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Protect minors use the RTA and ICRA do your part !!!!

05-04-2007, 01:20 PM

With all the talk of doing our parts in the industry I hope everyone is using the labeling for their sites to help filter out unwanted visits by minors.

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LOS ANGELES - The RTA label created by the Association of Sites Advocating Child Protection quickly has gained momentum, becoming the chosen moniker indicating adults-only content on the Web.

"Many adult companies are not only adopting the tag, but also encouraging their affiliates and clients to use the RTA label by sending out information in their newsletters and placing banners on resource sites," said Rick Louis, manager of communications and government affairs for ASACP.

Each day, thousands of visitors go to the RTALabel.org to find out what the labeling protocol means. As the website states, RTA labeling was fashioned "to better enable parental filtering, and to demonstrate the online adult industry's commitment to helping parents prevent children from viewing age-inappropriate content. The RTA label is free to use, voluntary, and universally available to any website that wishes to clearly and effectively label itself as being inappropriate for viewing by minors."
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05-04-2007, 01:42 PM

I know its not drama but it is important

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05-04-2007, 01:43 PM

This is a good reminder to all.

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05-04-2007, 01:45 PM

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05-04-2007, 02:12 PM

One way to force the usage of the RTA label is for sponsors to require that affiliates have it on any page linking to the program. Would this fly?
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05-04-2007, 02:13 PM

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05-04-2007, 02:36 PM

I do.

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05-04-2007, 02:55 PM

I have labelled my sites with both rta and icra. hope im doing my part

infact i dont see any other reason not too, it takes what? 5 minuites top?

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05-04-2007, 03:08 PM

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05-04-2007, 03:46 PM

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05-04-2007, 05:26 PM

Thanks for the reminder, Lars!

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05-04-2007, 05:30 PM

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One way to force the usage of the RTA label is for sponsors to require that affiliates have it on any page linking to the program. Would this fly?

You mean go back and edit hundreds of sites and galleries? I don't think it would 'fly'.
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05-04-2007, 05:38 PM

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05-04-2007, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by Jarmusch

You mean go back and edit hundreds of sites and galleries? I don't think it would 'fly'.

ICRA used to have a system that you could plug into your apache that would just label your whole domain with no html changes they may still.
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05-04-2007, 08:35 PM

http://www.icra.org/archive/labellingWG/mod_headers/

here is the mode header apache rewrite makes labeling your whole server a snap !! My sites have been labeld for as long as I can rememebr even when I was still doing free sites before tgp was even invented.
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05-06-2007, 09:09 AM

This is a very good cause. We encourage everyone in the business to take the time to label their sites with the http://www.rtalabel.org system. It's quick, it's responsible business and it's proactive, which sends a clear message attesting to the fact that collectively, the industry cares about the issues that matter.

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05-07-2007, 03:53 PM

Let's make it easy.

Minors can't buy porn anyway and they shouldn't be exposed to it.
The RTA label is a great way to do your part at keeping adult content away from children.
Parents have to do their part, and the RTA label gives them the tool they need.

Self regulation in this space may be the only thing that prevents forced regulation.
And you can bet that regulation from the outside would NOT be a good thing.

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05-07-2007, 04:06 PM

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05-07-2007, 04:37 PM

I think it is coming down to Regulate, or Be Regulated
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05-07-2007, 04:41 PM

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05-07-2007, 04:58 PM

if you really want to protect kids teach them to change hands so they don''t get carpal tunnel.
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05-07-2007, 05:06 PM

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05-07-2007, 05:08 PM

Protect minors. Don't support companies that install spyware, popup generators, other other tools that can lead people to porn without them asking for it.
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05-07-2007, 05:17 PM

The RTA label is a great idea, I use it on all my sites. Now if we can just educate the parents to use their content advisors and monitor their kids online activities we'll be doing alright, but I won't hold my breath
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05-07-2007, 05:21 PM

Is the RTA label enough or is the ICRA one also necessary? The RTA label is alot easier to implement.
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05-07-2007, 05:28 PM

Make sure that you have child protection on all your public pages!!!!!!!

It is just the right thing to do.

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05-07-2007, 08:07 PM

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05-07-2007, 10:01 PM

We've been using RTA for some time now and I think more people should do the same!

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05-07-2007, 10:19 PM

I applaud your efforts, but what happened to parenting?
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05-08-2007, 07:43 AM

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05-08-2007, 07:53 AM

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I applaud your efforts, but what happened to parenting?

Wouldn't you agree that good parenting involves internet filters? This is where it becomes a two way street. Webmasters and ratings work together with parents and filter software.

