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  • adultseo
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    • Jun 2005
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    Time Travel & Black Holes

    The latest discoveries show that gravity has an effect on time. The stronger gravity is, the slower time will go. The closer to the center of the earth, the slower time will be.

    At the surface of a black hole time stands still which would mean that if you would enter a black hole all eternity of the whole universe would pass you by in one instant!
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    • adultseo
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        • Dirty F
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          • Jul 2001
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          #3
          Originally posted by adultseo
          At the surface of a black hole time stands still which would mean that if you would enter a black hole all eternity of the whole universe would pass you by in one instant!
          Thats not a fact.

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            • ztik
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              • Aug 2001
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              #4
              Thats simply a theory.
              .

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                • Dirty F
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                  • Jul 2001
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                  #5
                  Originally posted by ztik
                  Thats simply a theory.
                  Thats what i said.

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                    • adultseo
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                      #6
                      Well, according to Scientific American of this month it can be asumed to be true based on the latest gravitational discoveries.

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                        • DWB
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                          • Jul 2003
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                          #7
                          Ohhhhh... I thought this was going to be a thread and time travel and black pussy. My bad.

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                            • NETbilling
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                              I will test it next weekend.

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                                • adultseo
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                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by NetBilling
                                  I will test it next weekend.

                                  Mitch
                                  Einstein noticed the gravitational effect on time already, he noticed the time difrence in clocks in the attic and in the basement. Aldough just a few nanoseconds, imagine the time difrence 10.000 miles below the sea surface.

                                  It would save aprox. 0.001 second per period that the few nanoseconds are measured in (which I do not know). If the period would be 1 second, then it would be possible to travel time at a rate of 14 hours per year.

                                  If you would considder that it might be that something would treathen earth in 10.000 years, it would be possible to save 5833 days by having a research/operation centre at that depth.
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                                    • GatorB
                                      The Demon & 12clicks
                                      • Oct 2001
                                      • 18208
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by adultseo
                                      Einstein noticed the gravitational effect on time already, he noticed the time difrence in clocks in the attic and in the basement. Aldough just a few nanoseconds, imagine the time difrence 10.000 miles below the sea surface.
                                      You do realize that the earth is 8000 miles in diameter. And even if it was 10,000 miles to the center of the earth time wouldn't change that much. Jupiters gravity is stronger than Earth's and it's effect on time is negligible.

                                      It would save aprox. 0.001 second per period that the few nanoseconds are measured in (which I do not know). If the period would be 1 second, then it would be possible to travel time at a rate of 14 hours per year.

                                      If you would considder that it might be that something would treathen earth in 10.000 years, it would be possible to save 5833 days by having a research/operation centre at that depth.

                                      Drugs are bad.

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                                        • Donkey Punch
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                                          • Jun 2007
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                                          #11
                                          lions, tigers and morons oh my !

                                          it affects mechanical time pieces because of gravity...

                                          you're not going to fucking age slower, time travel or no shit like that



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                                            • Dirty F
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                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 59204
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by adultseo
                                              Einstein noticed the gravitational effect on time already, he noticed the time difrence in clocks in the attic and in the basement. Aldough just a few nanoseconds, imagine the time difrence 10.000 miles below the sea surface.

                                              It would save aprox. 0.001 second per period that the few nanoseconds are measured in (which I do not know). If the period would be 1 second, then it would be possible to travel time at a rate of 14 hours per year.

                                              If you would considder that it might be that something would treathen earth in 10.000 years, it would be possible to save 5833 days by having a research/operation centre at that depth.
                                              Man, you really should stop talking like this are facts because what you are saying is just as real as flying elephants. Sure, its possible but very very very fucking unlikely. And talking like if its a fact makes you look a bit...uhm...like youre on crack.

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                                                • GatorB
                                                  The Demon & 12clicks
                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                  • 18208
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by adultseo
                                                  The latest discoveries show that gravity has an effect on time. The stronger gravity is, the slower time will go. The closer to the center of the earth, the slower time will be.!
                                                  Oh I just found this

                                                  "The force of gravity you feel standing on the surface of Earth has to do with two things. They are

                                                  1. Your distance from the centre of the Earth, R
                                                  2. The mass enclosed within the radius R, M(R)

                                                  Point 2 is actually quite subtle. It is only mass inside the radius at which you are at which affects the force of gravity you feel. That is not immediately obvious perhaps, but there is a neat theorem which undergraduate Physics majors go through which proves it (at least in the case of a spherically symmetric object).

                                                  So, if you tunneled through the Earth to the centre, right at R=0 there would be no mass enclosed, so there is no force of gravity. Once you go above the highest mountain peak all the mass of the Earth is interior to your position and so the mass no longer changes with radius and the 1/R2 law directly applies. In between those two extremes there is a play-off. As you move further from the centre of the Earth the gravity falls like 1/R2, but the mass enclosed within R also increases slightly, so the net change in gravity will be something different.
                                                  "

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                                                    • Donkey Punch
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                                                      #14
                                                      and if you did go faster than light from here to where ever and back, no matter what time is time.. you're just traveling faster through it. More likely to hit something and die real quick

                                                      lol, theories.
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                                                        • adultseo
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                                                          Did you know that light can not live for the time that we measure it in when we see it comming from distant galaxies 10 billion lightyears away?

