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Old 05-04-2007, 09:11 AM  
gornyhuy
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I don't think that people get into pain for the relief of it, I think its more of a surrender thing... total submission to and acceptance of the pain. Then you realize pain and pleasure are just sensations, its your reaction too it (aversion , clenching, clinging, attachment, etc) that causes suffering.
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