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  • alan-l
    Confirmed User
    • May 2003
    • 2477
    #1

    ampland/worldsex passes oversold?

    It came to my attention ampland/worldsex passes are doing really weird. They're reviewing less than 50% of galleries, and the few they effectively review are rejected in an 1/10 basis, because of "too much links" (I'm talking the same templates they found OK to list a couple months ago) or, if you've just a couple links they tell you "nice gallery but I won't list it because I'll list other" or crap like that. I tried to contact them by mail but they aren't answering, so I'd like to know if anyone is having the same troubles. Someone said in this board they're overselling, but I didn't believe it at that time since our galleries were frequently listed. Now, I find weird to have 1 gallery listed per month, guess we won't renew, which is crap since we were doing fine before this, so I'd like if it's just us or this is something happening to other webmasters as well

    well, maybe just ranting, but I'm kinda pissed off, specially at the lack of answers from them
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    • Fucksakes
      Shit... Fuck! What the Hell?
      • Dec 2003
      • 7567
      #2
      sig spot alot of paid spots are over priced

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        • Citizen Cain
          A woman trapped in a man's body
          • Sep 2002
          • 426
          #3
          its because your galleries are shite.

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            • Machete_
              WINNING!
              • Oct 2002
              • 14579
              #4
              one of my friends payed for a thumbzilla pass - its is the WORSE crap ever..
              only a average of ~4000 hits to the gallery a day.... (GALLERY - NOT sponsor)

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                • wedouglas
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 5921
                  #5
                  Same problem here. I got the same decline reason every time. I used to get galleries listed 3 times a week when it was free but partner only. I cancelled mine a while back.

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                    • Sly
                      Let's do some business!
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 31379
                      #6
                      When I was submitting this spring my World Sex pass was great. I was being listed 25 out of 30 submissions. Then towards the end I started to get the "your gallery is good, but I like others better today" message. I stopped submitting altogether shortly after but just started again, so I guess I'll find out soon.
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                        • alan-l
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                          • May 2003
                          • 2477
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Citizen Cain
                          its because your galleries are shite.
                          well, they use to list that "shite" quite frequently, Mr. Mongoloid

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                            • SomeCreep
                              :glugglug
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 26118
                              #8
                              Originally posted by alan-l
                              It came to my attention ampland/worldsex passes are doing really weird. They're reviewing less than 50% of galleries, and the few they effectively review are rejected in an 1/10 basis, because of "too much links" (I'm talking the same templates they found OK to list a couple months ago) or, if you've just a couple links they tell you "nice gallery but I won't list it because I'll list other" or crap like that. I tried to contact them by mail but they aren't answering, so I'd like to know if anyone is having the same troubles. Someone said in this board they're overselling, but I didn't believe it at that time since our galleries were frequently listed. Now, I find weird to have 1 gallery listed per month, guess we won't renew, which is crap since we were doing fine before this, so I'd like if it's just us or this is something happening to other webmasters as well

                              well, maybe just ranting, but I'm kinda pissed off, specially at the lack of answers from them
                              Let me put things in perspective for you. You are paying for your galleries to be reviewed. You are not paying for guaranteed listings. I do not believe anywhere in their terms do they state they will review 100% of your galleries. If you say they are reviewing 50% of your galleries, then that is what you paid for, so you should be happy.

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                                • Doctor Dre
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jan 2001
                                  • 51692
                                  #9
                                  I can't tell cauz I haven't re-bought it for the last 2-3 months ... it slowly turned into total shit.
                                  Originally posted by rayadp05
                                  I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                    • Doctor Dre
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 51692
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                      Let me put things in perspective for you. You are paying for your galleries to be reviewed. You are not paying for guaranteed listings. I do not believe anywhere in their terms do they state they will review 100% of your galleries. If you say they are reviewing 50% of your galleries, then that is what you paid for, so you should be happy.
                                      Actually in the terms it say they get reviewed 100 % and you get a reason...