You can't slam parenting in 2007 and then not have ratings for parents who are trying to do their job.
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05-08-2007, 08:20 AM

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Wouldn't you agree that good parenting involves internet filters? This is where it becomes a two way street. Webmasters and ratings work together with parents and filter software.

before internet filters can work, labeling of web pages has to be done first.

even if there were no software that could block pages that used a labeling system, the labels would need to be there first.

its like the classic chicken-and-egg story.. but not.. parents won't use a system that has nothing to filter against... whereas the efforts to label are so minor, that even if no one was using that label to filter, the tiny little effort to put the labelling in does carry forward.

the more that do this, the more it catches the attention of technology enablers who can then provide for effective solutions.

labeling with http://www.rtalabel.org is as simple as copy/paste of the RTA tag into every web page, or using php or rewrite_mod to handle it.

it goes along way in doing your part for advocacy work by ASACP and myself when we can statistically show and prove the number of adult websites who do self-label.

Without each webmaster's decision to make in labeling, it gives all the more reason why things like .XXX TLD and mandatory labeling laws keep popping up.

It makes my efforts to say to various entities that children should be protected from seeing harmful material (and this public scrutiny is most clearly demontrated with the Imus issue) as well as adults who don't want to see adult content, that they have the means to block such viewing.. WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, giving adults who want to see adult content, the ability to do so....a lot harder.

Its hard for me to rebutte someone when they look at adult websites and see sites not labelling, when they believe that only through legislation is the way to solve problems.. but we all know that U.S. laws only work for U.S.

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05-08-2007, 08:50 AM

these labeling ideas are silly. Even if every gfy member labeled their site there would be thousands of new porn sites who either wouldnt or would be unwilling to label their sites as adult. besides that every country has both different laws and different ethics on what children should be allowed to see..

and its even siller because HERE IS THE REAL SOLUTION.

LABEL THE CHILDRENS SITES. ! wow what a unique idea ..

I shouldnt waste my time as these realistic things never fly but.. here goes..

step#1 make a childrens network
step#2 anyone who wants to be rated as kids safe must have their site verified
step#3 each country has their own filter list incase certain countries have different laws/ethics
step#4 kids browser is restricted to only sites on the list ( not the opposite way around that would never work and doesnt )

done and done

google is one of the largest internet companies around and they cant filter porn OUT so why would people be so insane to think you can filter OUT what you dont want your kids to see. its very EASY and POSSIBLE to filter IN stuff to a childrens network

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05-08-2007, 09:02 AM

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LABEL THE CHILDRENS SITES. ! wow what a unique idea ..

yes, its called .KIDS TLD.. and something that doesn't have any traction because no money in it.

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05-08-2007, 09:11 AM

heres a simple analogy to the problem and why labeling porn doesnt do a damn thing..

the internet is like a room full of things . some of them good some of them bad , i think we can ALL agree that the MAJORITY of these "things" are not suitable for children. New "things" are added to the room every second..

does it make sense to label everything bad as bad when most of the shit is bad.. or does it make more sense to label the few good things as "GOOD"

the practise of labeling porn sites as adult is fucking stupid..because it imply's everything is "good" until labeled bad.. well fucking duh obviously everything should be assumed to be BAD until its proven good.

maybe its too early in the morning..

parents should understand this, do you tell your chiildren everything they CANT eat , or do you tell them things they CAN eat.

Like if you were at a store and theres lets say thousand of kids snacks/candies and you say " pick one but DONT pick ... candy, gum, twizzlers, freezies etc etc list of 999 things " or do you say " you can have a granola bar , and thats it"

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05-08-2007, 09:23 AM

If it's not law, don't do it.

This is just another way to take responsibility away from Parents. It's not our place to protect children, we are responsible for following the LAW. That's it! Sure, you can always go above and beyond this, but by no means is this our responsibility. Parents are responsible for protecting their children. Do NOT forget this! The internet is a big place with many things to see, some are much worse than adult material, ie, death, bestiality etc... If you really care about this, then hunt the people who put this material out and ask them to label their site. These labels could easily be used to filter adult content. Don't think it isn't possible. Make the governments pass laws (If they can), otherwise, do what you are legally obligated to do.

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05-08-2007, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

these labeling ideas are silly. Even if every gfy member labeled their site there would be thousands of new porn sites who either wouldnt or would be unwilling to label their sites as adult. besides that every country has both different laws and different ethics on what children should be allowed to see..

and its even siller because HERE IS THE REAL SOLUTION.

LABEL THE CHILDRENS SITES. ! wow what a unique idea ..

