe his wife, everyone else seemed very sincere.

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                  • The Truth Hurts
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                    • Nov 2002
                    • 15779

                    #10
                    Originally posted by J-$
                    and now that UFC is on I see no need to watch a staged version of a mano-2-mano...
                    ufc is usually pretty fucking boring.
                    90% of the matches (i've seen quite a bit, they show it on INHD all the time.. plus whenever it's on Spike) i've seen it ends up with one guy on top of the other in the missionary position for the entire fight....

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                    • adonthenet
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 16753

                      #11
                      Thats soo sad...
                      R.I.P Eddie!

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                      • emthree
                        Dialer Kingpin
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 10816

                        #12
                        Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
                        ufc is usually pretty fucking boring.
                        90% of the matches (i've seen quite a bit, they show it on INHD all the time.. plus whenever it's on Spike) i've seen it ends up with one guy on top of the other in the missionary position for the entire fight....
                        You rather see a bunch of sweaty,over oiled men pretend fight?

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                        • J-$
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                          • Mar 2005
                          • 2090

                          #13
                          Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
                          ufc is usually pretty fucking boring.
                          90% of the matches (i've seen quite a bit, they show it on INHD all the time.. plus whenever it's on Spike) i've seen it ends up with one guy on top of the other in the missionary position for the entire fight....
                          I guess you are right about that, some are ground fighters and dont want to risk it fighting on their feet, although the missionary style (1st guard) sometimes allows great knockouts. But you are right on that point...however, this is how these fights would turn out in real-life and thats what I like so much about it. It's pretty much a street fight with supervision.

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                          • Fuckin Bill
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                            • Feb 2003
                            • 1020

                            #14
                            Moved out of the US, so I don't get any WWE stuff on TV down here, but I was a big fan off and on since I was like 10.

                            I'm guessing you guys are talking about Eddie Guerrera...What happened? How did he die?

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                            • StuartD
                              Sofa King Band
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 29903

                              #15
                              Originally posted by J-$
                              I guess this is the worst time to ask, so I will begin by saying im sorry for your loss...


                              but you guys still watch wrestling?? I mean the shit sucked before, and now that UFC is on I see no need to watch a staged version of a mano-2-mano... I know it has to do with the story, sorta like a soap-opera or sumthing... I never could understand
                              Wrestling is a soap opera for men. If you've ever seen women get wrapped up in a soap opera, you'll understand how men can get wrapped up in wrestling.

                              Relationships get formed, people hate each other, stories get very involved and there's a lot of emotion given as well as returned.

                              Personally, I haven't watched wrestling in quite some years, but I do remember. It's like watching a soap opera... you want to know who likes who, who hates who, who humiliated who... once you get into it, it's hard to get back out of because each show ends with the "I wonder what will happen next!" feeling... just as soap operas do.

                              And on top of that, you get some violence... whether staged or not, it's still pretty amazing to see. Especially if you've ever seen it live. It's not easy what they do.
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                              • J-$
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                                • Mar 2005
                                • 2090

                                #16
                                You are absolutely right on that point, they are great athletes.
                                Oh well.
                                RIP Eddie Guerrerro

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                                • The Truth Hurts
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                                  • Nov 2002
                                  • 15779

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by emthree
                                  You rather see a bunch of sweaty,over oiled men pretend fight?

                                  http://www.nearlygood.com/video/wrestlingisfake.html

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                                  • Niko Bimini
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                                    • Feb 2004
                                    • 2372

                                    #18
                                    Holy shit!!!

                                    What happened to Eddie??? Haven't watched in a few months.

                                    Sorry to be out of the loop, anyone have a link to a story about what happened to him? I would appreciate it.

