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  • sexuallyhealed
    So Fucking Banned
    • Sep 2005
    • 532

    #1

    designers need 2257????

    (2) A secondary producer is any person who produces, assembles, manufactures, publishes, duplicates, reproduces, or reissues a book, magazine, periodical, film, videotape, digitally- or computer-manipulated image, picture, or other matter intended for commercial distribution that contains a visual depiction of an actual human being engaged in actual sexually explicit conduct, or who inserts on a computer site or service a digital image of, or otherwise manages the sexually explicit content of a computer site or service that contains a visual depiction of an actual human being engaged in actual sexually explicit conduct, including any person who enters into a contract, agreement, or conspiracy to do any of the foregoing.
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    I thought designers don't need to have 2257 shit. This would mean that designers need 2257 too.

    Out of all the design sites I've ever seen , none of them have any kind of 2257 stuff up. Even the very well known ones.

    wyldesites has no 2257 up anywhere.. bluedesignstudios has no 2257 up anywhere..
  • Dynamix
    G F Y not
    • Jan 2004
    • 2910

    #2
    Many of us, as designers, don't need the 2257 docs - our clients provide the content for use in their paysite tour designs or gallery template designs, and therefore need the proper 2257 docs when the design goes live.

    Some of us have content that we've purchased for use in our designs, and, like myself, have the proper 2257 documentation from the content producer. I purchased a few sets from Paul Markham several months ago and use his content occasionally in my TGP designs.. I have all the necessary documents on file.

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    • Dynamix
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      • Jan 2004
      • 2910

      #3
      "and therefore need" should read "and therefore our clients would need", just to make things clear

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      • sexuallyhealed
        So Fucking Banned
        • Sep 2005
        • 532

        #4
        or who inserts on a computer site or service a digital image of, or otherwise manages the sexually explicit content of a computer site or service that contains a visual depiction of an actual human being engaged in actual sexually explicit conduct
        that would make designers need 2257 papers for their site if they display or manage those images..

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        • Dynamix
          G F Y not
          • Jan 2004
          • 2910

          #5
          2257 only, as far as I can tell, refers to hardcore sex.. few of us depict this ;)

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          • sexuallyhealed
            So Fucking Banned
            • Sep 2005
            • 532

            #6
            "few of us depict this "

            they all depict it...

            www.wyldesites.com
            www.bluedesignstudios.com
            www.kidredproductions.com

            and pretty much all the rest have harcdore tour samples in their portfolio's for public viewing.
            They are ALL in violation of 2257...

            Anyone who hosts adult material on their site are considered secondary producers which means they are required to have all the documentation that the primary producer has on file too.

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            • Hammer
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2003
              • 961

              #7
              You should check with your attorney Dynamix, because if you show samples of the tours you've designed on your website and they are hosted on your site and you aren't linking to the client's actual site, you will need to comply with 2257. And it won't matter if you censor the images either.

              I believe BlueDesignStudios is based in Australia, which would explain why they don't have a link. Any other designer that shows explicit tours on their site should be complying.
              Last edited by Hammer; 10-27-2005, 05:54 PM.
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              • Dynamix
                G F Y not
                • Jan 2004
                • 2910

                #8
                Originally posted by The Hammer
                You should check with your attorney Dynamix, because if you show samples of the tours you've designed on your website and they are hosted on your site and you aren't linking to the client's actual site, you will need to comply with 2257. And it won't matter if you censor the images either.

                I believe BlueDesignStudios is based in Australia, which would explain why they don't have a link. Any other designer that shows explicit tours on their site should be complying.
                Ah I misunderstood what he meant then, I didn't even think of portfolios. The only hardcore nudity in my designs (on my portfolio, at least) is of cartoons.

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                • Sebastian Sands
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 5223

                  #9
                  I think for all the designs in portfolios that are falling under the 2257 law, designers can link straight to the clients url. I understand that some clients change stuff around on site designs so it might not work for everyone. I'd say make it an affiliate link and for surfers that end up on a designers site on accident fall right back into what they were really looking for, you might get a sign up too.

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