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  • Deej
    I make pixels work
    • Jun 2005
    • 24386

    #51
    fitty design peeves

    Deej's Designs n' What Not
    Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching


    Icq#30096880

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    • Barefootsies
      Choice is an Illusion
      • Feb 2005
      • 42635

      #52
      Originally posted by Deej
      fitty design peeves
      Should You Email Your Members?

      Link1 | Link2 | Link3

      Enough Said.

      "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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      • Ragging Rhino
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2006
        • 221

        #53
        Originally posted by Barefootsies
        Which designers slash programmers have others had good experience with?

        PHP/CMS/CSS/DB's


        I have experience in ALL if that.
        I been designing for over 10 years now and have worked with some of the largest companies around, plus worked for 2 major message boards.
        I am low key guy because I normally work exclusively, for a sponsor.
        I done work for , Intergal, CE, Shaw Internet, Traffic Cash Gold and many others.

        Up until January, I worked for a year and a half for LotzaDollars and left there to go work for EscortBiz and TushyCash.

        Lots of people from the old days, back on Ynot, know me as Rhino.
        RB, Dean from Intergal, Meat, Aga, PK, Mike Gatefold, Rackhard, Lensman, Webfather and many others know me.

        I've had many differant handles from different times, I worked with different companies, off here.
        Don't let my post count fool you.
        I been here a longgggggggg time.

        But, If I don't know you, I will always ask for half up front.
        If we have done business before, or if your a reputable, I'll work with you or even do the work up front.

        Otherwise, the way I see it. If they won't even do a portion of the money up front or do something to garrentee, once the job is done, I'll get paid.
        Then, they won't pay.

        I just gave a guy a break and did a members logo for him and worked 2 days on this, only to have him skate around on me and I never got a dime.
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        • Barefootsies
          Choice is an Illusion
          • Feb 2005
          • 42635

          #54
          Originally posted by Ragging Rhino
          I have experience in ALL if that.
          I been designing for over 10 years now and have worked with some of the largest companies around, plus worked for 2 major message boards.
          I am low key guy because I normally work exclusively, for a sponsor.
          I done work for , Intergal, CE, Shaw Internet, Traffic Cash Gold and many others.

          Up until January, I worked for a year and a half for LotzaDollars and left there to go work for EscortBiz and TushyCash.

          Lots of people from the old days, back on Ynot, know me as Rhino.
          RB, Dean from Intergal, Meat, Aga, PK, Mike Gatefold, Rackhard, Lensman, Webfather and many others know me.

          I've had many differant handles from different times, I worked with different companies, off here.
          Don't let my post count fool you.
          I been here a longgggggggg time.

          But, If I don't know you, I will always ask for half up front.
          If we have done business before, or if your a reputable, I'll work with you or even do the work up front.

          Otherwise, the way I see it. If they won't even do a portion of the money up front or do something to garrentee, once the job is done, I'll get paid.
          Then, they won't pay.

          I just gave a guy a break and did a members logo for him and worked 2 days on this, only to have him skate around on me and I never got a dime.
          Sounds like you are a man with the skills.
          Should You Email Your Members?

          Link1 | Link2 | Link3

          Enough Said.

          "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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          • Ragging Rhino
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2006
            • 221

            #55
            I know my shit and I don't fuck around, when it comes to work.
            The only reason why I may not get the job done is because...
            I'm either dead..or on my deathbed.
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            • Barefootsies
              Choice is an Illusion
              • Feb 2005
              • 42635

              #56
              Originally posted by Ragging Rhino
              The only reason why I may not get the job done is because...
              I'm dead..
              Should You Email Your Members?

              Link1 | Link2 | Link3

              Enough Said.

              "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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              • Barefootsies
                Choice is an Illusion
                • Feb 2005
                • 42635

                #57
                Should You Email Your Members?

                Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                Enough Said.

                "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                • cj_purve
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 1065

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Barefootsies
                  Exactly.

                  In my experience if you are a repeat customer, for some reason, you get put at the back of the line prioritizing other clients. Or, the quality of work slides to meet deadlines.