                                                          When it travels at the speed of light it may cost the light itself just a week to get here, we just notice it in slowmotion because of our speed.
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                                                            • adultseo
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                                                              #16
                                                              Some cosmic rays also experience spectacular time warps. These particles move so close to the speed of light that, from their point of view, they cross the galaxy in minutes, even though in Earth's frame of reference they seem to take tens of thousands of years.
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                                                                • adultseo
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by adultseo
                                                                  Did you know that light can not live for the time that we measure it in when we see it comming from distant galaxies 10 billion lightyears away?

                                                                  When it travels at the speed of light it may cost the light itself just a week to get here, we just notice it in slowmotion because of our speed.
                                                                  This was incorrect, the article I read in Scientific American was talking about particles moving at the speed of light not light itself.
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                                                                    • MattO
                                                                      The O is for Oohhh
                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                      • 10861
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by adultseo
                                                                      Einstein noticed the gravitational effect on time already, he noticed the time difrence in clocks in the attic and in the basement. Aldough just a few nanoseconds, imagine the time difrence 10.000 miles below the sea surface.

                                                                      So Einstein had a clock that precise back in his day? Methinks not.

                                                                      Not until the late 70's were scientists able to physically test Einstein's theory by sending a hydrogen maser clock into space, a clock so accurate that it would only lose 1 second in 3 billion years, matched with one on Earth.

                                                                      Einstein used MATH not a clock in the fucking attic.

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                                                                        • GatorB
                                                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                          • 18208
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by adultseo
                                                                          Did you know that light can not live for the time that we measure it in when we see it comming from distant galaxies 10 billion lightyears away?
                                                                          WTF light is not alive.

                                                                          When it travels at the speed of light it may cost the light itself just a week to get here, we just notice it in slowmotion because of our speed.
                                                                          QUIT SMOKING CRACK. "cost" the light? WTF is "cost the light"

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                                                                            • MattO
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                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                              • 10861
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Hay guys I just read this magazine in my gynecologist's waiting room and now I understand what thousands of scientists in theoretical physics have been working on for the last 100 years.

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                                                                                • bobby666
                                                                                  boots are my religion
                                                                                  • Nov 2005
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  i will dig a hole and will see....

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                                                                                    • everblazin
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                                                                                      This thread makes me lol, some of you people are clueless

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                                                                                        • collegeboobies
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                                                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                                                          • 3644
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                                                                                          Man, you really should stop talking like this are facts because what you are saying is just as real as flying elephants. Sure, its possible but very very very fucking unlikely. And talking like if its a fact makes you look a bit...uhm...like youre on crack.

                                                                                          All physics "facts" have to start out with some guy saying it on a forum.. some type of "forum"

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                                                                                            • Dirty F
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                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                              • 59204
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by MattO
                                                                                              So Einstein had a clock that precise back in his day? Methinks not.

                                                                                              Not until the late 70's were scientists able to physically test Einstein's theory by sending a hydrogen maser clock into space, a clock so accurate that it would only lose 1 second in 3 billion years, matched with one on Earth.

                                                                                              Einstein used MATH not a clock in the fucking attic.
                                                                                              Yeah no shit. Its funny, this guy tells this all like he knows a lot about the subject but in the meantime he's talking more out of his ass than Bush in his speeches.

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                                                                                                • royaljelly2
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                                                                                                  i've never been so sure about this whole black hole thing

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                                                                                                    • KILL_FRENZY
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                                                                                                      that's an interesting theory

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                                                                                                        • Brad
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                                                                                                          Originally posted by adultseo
                                                                                                          Well, according to Scientific American of this month it can be asumed to be true based on the latest gravitational discoveries.

                                                                                                          That makes a lot of sense. Last I checked, the purpose of science was to prove beyond a doubt things are either true or false, not to make assumptions. I guess science is going the way of religion.
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                                                                                                            • Jimmy Rock
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                                                                                                              The black hole is real it's right here among us!



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                                                                                                                • D
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by adultseo
                                                                                                                  The latest discoveries show that gravity has an effect on time. The stronger gravity is, the slower time will go. The closer to the center of the earth, the slower time will be.
                                                                                                                  I agree with the general theory you're stating here - gravity does seem to affect time. Nothing new there, really.

                                                                                                                  There was a cool GFY thread on a time machine that someone invented last week:

                                                                                                                  http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=739925

                                                                                                                  But what you just said here does not follow.

                                                                                                                  The closer to the center of earth you get, the less gravitational force is exerted on you in a single direction. e.g. by the time you theoretically get to the center of the earth you're experiencing weightlessness. The effects of gravity are greatest on the surface of the planet - right where we're standing.

                                                                                                                  Originally posted by adultseo
                                                                                                                  At the surface of a black hole time stands still which would mean that if you would enter a black hole all eternity of the whole universe would pass you by in one instant!
                                                                                                                  Keep in mind that this is all theory. Not fact - as just about anything dealing with Black Holes.... including what they are.

                                                                                                                  And what do you mean by "surface"? the event horizon? The actual "surface" of the stellar object known as a black hole is generally considered to be a geometric point - much as the universe was prior to the Big Bang.... exerting such a powerful force that gravity has sucked it into itself ad infinitum. By what you wrote, I think you meant the event horizon...

                                                                                                                  Assuming you mean event horizon, there are many theories on this... the most practical of which, imho, deals with any time effects being only visible to the outside viewer.... falling through it ourselves, we wouldn't notice anything but our bodies being dissimulated atom by atom as we approach the mass - spaghettified - and eventually have our body compacted inside a space that's infinitely small - along with whatever else has fallen in with us.

                                                                                                                  Cool - maybe... but I also think very painful (or not painful at all... I really have no idea what atomic dissimulation feels like), and not memorable as we're rather dead after it all - and lost to the outside world.
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