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  • Martin
    "Assassins"
    • Dec 2001
    • 17274

    #1

    Now that Im pushing my own paysite I can't believe...

    How many surfers cards get declined.

    I mean most were from the USA too.. Sucks ass.
  • darksoul
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2002
    • 4997

    #2
    what processor do you use ?
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    • ElvisManson
      Looking California
      • Feb 2001
      • 5476

      #3
      welcome to the world of managing charge backs....lol

      Do you track the individual sources of traffic through the join process?

      Doing this gives you the opportunity to spend more time getting profitable traffic.

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      • Martin
        "Assassins"
        • Dec 2001
        • 17274

        #4
        Originally posted by ElvisManson
        welcome to the world of managing charge backs....lol

        Do you track the individual sources of traffic through the join process?

        Doing this gives you the opportunity to spend more time getting profitable traffic.
        Haven't had one CB yet. They don't even get the chance lol.

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        • MacDaddyPlaya
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2004
          • 1785

          #5
          Whats your approval rate?
          Sigless

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          • KRL
            Entrepreneur
            • Oct 2002
            • 31429

            #6
            Setup an alternative page for them to mail you a check or money order. You'll be surprised how many will do that.

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            • ElvisManson
              Looking California
              • Feb 2001
              • 5476

              #7
              Originally posted by Martin
              Haven't had one CB yet. They don't even get the chance lol.

              Your processor has multiple accounts like yours they do billing for ( duh, I know I am stating the obvious). Part of their strategy to manage their overall chargebacks is to "Scrub" the attempted sign ups against a variety of databases. Fraud, history of charging back using that credit card etc...

              hit me on ICQ..I might be able to make a few suggestions.

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              • Martin
                "Assassins"
                • Dec 2001
                • 17274

                #8
                Originally posted by KRL
                Setup an alternative page for them to mail you a check or money order. You'll be surprised how many will do that.

                hmmm really? those would be the hardcore porn fans lol


                hey Elvis not sure I have you on icq anymore pimp.

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                • Matt_WildCash
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1699

                  #9
                  Dunno if anyone else notices this, but the first 20-25 days of the month are usually really good, then the last 5-10 days of the month the scrubbing goes UP! I guess thats to make sure the IPSP doesn't go over 1% overall or something. Seems to reset at the start of the month. Also if you go over 0.6% chargeback ratio's your individual scrubbing on your account goes up and you lose another 20% worth of sales. OUCH!

                  Scrubbing sucks but its nessesary with the rules we all have to deal with now days I guess.

                  Get a 2nd processor if you can afford it, you'll notice a 10-12% jump in extra sales when using great cascading software like NATS

                  Try the New XMovies.com and make more $$$ with your Traffic

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                  • Rinaldo
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 5086

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ElvisManson
                    Your processor has multiple accounts like yours they do billing for ( duh, I know I am stating the obvious). Part of their strategy to manage their overall chargebacks is to "Scrub" the attempted sign ups against a variety of databases. Fraud, history of charging back using that credit card etc...

                    hit me on ICQ..I might be able to make a few suggestions.


                    You're sexy when you give pointers

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                    • ElvisManson
                      Looking California
                      • Feb 2001
                      • 5476

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rinaldo
                      You're sexy when you give pointers
                      need any?

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                      • bigdog
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 6964

                        #12
                        Are you seeing more sales on your own site vs pushing other sponsors yet?

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                        • Martin
                          "Assassins"
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 17274

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bigdog
                          Are you seeing more sales on your own site vs pushing other sponsors yet?
                          Yes. The only sponsor better then my site is Naughty America but thats because I have about 10,000 galleries out there for them lol.

                          Im not going to be pushing anything but my own stuff from now on. Unless it's really hot.

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                          • Desperate Andy
                            Confirmed User
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 150

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Matt_WC
                            Dunno if anyone else notices this, but the first 20-25 days of the month are usually really good, then the last 5-10 days of the month the scrubbing goes UP! I guess thats to make sure the IPSP doesn't go over 1% overall or something. Seems to reset at the start of the month. Also if you go over 0.6% chargeback ratio's your individual scrubbing on your account goes up and you lose another 20% worth of sales. OUCH!

                            Scrubbing sucks but its nessesary with the rules we all have to deal with now days I guess.
                            Well, not really. Keep in mind that chargebacks aren't coming in realtime, they're delayed in days and sometimes months. Imagine if you're billing processor and you noticed that your overall c/b ratio raised too high this month. What would you do? If you will try to scrub harder, then you will get less transactions at the same month, i.e. your c/b ratio will be higher. Also, you can't predict how many c/b you will get from the bank by the end of month, well unless you're professional weather forecaster

                            As for the sales - we can see the stable tendency of weekly changes (depending day of the week), holidays, but not monthly changes. If customers spend less by the end of month it's not about scrubbing, I believe.
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                            • KRL
                              Entrepreneur
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 31429

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Martin
                              hmmm really? those would be the hardcore porn fans lol
                              You can offer big value specials this way as well.

                              For example try a promo;

                              "Pay By Mail and Get a Full 3 Year VIP Membership For A One Time Fee of Just $69.95."

                              Checks like that can add up to a nice amount.
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                              • fris
                                I have to go potty
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 55805

                                #16
                                what niche is your paysite? and is it exclusive?
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                                • bigdog
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 6964

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Martin
                                  Yes. The only sponsor better then my site is Naughty America but thats because I have about 10,000 galleries out there for them lol.

                                  Im not going to be pushing anything but my own stuff from now on. Unless it's really hot.
                                  congrats, i have noticed this trend lately that many of the bigger gallery guys are starting their own sites

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                                  • Dalai lama
                                    Strength and Honor
                                    • Jul 2004
                                    • 16540

                                    #18
                                    use casade billing.

                                    A program you can trust.
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                                    • David - PG
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2004
                                      • 767

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Matt_WC
                                      Dunno if anyone else notices this, but the first 20-25 days of the month are usually really good, then the last 5-10 days of the month the scrubbing goes UP!
                                      It's not the scrub that goes up. It just a higher chance for the average joe to have their card maxxed out by the end of the month. He will get declined - non sufficient funds.
                                      perfectgonzo.com

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                                      • Markit
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 1305

                                        #20
                                        good boy

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