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                                    • J-$
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                                      • Mar 2005
                                      • 2090

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
                                      def. a good vid! still does not compare to UFC Ultimate Knockouts, but yea its harder than it looks

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                                      • Jennyfer
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                                        • Sep 2005
                                        • 1708

                                        #20
                                        R.I.P Eddie....no more lie, cheat or steal
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                                        • The Demon
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                                          • Apr 2003
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                                          #21
                                          First of all nobody is trying to compare it to UFC..Wrestling is "Entertainment". But this entertainment is achieved by these guys going out day after day taking bumps and working their asses off to please the fans..Traveling all year, living on the road, it is a hard life and some people dedicate their lives to it because they love the wrestling business.. While the storylines are fake, the bumps they take are NOT. The injuries they incur throughout their career are NOT.. I fully and unconditionally respect what these guys do. Granted some of the guys are really intelligent like Batista, the Rock, Triple H, Stone Cold, Etc, some are not, and this is all they have and they give their lives to it. I came to the USA in 1990 and have been watching Eddie Guerrero since 92 and I feel this is a personal loss to me because I grew up watching and idolizing him, among others. While I don't know the guy personally I can see how much he loved the business and how much of a family man he is. I don't think a wrestler's death has EVER had this much public exposure, but Eddie deserves it...It's a tragic loss and I wish his family the best, and may he rest in peace..
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                                          • Manowar
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                                            • Dec 2003
                                            • 71528

                                            #22
                                            latinooooooo heat

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                                            • rayg69
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                                              • May 2005
                                              • 6

                                              #23
                                              Looking like a heart attack. R.I.P.
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                                              • miss wild
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Oct 2005
                                                • 1304

                                                #24
                                                didn't watched it...that's a very sad news...R.I.P. Eddie

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                                                • bryc
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                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                  • 102

                                                  #25
                                                  http://www.wwe.com

                                                  There's a bunch of clips from last nights show as well as some wrestler interviews that didnt make the show

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                                                  • skoalman
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                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                    • 94

                                                    #26
                                                    http://www.prowrestling.com/news.php.../articles/news

                                                    After the untimely passing of Eddie Guerrero, WWE and the entire sports-entertainment community is steel reeling from the devastating loss of a champion. The initial autopsy reports on Guerrero have come in. WWE.com spoke with Eddie?s widow, Vickie Guerrero, earlier today.

                                                    ?It was heart failure. It was from his past ? the drinking and the drug abuse. They found signs of heart disease. She (the examiner) said that the blood vessels were very worn and narrow, and that just showed all the abuse from the scheduling of work and his past. And Eddie just worked out like crazy all the time. It made his heart grow bigger and work harder and the vessels were getting smaller, and that?s what caused the heart failure. He went into a deep sleep.

                                                    As soon as they saw his heart, they saw the lining of his heart already had the heart disease. There was no trauma, and Eddie hadn?t hurt himself in any way. It answered a lot of questions. I knew Eddie wasn?t feeling very good for the last week. He was home and kept saying he wasn?t feeling good and we thought it was just ?road tired.? So we thought he just had to rest. It answered a lot of my questions, too, because he was just so exhausted. She said it was normal because the heart was working so hard.

                                                    When he didn?t call me last night and the night before I knew it was for real, because he would call me every night. I miss his phone calls. I cried through the whole thing (last night).

                                                    I loved his laugh. His laugh was the best.

                                                    We just celebrated his four-year sobriety last Thursday. We just thought we had life by the handful. We thought we had it all figured out. He worked so hard to make a better life for us.

                                                    I?m just overwhelmed by how people are coming out. It?s touched my heart a lot.

                                                    Everybody was just in awe last night in how beautifully everything was put together.

                                                    All my life was wrestling. All he did was take care of them and live for that. And I don?t know what to do now.?

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                                                    • Scott McD
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                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                      • 67792

                                                      #27
                                                      Just watching some of the clips now. Sad...


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                                                      • Kevsh
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                                                        • Dec 2004
                                                        • 8619

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by emthree
                                                        You rather see a bunch of sweaty,over oiled men pretend fight?
                                                        Apparently you missed The Undertaker throwing Mick Foley 20 feet off the top of a cage onto an announcer's table, Foley being carted out on a stretcher, refusing to quit so he got up, walked back, scaled the cage only to have the dead man choke slam him through the top of the cage onto the wooden canvas 15 feet below ... and then, after 15 minutes more of fighting be power-bombed onto thumbtacks.