I shouldnt waste my time as these realistic things never fly but.. here goes..

step#1 make a childrens network
step#2 anyone who wants to be rated as kids safe must have their site verified
step#3 each country has their own filter list incase certain countries have different laws/ethics
step#4 kids browser is restricted to only sites on the list ( not the opposite way around that would never work and doesnt )

done and done

google is one of the largest internet companies around and they cant filter porn OUT so why would people be so insane to think you can filter OUT what you dont want your kids to see. its very EASY and POSSIBLE to filter IN stuff to a childrens network

I totally agree but we all know it will never happen.

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05-08-2007, 10:15 AM

ICRA is built into Microsoft IE So anyone who turns on the filter in IE is protected against those sites that do label. I for one want to do whatever i can to protect minors on the internet, I at least can sleep at night knowing I did my part and did the right thing !! This industry is so fractured at least we could all do the right thing here and band together for once
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05-08-2007, 10:33 AM

Everyone should be paying attention to this thread.

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05-08-2007, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by Voodoo

If it's not law, don't do it.

A bill is already in congress for mandatory labeling:
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At a press conference held yesterday, Senators Max Baucus (D-MT) and Mark Pryor (D-AR.) announced that they have reintroduced the ?Cyber Safety For Kids Act,? legislation that would, among other things, require adult websites to ?flag? themselves in order to make it easier for software filters to identify and block such sites.

?Bottom line, we want to keep our kids safe when they?re on the Internet,? Baucus said in a prepared statement yesterday. ?Parents and teachers shouldn?t worry about their kids when they?re on the computer at home or in the classroom. This bill will help keep kids safe and give parents peace of mind.?

The text of the bill, S.1086, has not yet been delivered to the Library of Congress (LOC) from the Government Printing Office, according to the LOC website. The Act is described on the LOC website as a ?bill to provide stronger protections to parents regarding their children's access to sexually explicit material over the Internet.?

According to a press release issued by Baucus yesterday, if passed, the Act would require the U.S. Department of Commerce to:

? ?Develop an electronic tag for Web sites with sexually explicit adult material and would require those Web sites to use electronic tags when registering or renewing registration. Parents, teachers, librarians, etc. would then be able to set their Internet browsers on their computers to block Web sites with adult material electronic tags.?

? ?Make it mandatory for Web sites with adult material to have a clean homepage.?

? ?Require Web sites with adult material to have visitors verify that they?re 18 years of age or older.?

According to the press release, under the Act the Commerce Dept would ?issue civil penalties to Web sites with adult material if they fail to follow the guidelines? outlined in the Act.

Note: Senator Max Baucus is a democrat.

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05-08-2007, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by Jarmusch

Is the RTA label enough or is the ICRA one also necessary? The RTA label is alot easier to implement.

I use both RTA and ICRA simultaneously.

Why? While either will do the job, ICRA may be supported by more filtering technologies; but this is becoming less and less of an issue as RTA expands its reach and isn't significant at this point.

That being said, there is a perception issue associated with labeling, and on this front, nothing replaces "using the industry standard" so I use ICRA (and have since its inception a decade ago as RSACi) ? but likewise, nothing replaces "using the industry solution" ? so I support and use RTA as well, to demonstrate that the industry can step up to the plate and deliver responsible solutions for legitimate operators.

While the code overhead of using both is negligible, if you want to use only one, use RTA and show your support for adult!
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05-08-2007, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by Stephen

I use both RTA and ICRA simultaneously.

Why? While either will do the job, ICRA may be supported by more filtering technologies; but this is becoming less and less of an issue as RTA expands its reach and isn't significant at this point.

That being said, there is a perception issue associated with labeling, and on this front, nothing replaces "using the industry standard" so I use ICRA (and have since its inception a decade ago as RSACi) ? but likewise, nothing replaces "using the industry solution" ? so I support and use RTA as well, to demonstrate that the industry can step up to the plate and deliver responsible solutions for legitimate operators.

While the code overhead of using both is negligible, if you want to use only one, use RTA and show your support for adult!

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05-08-2007, 11:12 AM

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Oh the irony.

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05-08-2007, 11:17 AM

How long does it take to add the tags to pages? It's been a long time since I've actually composed anything other than a blog page, but seriously, every effort the industry makes on its own to show responsibility is just another good thing when the government is looking at us.
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05-08-2007, 11:29 AM

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05-08-2007, 11:30 AM

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Oh the irony.

You do realise you just hopped on your soap box and typed all that out to say exactly what he just said right?

Please explain the irony?

And whom are you referring to?

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