                                      Sorry but "I like it but I gotta list others" isn't really a valid reason for me considering you are a paying customer.
                                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                                      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                        • alan-l
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2003
                                          • 2477
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                          Let me put things in perspective for you. You are paying for your galleries to be reviewed. You are not paying for guaranteed listings. I do not believe anywhere in their terms do they state they will review 100% of your galleries. If you say they are reviewing 50% of your galleries, then that is what you paid for, so you should be happy.
                                          Did I mention "guaranteed"? Of course not. But you're a little confused, my friend. From http://www.al4a.com/webmasters/ please pay close attention to the bold text

                                          * You can submit every other day to Worldsex.com and Al4a.com with this one account (approx. 3.3 million visitors per day). So basically you can submit 1 gallery per day to one of the two sites. Which means: You can submit a gallery on day 1 to worldsex, on day 2 to al4a, on day 3 to worldsex, on day 4 to al4a, etc etc
                                          * Your application is instant. You get a username/ pass and can submit right away
                                          * Every day we will start reviewing premium submissions first (thus giving you a better chance of getting listed faster, especially with backlogs)
                                          * In case the gallery has been declined you will receive an exact decline reason. This can help improve your listing chances.
                                          * I can see how often I have listed you / how many submissions you have done.
                                          * You can't submit the same gallery to worldsex.com & al4a.com on the same day.
                                          * You can't have a free AND a premium account.
                                          * You can have multiple accounts, but the galleries have to be on a different domain, with a different sponsor & have a different layout.
                                          * You will get a bigger penis. (no chargebacks for this one!!!)
                                          Now, by their own rules I should get either our galleries approved, either rejected with a reason. So yes, it's 100% reviewing, no matter how many leaps and turns you want to put in "perspective"

                                          Either way, I don't fucking care if they review only 25% as long as they've a reasonable listing ratio. And either way, I came to ask what's going on with other webmasters, because if it's just me, then I can try to change things or whatever. But if everybody is facing the same troubles, then why bother?

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                                            • SomeCreep
                                              :glugglug
                                              • Mar 2003
                                              • 26118
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                              Actually in the terms it say they get reviewed 100 % and you get a reason...
                                              I just double checked their terms for premium partner accounts. Nowhere do they state they will review 100% of submitted galleries.

                                              http://www.worldsex.com/webmaster.htm

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                                                • Sly
                                                  Let's do some business!
                                                  • Sep 2004
                                                  • 31379
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                  I just double checked their terms for premium partner accounts. Nowhere do they state they will review 100% of submitted galleries.

                                                  http://www.worldsex.com/webmaster.htm
                                                  Regardless of what percentage of galleries they're supposed to review, if you keep getting a message saying "hey you have a great gallery, but so do 100 other people, so we can't list you today" wouldn't you start wondering what's going on? I mean, didn't they setup the payment system to help eliminate all of the excess galleries they're receiving?
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                                                    • Doctor Dre
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                      • 51692
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                      I just double checked their terms for premium partner accounts. Nowhere do they state they will review 100% of submitted galleries.

                                                      http://www.worldsex.com/webmaster.htm
                                                      * In case the gallery has been declined you will receive an exact decline reason. This can help improve your listing chances.

                                                      --

                                                      what is that? lol
                                                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                        • SomeCreep
                                                          :glugglug
                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 26118
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by alan-l
                                                          Did I mention "guaranteed"? Of course not. But you're a little confused, my friend. From http://www.al4a.com/webmasters/ please pay close attention to the bold text

                                                          Now, by their own rules I should get either our galleries approved, either rejected with a reason. So yes, it's 100% reviewing, no matter how many leaps and turns you want to put in "perspective"
                                                          No, you did not mention "guaranteed", nor did I say you did. However, you seem upset because you are expecting listings, when you did not pay for any. You payed for your galleries to be reviewed. I believe you are incorrect to assume their terms infer 100% of submitted galleries will be reviewed.

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                                                            • tony299
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                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 57021
                                                              #16
                                                              I dont understand that business model and why people buy into it. You will pay for us to review some of your galleries and who knows if they will get listed. To me the only person who benefits from this is the TGP and for business relationships to work it has to go both ways.

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                                                                • Doctor Dre
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                  • 51692
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                  No, you did not mention "guaranteed", nor did I say you did. However, you seem upset because you are expecting listings, when you did not pay for any. You payed for your galleries to be reviewed. I believe you are incorrect to assume their terms infer 100% of submitted galleries will be reviewed.
                                                                  * In case the gallery has been declined you will receive an exact decline reason. This can help improve your listing chances.