                                                        Yes, it's staged, but these guys really do get hurt.

                                                        Anyhow, whatever your beliefs or feelings about the "sport" Eddie was a very popular guy and it's always a tragedy when someone so young passes on.

                                                        btw, for the curious, it was a massive heart failure likely due to the drugs and alcohol he was addicted to up until a few years ago - he went clean, but apparently too late.

                                                        Edit: Oops, missed the explanation on his death a few posts above.

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                                                        • gecko
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                                                          • Jun 2002
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                                                          #29
                                                          Yea my eyes were watery
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                                                          • Translation
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                                                            • Jul 2005
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by The Demon
                                                            Did any of you guys see Raw last night? What an emotional night...A lot of the superstars, including Batista and Benoit broke down crying. Then they had a tribute to Eddie playing the Johnny Cash song. I had tears throughout the whole thing, it was a night I'll never forget..
                                                            grow up, idiot.

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                                                            • emthree
                                                              Dialer Kingpin
                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                              • 10816

                                                              #31
                                                              Never said it was all fake, but half of the shit certainly is.
                                                              If you're going to hit someone, hit them. Dont throw fake punches and over act every chance you get. Just my two cents, believe what you want.

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                                                              • Spunky
                                                                I need a beer
                                                                • Jun 2002
                                                                • 133978

                                                                #32
                                                                Regardless of how fake it is.Wrestling is a form of entertainment for millions of people.Kids idolize the wrestlers.A real shame at such a young age ,leaving a wife and 3 kids..RIP Eddie

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                                                                • BIGTYMER
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                                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                                  • 17066

                                                                  #33
                                                                  It surely was an emotional episode...

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                                                                  • digga
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                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                    • 582

                                                                    #34
                                                                    does anyonehave the raw episode?

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                                                                    • DavieVegas
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                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                      • 6117

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by skoalman
                                                                      http://www.prowrestling.com/news.php.../articles/news

                                                                      After the untimely passing of Eddie Guerrero, WWE and the entire sports-entertainment community is steel reeling from the devastating loss of a champion. The initial autopsy reports on Guerrero have come in. WWE.com spoke with Eddie?s widow, Vickie Guerrero, earlier today.

                                                                      ?It was heart failure. It was from his past ? the drinking and the drug abuse. They found signs of heart disease. She (the examiner) said that the blood vessels were very worn and narrow, and that just showed all the abuse from the scheduling of work and his past. And Eddie just worked out like crazy all the time. It made his heart grow bigger and work harder and the vessels were getting smaller, and that?s what caused the heart failure. He went into a deep sleep.

                                                                      As soon as they saw his heart, they saw the lining of his heart already had the heart disease. There was no trauma, and Eddie hadn?t hurt himself in any way. It answered a lot of questions. I knew Eddie wasn?t feeling very good for the last week. He was home and kept saying he wasn?t feeling good and we thought it was just ?road tired.? So we thought he just had to rest. It answered a lot of my questions, too, because he was just so exhausted. She said it was normal because the heart was working so hard.

                                                                      When he didn?t call me last night and the night before I knew it was for real, because he would call me every night. I miss his phone calls. I cried through the whole thing (last night).

                                                                      I loved his laugh. His laugh was the best.

                                                                      We just celebrated his four-year sobriety last Thursday. We just thought we had life by the handful. We thought we had it all figured out. He worked so hard to make a better life for us.

                                                                      I?m just overwhelmed by how people are coming out. It?s touched my heart a lot.

                                                                      Everybody was just in awe last night in how beautifully everything was put together.