                  Unacceptable.

                  When it's repeat business, you should give it "top notch guy priority" to keep the contract. When your work slides, deadlines are passed, and I start hearing designer's excuse handbook, then I pull the contract and go elsewhere.

                  The difference in the past was there was no monetary penalty.


                  Lets not confuse repeat customer with friend ... repeat customers are my number 1 priority which is essential if you want any future business. I have worked for many of the same clients for over 5 years, a handful for 9 years. I'll never understand why a repeat customer would come second. Every job done well is almost a guarantee of another job ...

                  My parents owned a restaurant for 17 years while I was growing up & without repeat business they would have gone under a couple of times.

                  But ... I also do a lot of mates rates jobs for friends & they will always wait the longest. I don't think that's a quality unique to designers though, my mechanic is the same but I couldn't complain because he hardly ever charged me!

                  Put a few of us mid level designers to the test ... we might not be mike wylde or blue design studios, but our prices are right and you might just find a couple of good folks to work with. ;-)

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                  • Barefootsies
                    Choice is an Illusion
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 42635

                    #59
                    Originally posted by cj_purve
                    Lets not confuse repeat customer with friend ... repeat customers are my number 1 priority which is essential if you want any future business. I have worked for many of the same clients for over 5 years, a handful for 9 years. I'll never understand why a repeat customer would come second. Every job done well is almost a guarantee of another job ...

                    My parents owned a restaurant for 17 years while I was growing up & without repeat business they would have gone under a couple of times.

                    But ... I also do a lot of mates rates jobs for friends & they will always wait the longest. I don't think that's a quality unique to designers though, my mechanic is the same but I couldn't complain because he hardly ever charged me!

                    Put a few of us mid level designers to the test ... we might not be mike wylde or blue design studios, but our prices are right and you might just find a couple of good folks to work with. ;-)
                    Sounds like a plan sire.

                    Should You Email Your Members?

                    Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                    Enough Said.

                    "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                    • Barefootsies
                      Choice is an Illusion
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 42635

                      #60
                      Should You Email Your Members?

                      Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                      Enough Said.

                      "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                      • Barefootsies
                        Choice is an Illusion
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 42635

                        #61
                        Any other web design or programmer recommendations?
                        Should You Email Your Members?

                        Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                        Enough Said.

                        "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                        • testpie
                          Mostly retired
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 3231

                          #62
                          Originally posted by Barefootsies
                          Any other web design or programmer recommendations?
                          Seeing as I'm considering offering my services, I might be a little vain and recommend myself.

                          Affiliates: DogFart ~ Domain parking: NameDrive ~ Traffic broker: Traffic Holder

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                          • Barefootsies
                            Choice is an Illusion
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 42635

                            #63
                            Originally posted by testpie
                            Seeing as I'm considering offering my services, I might be a little vain and recommend myself.
                            Should You Email Your Members?

                            Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                            Enough Said.

                            "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                            • Barefootsies
                              Choice is an Illusion
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 42635

                              #64
                              Originally posted by testpie
                              Seeing as I'm considering offering my services, I might be a little vain and recommend myself.
                              I'll hit ya up on ICQ when I have time to chat.
                              Should You Email Your Members?

                              Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                              Enough Said.

                              "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                              • Barefootsies
                                Choice is an Illusion
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 42635

                                #65
                                Originally posted by cj_purve
                                But you'll generally scare away most fly by night designers with contract talk so its a great idea to make that a step in your future transactions.
                                This has proven sooooo true it fills me with glee.

                                In the past when I just through out a simple design request, my ICQ blew up because I had designers from Russia, US, UK, Canada the Philippines and everywhere else hitting me up wanting to do work for us.

                                However in THIS case. Only the cream of the crop have contacted me, or I them (still working through the list as I have time to talk) that can make the commitment on this level.

                                They know coming in what I am looking for, and vice versa. Now it's a simple matter of matching up skill sets for the projects. Some are more detailed and need programmers versus just a designer.

                                It has been an interesting experiment to say the least.

                                Should You Email Your Members?

                                Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                Enough Said.

                                "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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