                                                                  --

                                                                  You're not beeing logical there. If the gallery is not beeing reviewed, that mean it's automaticly declined. They gotta give you a reason. The reason should be the following : "We have too many partner accounts, we gotta list other people".
                                                                  Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                  I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                    • SomeCreep
                                                                      :glugglug
                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                      • 26118
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Sly
                                                                      Regardless of what percentage of galleries they're supposed to review, if you keep getting a message saying "hey you have a great gallery, but so do 100 other people, so we can't list you today" wouldn't you start wondering what's going on? I mean, didn't they setup the payment system to help eliminate all of the excess galleries they're receiving?
                                                                      Yep, I'd be wondering what was going on, and it's only natural for people to complain. I'm just trying to put things into perspective, as to what webmasters are expecting, and what they are actually paying for.

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                                                                        • Doctor Dre
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                          • 51692
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by tony404
                                                                          I dont understand that business model and why people buy into it. You will pay for us to review some of your galleries and who knows if they will get listed. To me the only person who benefits from this is the TGP and for business relationships to work it has to go both ways.
                                                                          It works for pretty much every big tgp out there ... do you see anybody complaining about pinkworld listings ? hell no ... because they didn't oversell it.
                                                                          Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                          I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                            • wedouglas
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                              • 5921
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                              I just double checked their terms for premium partner accounts. Nowhere do they state they will review 100% of submitted galleries.

                                                                              http://www.worldsex.com/webmaster.htm
                                                                              It is implied. A gallery can only have two things happen to it. Acceptance or be declined. That means that every one must be reviewed. I also don't find the reason, "sorry i had better galleries today," to be helpful in anyway.
                                                                              Last edited by wedouglas; 11-05-2005, 06:09 PM.

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                                                                                • SomeCreep
                                                                                  :glugglug
                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                  • 26118
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by wedouglas
                                                                                  It is implied. A gallery an only have two things happen to it. Acceptance or be declined. That means that everyone must be reviewed. I also don't find the reason, "sorry i had better galleries today," to be helpful in anyway.
                                                                                  If they do not specifically state that 100% of galleries will be reviewed, then you should not assume that it is implied.

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                                                                                    • Sly
                                                                                      Let's do some business!
                                                                                      • Sep 2004
                                                                                      • 31379
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                      I dont understand that business model and why people buy into it. You will pay for us to review some of your galleries and who knows if they will get listed. To me the only person who benefits from this is the TGP and for business relationships to work it has to go both ways.
                                                                                      If 5 galleries a month get listed and generate 1 sale each, you doubled your money. Its a risk many people are willing to take, and for many it pays off well.
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                                                                                        • wedouglas
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                          • 5921
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                                          If they do not specifically state that 100% of galleries will be reviewed, then you should not assume that it is implied.
                                                                                          Then it is completely misleading. While I do think that they review all the galleries and that it just takes a long time due to their backlog, misleading people can get you in trouble.

                                                                                          Just because something doesn't say that it won't do something, doesn't mean that it can. (confusing I know)

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                                                                                            • Doctor Dre
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                              • 51692
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                                              If they do not specifically state that 100% of galleries will be reviewed, then you should not assume that it is implied.
                                                                                              ROFL ... you're just beeing funny right now and don't want to admit that you're wrong. it is very CLEARLY implied.
                                                                                              Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                              I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                                • Martin
                                                                                                  "Assassins"
                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                  • 17274
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  I bought this month and had a couple galleries listed at AL4A nothing on WS yet.

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                                                                                                    • SomeCreep
                                                                                                      :glugglug
                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                      • 26118
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                                                                      ROFL ... you're just beeing funny right now and don't want to admit that you're wrong. it is very CLEARLY implied.
                                                                                                      I understand that you feel it is implied. I do not. Contracts, TOS agreements, and AUP's are written up the way they are for a reason, to state clearly what the rules are. If they were going to guarantee that 100% of galleries would be reviewed, then they would have very easily added a sentence stating the following: "We guarantee 100% of all submitted galleries from premium partner accounts will be reviewed."