                                                                      All my life was wrestling. All he did was take care of them and live for that. And I don?t know what to do now.?
                                                                      Ya my cousin is a really big wrestling fanatic and this was a devastating blow to him and his buddies. I also can understand how he died. I first thought it was steroids or maybe he starting using drugs again but after i read the autopsy report it makes sense. I wish him and his family the best because he died at a young age. He was only 38. Smackdown on friday is having a tribute toh im as well just like raw did.
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                                                                      • Vitasoy
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                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                        • 58202

                                                                        #36
                                                                        May he rest in peace


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                                                                        • Kanon
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                                                                          • May 2005
                                                                          • 91

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by emthree
                                                                          Never said it was all fake, but half of the shit certainly is.
                                                                          If you're going to hit someone, hit them. Dont throw fake punches and over act every chance you get. Just my two cents, believe what you want.
                                                                          You know it's funny, but most people don't even know how to take a fall without knocking themselves out, let alone have ever been in a fight, let alone could even take a punch.

                                                                          So wrestlers are supposed to take straight punches, 7 days a week year round, otherwise they're "fake"? lol

                                                                          And there's always the homo card trying to be pulled. According to these people, most of the world is gay. Football? Oh noes, watching big bulky men "tackle" each other! Soccer? Oh noes, watching atheletic men play with balls wearing short nylons! Maybe you guys should just come out of the closet rather than bashing someone based on what he views as entertainment value.

                                                                          People here are celebrating the life, and the sadness of a great person. I got to meet Eddie at an ECW show a long time ago and he was one of the people who would shake your hand and pay appreciation to the fans. He had a troubled life and made a great comeback, one of the great stories of overcoming adversity, and his past caught up with him while he was reaping his rewards while in the prime of his life.

                                                                          Truly one of the greats. RIP Eddie.

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                                                                          • Raiders71
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                                                                            • Nov 2005
                                                                            • 22

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Orale!!!!!

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                                                                            • je_rome
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                                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                                              • 6846

                                                                              #39
                                                                              that was very emotional moment for the WWE
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                                                                              • The Demon
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                                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                                • 7336

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Yea, i'll grow up, fucking moron..
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                                                                                • flashfire
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                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                  • 13098

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  maybe these guys should stop taking roids...unless they want to keep dropping dead at 35

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                                                                                  • xclusive
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                                                                                    • Apr 2004
                                                                                    • 35218

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    May he RIP he was a hell of an entertainer

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                                                                                    • reed_4
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                                                                                      • Jul 2005
                                                                                      • 9640

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      viva la raza.... IM YOUR PAPI!!!! RIP Eddie Guerrero.

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                                                                                      • gideongallery
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                                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                                        • 7082

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Kevsh
                                                                                        Apparently you missed The Undertaker throwing Mick Foley 20 feet off the top of a cage onto an announcer's table, Foley being carted out on a stretcher, refusing to quit so he got up, walked back, scaled the cage only to have the dead man choke slam him through the top of the cage onto the wooden canvas 15 feet below ... and then, after 15 minutes more of fighting be power-bombed onto thumbtacks.

                                                                                        Yes, it's staged, but these guys really do get hurt.
                                                                                        According to his book the first fall was part of the show. The table was breakway, and there was padding around and underneath the table. The chokeslam thru the roof of the cage was not supposed to happen. In fact the chair that was there fell down and drove three off his teeth thru his top lip and knocked him senseless. The 15 minutes of fighting was taker giving foley time to recover so they could finish the match as planned.

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                                                                                        • MikeyFingaz
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                                                                                          • Aug 2005
                                                                                          • 1569

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          as someone who has personally trained with dan "the beast" severn a few times, i can tell you that he said to me personally that he has gotten hurt worse doing pro wrestling than he ever did competing in the ufc... those of you who might not know, dan severn was one of the original ufc competitors and a former chapion of ufc as well...

                                                                                          ... im not saying wrestling is better... actually i like both about the same... true the ufc is more boring these days (excluding fights like forrest griffin vs. stephan bonner)...
                                                                                          but its two seperate things... long live both the ufc and the wwe.

                                                                                          ...rip eddie, you were a truly great performer.

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