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Originally posted by goBigtime
I retract what I said up there now... I don't think 20% is enough, but then again I am dumb and don't understand it yet (because Joe hasn't properly conveyed his message to the public yet).. maybe as Joe clears things up more and more it will start to make more sense.
With my undertsanding of it right now, I would say that a "FAIR" deal would be 60% Joe, 40% guy in charge of design & marketing/pr ideas & implementation. But I think 50/50 for a completely new startup (new programs, new paysites) would be the best deal for everyone involved. From what my slow google-ban-filled brain is able to comprehend so far.
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Maybe a 50/50 would be nice however there 3 people on my side, including myself, who all have money into this (plus i have my time). Im not saying it is a lot of money.
There is a lot of other aspects to the affiliate program which i am not about to share on the board and because of you're ignorance i would never tell you.
You're also missing the value added aspect to the DVD Era site my friend. Lets see if i can spell it out for you. Webmasters get cross-selling + recurring payouts on any orders. Yes we could not use the affiliate program, yes we could work out a better deal like 50/50 but if i was interested in that i would have posted that deal instead.
Would you Rather the 25-35K/year a designer makes + 35-45k/year your sales rep makes? or would you rather 20% of the entire pie of what it is you're selling if you knew it would sell well.
Maybe it is my fault for not wanting to go into exact details of what it is i am doing because someone might copy the idea or implement it on their affil program.
I dont mind talking details but only to those who are really interested and not just fucking around to get their free wool GFY jacket.
As for your other posts,
"I'm not saying shit about how your program may not be legit, or that you would clip money from people or not pay people. I'm sure your an honest person - even though I don't know you (I give everyone the benefit of the doubt to start) . I don't just start randomly bashing peoples reputation like that Joe. remember, It was YOU who wanted to come out and call me a thief and a liar without knowing shit about me - just because I stated I could do something that you yourself admitted (in this thread) that you cannot do "
You're completely right, i never said i could and i will never promise anyone that i can do something i cannot do. You started out by offering people to get them 1 keyword first placement in SE's for their domain and completely twisted it around by the end of the thread. Atleast i hold true as to what i had originally posted.
"Joe, I never said or suggested "Bullshit!".
If anything, I suggested "Tell me more!" by asking you to make your offer clearer."
Probably would have if i didnt head you off
"But COME ON man, I don't want to get in a pissing match with you. Let's just stick to your offer here. I know you are being blinded by the critisizim here, but I am actually trying to HELP you here in making your offer more clear to people.. becase as-was, it was an invitation for a flame-fest (though maybe that happened anyway)"
It was never about a pissing match my friend. I dare you to go post your 1 Keyword Google ranking offer on
http://www.webmasterworld.com and lets see what they have to say about it.
"What I was saying about the billing cut up is just SMART BUSINESS. It would be in the best interest of whoever is going to do this with you to get the billing cuts setup properly, directly from the processor to eliminate it from becoming an issue later on. "
The problem with that is this, what if bandwidth costs are up for the month and the amount of $ earned in sales is the same. So we take the hit on the bandwidth and the other partner gets off free from it?
Come on now, we're not talking about a webmaster referral service here partnership i am offering.. this is a real partnership.
joe