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  • rapmaster
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2007
    • 1576

    #1

    Buying PR domains

    Say I buy a domain that has a PR 3 but I'm just buying the domain - when I put up a new site will the PR go back to shit or will it maintain (provided the new pages are optimized well)?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_P226
  • rapmaster
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2007
    • 1576

    #2
    anyone do this before?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_P226

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    • baddog
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2001
      • 107089

      #3
      Is the content going to be the same?

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      • rapmaster
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2007
        • 1576

        #4
        Originally posted by baddog
        Is the content going to be the same?
        Same category of content perhaps, but not exactly the same - I was basically thinking of buying sites with good pr and then putting up my own (related but different) site.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_P226

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        • baddog
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2001
          • 107089

          #5
          Well, since the PR is gained from back links, you will want the content to pretty well match the anchor text from those backlinks. Then it should be okay.

          Probably won't increase for a while since it is new content, but should not drop.

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          • rapmaster
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2007
            • 1576

            #6
            Originally posted by baddog
            Well, since the PR is gained from back links, you will want the content to pretty well match the anchor text from those backlinks. Then it should be okay.

            Probably won't increase for a while since it is new content, but should not drop.
            Thanks for the tip
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_P226

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            • madawgz
              8.8.8.8
              • Mar 2006
              • 30509

              #7
              the pr should stay the same as long as the backlinks stay
              TAEMDLRMSKRJIXMRLSMRJ.

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              • baddog
                So Fucking Banned
                • Apr 2001
                • 107089

                #8
                Originally posted by madawgz
                the pr should stay the same as long as the backlinks stay
                even if they are not relevant?

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                • madawgz
                  8.8.8.8
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 30509

                  #9
                  Originally posted by baddog
                  even if they are not relevant?
                  yeah the PR should stay the same...but it doesnt guarantee google will show you love
                  TAEMDLRMSKRJIXMRLSMRJ.

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                  • baddog
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Apr 2001
                    • 107089

                    #10
                    Originally posted by madawgz
                    yeah the PR should stay the same...but it doesnt guarantee google will show you love
                    wrong again grasshopper

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                    • en21
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                      • May 2006
                      • 2640

                      #11
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                      • KimJI
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                        • May 2007
                        • 1839

                        #12
                        Originally posted by baddog
                        Well, since the PR is gained from back links, you will want the content to pretty well match the anchor text from those backlinks. Then it should be okay.

                        Probably won't increase for a while since it is new content, but should not drop.
                        PR is not based on Back-links alone. And the rest you said is wrong as well.

                        If you buy a domain and slap a new site on it, your site will be evaluated depending how fast the Bots have indexed the whole site again. So one the key thing to do when you do a stunt like this, is to have a site map up and running.

                        Many times the bots just visit you for a few pages. IF those pages dont exists, it will be seen as a 404 error and be penalized in the next SE updates. So make sure you have a redirect that takes the user to the Sitemap instead of the 404 page or front-page - that way you will limit your loss of total amount of pages indexed on that domain.

                        The content don't really matter that much, as long as you have at least the same about of content you should not see any big changes, unless its not accessible for the bots.

                        Changing host or IP will not affect the PR or position either
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                        • flashfreak
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 4396

                          #13
                          backlinks are important but domain age is important too... I saw sites from '97 - '99 with PR5 and they had less then 5 backlinks
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                          • d-null
                            . . .
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 13724

                            #14
                            It is a shame that google uses domain age as a criteria. New rapidly updated, edited, and modified domains should be more relevant than a site that is just getting bonus pr due to the fact that the domain was bought a long time ago.

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                            • everblazin
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                              • Jan 2007
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                              #15
                              Yeh thats very true, by the way how often does google PR update? I heard its live and only what is shown on toolbars and pr checkers etc is updated over time. Anyone know?

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                              • KimJI
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2007
                                • 1839

                                #16
                                Originally posted by everblazin
                                Yeh thats very true, by the way how often does google PR update? I heard its live and only what is shown on toolbars and pr checkers etc is updated over time. Anyone know?

                                General answer is that the Google index(what desides your placement) is updated live, and the PR is on a timer.

                                There are some exceptions to the rule, but not anything big
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                                • everblazin
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2007
                                  • 259

                                  #17
                                  Aha, because I've had sites get PR in under 2 months and some that haven't in 4 months (with pretty much the same ammount of backlinks etc)

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                                  • c-lo
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2005
                                    • 925

                                    #18
                                    Just thought I'd add that if you have to redirect pages, make sure you do a 301 redirect & not a meta refresh...I'd recommend doing it through .htaccess. Here's a link if you don't know what I mean.

                                    Also, if the content remains similar (same niche) and the backlinks remain in place, you shouldn't have a problem with losing placement, imo. If anything, you may experience a temporary drop as the site is revised & reindexed by the bots...but nothing permanent, even if you do change it up quite a bit.

                                    I've never bought domains with established PR, but I have completely reconstructed pages without loss of placement in the SERPs. All in all, I'd only do it if I were targeting (quite) similar terms or phrases.

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                                    • polish_aristocrat
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jul 2002
                                      • 40377

                                      #19
                                      good thread, I also didnt know what happened when you buy PR domains...
                                      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                      • KingK7
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jun 2002
                                        • 6372

                                        #20
                                        What's a good & free tool for building sitemaps? For sites over 500 pages..