                                                                                                      Since they did not, I do not assume they do.
                                                                                                      Last edited by SomeCreep; 11-05-2005, 06:43 PM.

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                                                                                                        • alan-l
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                                                          • 2477
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          man, seriously, since according to you everybody else is wrong, yet nobody else can understand why, please explain us all which option is in the middle of approved and rejected since we all are missing it.

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                                                                                                            • SomeCreep
                                                                                                              :glugglug
                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                                              • 26118
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by alan-l
                                                                                                              please explain us all which option is in the middle of approved and rejected since we all are missing it.
                                                                                                              I dont run Worldsex/Al4a. They are best suited to answer that question.

                                                                                                              If I was too assume though, I would say your gallery is being deleted before it is reviewed because of their backlog. Therefore, since your gallery was not reviewed and declined, no decline reason can be given. It was simply deleted. That is what you are missing. Nowhere do they state they will send you an email if they delete your gallery without reviewing it.
                                                                                                              Last edited by SomeCreep; 11-05-2005, 11:56 PM.

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                                                                                                                • Lee
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                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                  • 2977
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                                                                  If I was too assume though, I would say your gallery is being deleted before it is reviewed because of their backlog. Therefore, since your gallery was not reviewed and declined, no decline reason can be given. It was simply deleted. That is what you are missing. Nowhere do they state they will send you an email if they delete your gallery without reviewing it.
                                                                                                                  But you are paying for the review that is the point...

                                                                                                                  Yes it doesnt actually say we will review 100% of your galleries but that is the service you pay for. It doesnt actually say we will send you a Christmas card each year either, but then you arent paying for that and dont assume its going to happen.

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                                                                                                                    • $hurik
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                                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                                      • 853
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      they care about quality ...

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                                                                                                                        • beemk
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                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                          • 20829
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                          I dont understand that business model and why people buy into it. You will pay for us to review some of your galleries and who knows if they will get listed. To me the only person who benefits from this is the TGP and for business relationships to work it has to go both ways.
                                                                                                                          and thats why you will never make any $ submitting galleries. those of us with a clue know that if we can make more money submitting galleries to that site than it cost it for the pass then chances are its probably worth purchasing. its not rocket science.
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                                                                                                                            • selena
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                              • 7995
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Yes, I've gotten the same decline reasons of "I decided to list something else" and "too many links".

                                                                                                                              The first reason, I don't see as meeting what they tell you they will do. Which is giving you a reason for the decline that will help improve your listing chances.

                                                                                                                              The second, I have no clue how 2 or 3 links on galleries is too many. I've been listed on WS/AL4A with that many links since I've been submitting.

                                                                                                                              I had bought a pass right when they came out, and did well with it. Then it went to where it seemed about 1/3 of the stuff was getting reviewed. So I canceled.

                                                                                                                              This month I decided to give it another try. I am now waiting on them to send me the link so I can cancel again.
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                                                                                                                                • gdog
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                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 1550
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Yup, I love seeing this in my mailbox "your gallery is good, but I like others better today"

                                                                                                                                  I have been paying for about 4 months now at least and I agree that the submission process has gotten worse each month, theoretically everyday I should get an accept or decline e-mail since I submit daily, yet I only get about 3 e-mails per week total.

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                                                                                                                                    • TetsuoIronMan
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                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                      • 140
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      your gallery is good, but I like others better today
                                                                                                                                      And people actually pay money to get insulted like this?
                                                                                                                                      meh

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                                                                                                                                        • Dagwolf
                                                                                                                                          President of Canada
                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 23141
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          How did this get turned to discussing "guaranteed listings"? The real question is whether submit passes are being oversold...
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                                                                                                                                            • Sly
                                                                                                                                              Let's do some business!
                                                                                                                                              • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                              • 31379
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                                                                                              I dont run Worldsex/Al4a. They are best suited to answer that question.

                                                                                                                                              If I was too assume though, I would say your gallery is being deleted before it is reviewed because of their backlog. Therefore, since your gallery was not reviewed and declined, no decline reason can be given. It was simply deleted. That is what you are missing. Nowhere do they state they will send you an email if they delete your gallery without reviewing it.
                                                                                                                                              And again, the argument you continue to bring up is not even the purpose or related to the purpose of this thread.

