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Prob is that only a dozen senators are given intelligence information.Originally posted by Phoenix
They then fuck it all up (like playing telephone the game). They go on hunting trips and discuss it, come up with dooms day scenarios, they head to Washington and spread that shit around until someone like Kerry asks for the floor and speaks on it. Since everyone else heard the same shit they all "Hear hear " the poor guy and you come up with a misinformed speaker.
For starters the info that he was given was shit. Remember that the generals that have the presidents ear are all for war. They make money , they ensure that they have a job for 4 years.
Basically they will do whatever they can to justify going mobile.
It's not that they don't have freedom of speech, its' that someone bullshittedsed them.
we've all opened our mouths on issues we didn' tknow about. But had heard about through someone else.Comment
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My point is that Clinton and his administration was saying the same things prior to Bush, but noone seems to call him a liar.... Why?Originally posted by coolegg2
....So did French intelligence, and Russian intelligence, but no one calls them liars... The only reason that they were not going to do anything about it was that Saddam had agreed to switch the petrodollar to the petroeuro and give them an economic advantage.... and of course they were making 100s of millions of dollars cheating the Oil for Food program while Iraqis starved.
But I guess I'm speaking to a fanatic, with only one narrow view of the world
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Hmmm, I can honestly say that's the first time I've been called a fanatic. Maybe I am just a stickler for getting the facts right before the bombers are ordered to unload their own WMDs.Originally posted by sperbonzoMy point is that Clinton and his administration was saying the same things prior to Bush, but noone seems to call him a liar.... Why?
....So did French intelligence, and Russian intelligence, but no one calls them liars... The only reason that they were not going to do anything about it was that Saddam had agreed to switch the petrodollar to the petroeuro and give them an economic advantage.... and of course they were making 100s of millions of dollars cheating the Oil for Food program while Iraqis starved.
But I guess I'm speaking to a fanatic, with only one narrow view of the world
It's unfortunate that your President doesn't have the same character trait.Last edited by coolegg2; 11-03-2005, 01:11 PM.Comment
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Originally posted by sperbonzoThat's interesting.... you should tell that to the Kurdish women and children that he gassed with those non-WMDs....
They will probably feel pretty sheepish about dying in such large numbers from non-WMDs....
how much Agent O did you guys drop on the vietnamese?!?!!?!
that justifies an invasion does it?
you are a brainwashed idiot - take a number and follow your orders pion
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ahhhh....yes. Personal insults...Originally posted by BlueQuartzhow much Agent O did you guys drop on the vietnamese?!?!!?!
that justifies an invasion does it?
you are a brainwashed idiot - take a number and follow your orders pion
It's pointless debating issues with you guys, isn't it....
You've COMPLETELY missed the logic of my post here... whether you agree with it or not.
I give up. Some people will only look at things that they already agree with.
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You are the one who came to GFY with some bullshit list of quotes that is making rounds of the neo-con email lists.Originally posted by sperbonzoahhhh....yes. Personal insults...
It's pointless debating issues with you guys, isn't it....
You've COMPLETELY missed the logic of my post here... whether you agree with it or not.
I give up. Some people will only look at things that they already agree with.
If you are going to start a streetfight about George W Bush's intellectual failings you better bring more than your nail-file.Comment
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one last point.... that was the same reason that Clinton used to justify Kosovo...Originally posted by BlueQuartzhow much Agent O did you guys drop on the vietnamese?!?!!?!
that justifies an invasion does it?
you are a brainwashed idiot - take a number and follow your orders pion
I'm somehow willing to bet you didn't have a problem with it then....
Good luck with the sloganeering.... I can only hope for the best.Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing
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Streetfight? What streetfight? This is a debate.Originally posted by coolegg2
You consider throwing insults though the internet from the safety of thousands of miles away a "streetfight"?
and where in my original post did I talk about GW and his intellect?
You really do have total blinders on, don't you?
*Michael walks away, shaking his head*Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing
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Geez, you are taking this way to seriously - you are taking even the most basic metaphores literally now. Maybe you are right, it is time for you to walk away. I think I'll do the same. My point is made; your original list is a diversion and is total bullshit, and is something for conservatives to cut and paste rather than having to reason thoughtfully.Originally posted by sperbonzoStreetfight? What streetfight? This is a debate.
You consider throwing insults though the internet from the safety of thousands of miles away a "streetfight"?
and where in my original post did I talk about GW and his intellect?
You really do have total blinders on, don't you?
*Michael walks away, shaking his head*Comment
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You mean the ones that Bush 1 gave him?Originally posted by sperbonzoThat's interesting.... you should tell that to the Kurdish women and children that he gassed with those non-WMDs....
They will probably feel pretty sheepish about dying in such large numbers from non-WMDs....Comment
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The difference? Clinton acted on genuine intelligence, rather than creating intelligence that suited his purposes. Clinton did what needed to be done and got the fuck out and the world loved and thanked us. Clinton had a good enough security apparatus to keep a major attack from happening, and when minor attacks happened he caught and imprisoned everyone involved.Originally posted by sperbonzoComment
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Repubs are always coming out with this shit, it gets totally debunked, they don't care and just wait for the next brainwashing session. Kinda like all the horror stories about out of control trial lawyers manufactured and mass emailed by the insurance industry in collusion with the GOP.Originally posted by coolegg2
Basically the current GOP has NO ethics, NO morality, they'll lie, out CIA agents, torture prisoners, spy on the US citizenry, whatever has to be done to keep power. They are ONLY interested in staying in power, PERIOD. With the help of 'loyal' americans like Sperbonzo, that's probably what they'll do too.Comment
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Polish Troops Find Sarin Warheads
Terrorists may have been close to obtaining munitions containing the deadly nerve agent cyclosarin that Polish soldiers recovered last month in Iraq, the head of Poland's military intelligence said Friday....
Dukaczewski refused to give any further details about the terrorists or the sellers of the munitions, saying only that his troops thwarted terrorists by purchasing the 17 rockets for a Soviet-era launcher and two mortar rounds containing the nerve agent for an undisclosed sum June 23....
The warheads all contained cyclosarin, multinational force commander Polish Gen. Mieczyslaw Bieniek said.
"Laboratory tests showed the presence in them of cyclosarin, a very toxic gas, five times stronger than sarin and five times more durable," Bieniek told Poland's TVN24 at the force's Camp Babylon headquarters.
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just when you thought it was ok to attack the right...
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This hummmm " debate " is still going on ....
Sperbonzo is playing with you guys like a cat with a mouse ....
I was just " passing by " ....I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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Hey that's ALMOST as reliable as yellowcake in Niger isn't it?Originally posted by spunkmaster
When you conservatards going to get tired of being lied to and fucked over? Ever? Or will you as usual leave it up to the progressive, intelligent half of the population to clean up your mess?Comment
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Thats simply not true at all. He did have wmd's at one point , like most other countriesOriginally posted by BlueQuartzhatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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Just the ones the Republicans sold him, and after he used to kill Kurds and Iranians like we wanted him to, they were gone. Chemical weapons only maintain viability for so long.Comment
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http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117....html?from=rss
secret gulags in foreign countries.
http://www.joestump.net/812351567/wh...s-for-you.html
citizens spying on other citizens
and I'm leaving out plenty of stuff because I'm on my way to Ceasar's Palace. Seizing library records. Telling American citizens to 'watch what you say'. Calling everyone who disagrees with you a TRAITOR!
Is this what you're trying to turn my country into? I say YOU are the unamerican party. I think I should stay and YOU should go. GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY before you turn it into the USSR. If you want a dictator and a police state go somewhere and start your own country, we already have this one and we want to keep it.Comment
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