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                                        • KimJI
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2007
                                          • 1839

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by KingK7
                                          What's a good & free tool for building sitemaps? For sites over 500 pages..
                                          I use XML but that means you have to add a bit of code to every page you have, wich can take time.

                                          xml-sitemaps (dot) com .. im to new to be allowed to link yet
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                                          • rapmaster
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2007
                                            • 1576

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by KimJI

                                            So one the key thing to do when you do a stunt like this, is to have a site map up and running.

                                            Many times the bots just visit you for a few pages. IF those pages dont exists, it will be seen as a 404 error and be penalized in the next SE updates. So make sure you have a redirect that takes the user to the Sitemap instead of the 404 page or front-page - that way you will limit your loss of total amount of pages indexed on that domain.
                                            Thanks, this is a very helpful tip
                                            Last edited by rapmaster; 06-05-2007, 12:00 AM.
                                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_P226

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                                            • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
                                              (felis madjewicus)
                                              • Jul 2006
                                              • 20368

                                              #23
                                              i notice alot of domains (mostly mainstream) that hit the droplists with pr5 - pr6 rankings. now say you were to buy one of these domains, how hard would it be to maintain that pr? how quickly would google recognize nd penalize you for changing content type of the page? and exactly how does domain age affect pr?

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                                              • Chio
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 8002

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by baddog
                                                wrong again grasshopper
                                                You probably wouldn't think it is possible to get a pr6 on a page with an image only too.

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                                                • baddog
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                  • 107089

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Chio
                                                  You probably wouldn't think it is possible to get a pr6 on a page with an image only too.
                                                  Why do you say that?

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                                                  • Chio
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                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 8002

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                    Why do you say that?
                                                    Based on previous posts of yours regarding anything SEO. So you do think it's possible?

                                                    I seo'd my hair yesterday and today it's pr7!
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                                                    • baddog
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                      • 107089

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Chio
                                                      Based on previous posts of yours regarding anything SEO. So you do think it's possible?
                                                      Anything is possible.

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                                                      • baddog
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                        • 107089

                                                        #28
                                                        likely is another story

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                                                        • Chio
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                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                          • 8002

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                          likely is another story
                                                          So you don't think it's likely then?

                                                          I seo'd my hair yesterday and today it's pr7!
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                                                          • baddog
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                            • 107089

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Chio
                                                            So you don't think it's likely then?
                                                            I don't think it is the norm.

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                                                            • Chio
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                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 8002

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                              I don't think it is the norm.
                                                              Why not?

                                                              I seo'd my hair yesterday and today it's pr7!
                                                              RIP Texas Dreams

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                                                              • baddog
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                • 107089

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Chio
                                                                Why not?
                                                                ummm, because the average webmaster can't get above a PR3.

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                                                                • Chio
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                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 8002

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                  ummm, because the average webmaster can't get above a PR3.
                                                                  Forget the average webmaster. I am asking you. Taking what you know of how google works can you tell me if it's possible. If you do think it's possible, how? if you don't... why?

                                                                  It's a hobby of mine to dispel google myths and SEO myths in general. I'm interested in what you think on this as it appears from your posts that you think you know a lot about SEO and search engines.

                                                                  I seo'd my hair yesterday and today it's pr7!
                                                                  RIP Texas Dreams

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                                                                  • Chio
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 8002

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by madawgz
                                                                    the pr should stay the same as long as the backlinks stay
                                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                                    even if they are not relevant?
                                                                    Originally posted by madawgz
                                                                    yeah the PR should stay the same...but it doesnt guarantee google will show you love
                                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                                    wrong again grasshopper
                                                                    Originally posted by Chio
                                                                    You probably wouldn't think it is possible to get a pr6 on a page with an image only too.
                                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                                    Why do you say that?
                                                                    Maybe using multi quotes from this thread you'll see what I am getting at?

                                                                    I seo'd my hair yesterday and today it's pr7!
                                                                    RIP Texas Dreams

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                                                                    • Chio
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                      • 8002

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I'll give you a hint... madawgs isn't wrong. Grasshopper.

                                                                      I seo'd my hair yesterday and today it's pr7!
                                                                      RIP Texas Dreams

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                                                                      • baddog
                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                        • 107089

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Chio
                                                                        Maybe using multi quotes from this thread you'll see what I am getting at?
                                                                        There are exceptions to the rule, and to be honest, I don't have to prove jack to you.

                                                                        Don't you have a bunch of people to mislead?

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                                                                        • baddog
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                          • 107089

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Chio
                                                                          I'll give you a hint... madawgs isn't wrong. Grasshopper.
                                                                          I disagree. If your content is not consistent with the anchor text leading to it, it is not going to have the same value.

                                                                          Ergo, your pr will decrease if the content on the new site is not at least in the same ballpark.

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                                                                          • Chio
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                            • 8002

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                                                            There are exceptions to the rule, and to be honest, I don't have to prove jack to you.

                                                                            Don't you have a bunch of people to mislead?
                                                                            Mislead? About what? This should be good

                                                                            My point of opening up this dialog with you was to show you don't know what you are talking about as your replies in this thread demonstrate.

                                                                            I seo'd my hair yesterday and today it's pr7!
                                                                            RIP Texas Dreams

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                                                                            • edgeprod
                                                                              Permanently Gone
                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                              • 10019

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                                              Don't you have a bunch of people to mislead?
                                                                              Yes, the guy who gets pages with just IMAGES on them to PR6 is CLEARLY the one who is misleading people about his SEO skills.

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