                                                                                                                                              Just so everyone knows, I just received an approval email from AL4A, gallery submitted Tuesday. Let's see what I get tomorrow!
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                                                                                                                                                • tranza
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 57559
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Martin
                                                                                                                                                  I bought this month and had a couple galleries listed at AL4A nothing on WS yet.
                                                                                                                                                  The real question is: from those 2 listings, did you make your money back already?
                                                                                                                                                  I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                                                                                                    • SomeCreep
                                                                                                                                                      :glugglug
                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 26118
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                                                                                      And again, the argument you continue to bring up is not even the purpose or related to the purpose of this thread.
                                                                                                                                                      The purpose of this thread is to discuss whether worldsex/al4a passes are being oversold. Only GTS or the worldsex/al4a crew can answer that question.

                                                                                                                                                      The thread starter complained of declined galleries, and that is where I made the argument that the submitter was receiving exactly what he paid for, to have his galleries reviewed.
                                                                                                                                                      Last edited by SomeCreep; 11-06-2005, 03:30 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                        • Screaming
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                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                          • 18972
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Not shocked at all.

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                                                                                                                                                            • Nicky
                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 30071
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                                                                                                              The purpose of this thread is to discuss whether worldsex/al4a passes are being oversold. Only GTS or the worldsex/al4a crew can answer that question.

                                                                                                                                                              The thread starter complained of declined galleries, and that is where I made the argument that the submitter was receiving exactly what he paid for, to have his galleries reviewed.
                                                                                                                                                              So now you are saying that he is paying to get his gallerys reviewed, if that is the case shouldnt he get 100% of his gallerys reviewed?!

                                                                                                                                                              Also it states in their agreement that "You will get a decline reason for each gallery you submit" Doesnt that kinda mean that they will(should) review every gallery?

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                                                                                                                                                                • SomeCreep
                                                                                                                                                                  :glugglug
                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 26118
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Nicky
                                                                                                                                                                  So now you are saying that he is paying to get his gallerys reviewed, if that is the case shouldnt he get 100% of his gallerys reviewed?!

                                                                                                                                                                  Also it states in their agreement that "You will get a decline reason for each gallery you submit" Doesnt that kinda mean that they will(should) review every gallery?
                                                                                                                                                                  Read the thread again friend. Those points have been discussed.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • RazorSharpe
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 2238
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                                                                                                                      The purpose of this thread is to discuss whether worldsex/al4a passes are being oversold. Only GTS or the worldsex/al4a crew can answer that question.

                                                                                                                                                                      The thread starter complained of declined galleries, and that is where I made the argument that the submitter was receiving exactly what he paid for, to have his galleries reviewed.
                                                                                                                                                                      GTS have nothing to do with worldsex and al4a listings.

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                                                                                                                                                                      Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • bigdog
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 6964
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          if you can only get listed once or twice and can do 10+ joins per listing it pays for itself

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                                                                                                                                                                            • RazorSharpe
                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 2238
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by bigdog
                                                                                                                                                                              if you can only get listed once or twice and can do 10+ joins per listing it pays for itself
                                                                                                                                                                              Are you saying you do 10+ joins per listing?

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                                                                                                                                                                              Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • alan-l
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 2477
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                                                                                                                                  The purpose of this thread is to discuss whether worldsex/al4a passes are being oversold. Only GTS or the worldsex/al4a crew can answer that question.
                                                                                                                                                                                  GTS has nothing to do with this, the only time we had a problem with one of his passes they refund me in full. Furthermore, they answer mails, go figure

                                                                                                                                                                                  That's why I've bought most of their passes and renewed without a problem

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • adonthenet
                                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 16753
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      intresting thread.. where your buying those passes guys right now?!
                                                                                                                                                                                      I wanted to buy cuple but now ill look carefully.. who do you suggest is best to go with / buy from ?

                                                                                                                                                                                      * you can get spots its not like partner pass that cost cuple 10's of $$ it cost cuple 100's of $$$ but you will get listed every day!

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • adonthenet
                                                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 16753
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          bumppppp

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