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  • Brujah
    Beer Money Baron
    • Jan 2001
    • 22157

    #1

    DH, Wizzo, WiredGuy, Lars, Juicy, etc..

    No drama. Just a thread to understand the reasoning behind it.

    Why do they post at all to defend the spyware/adware, torrent sites, etc..? Do any of them own spyware or torrent sites? What motivation is there to encourage more people to use these methods for promotion? Wouldn't it just dilute their own campaigns? Why bother? The aggressive defense of these practices is what keeps people replying and flooding the forum with so many threads about it.
  • WiredGuy
    Pounding Googlebot
    • Aug 2002
    • 34512

    #2
    I haven't defended bit torrents or spyware. Adware, yes, because its legal and has a lot of misconception about it. I don't see anything wrong with software being distributed freely which is supported by advertising. Lots of people put adware and spyware in the same category and it simply isn't true.
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    • Jace
      FBOP Class Of 2013
      • Jan 2004
      • 35562

      #3
      Originally posted by WiredGuy
      I haven't defended bit torrents or spyware. Adware, yes, because its legal and has a lot of misconception about it. I don't see anything wrong with software being distributed freely which is supported by advertising. Lots of people put adware and spyware in the same category and it simply isn't true.
      WG
      you also have to realize there are two types of adware...that which was installed by an exe that someone intentionally clicked on to install that ad supported software, and that which installed without permission that pops ads on a users screen

      both are adware, but one is perfectly fine, while the other is malicious

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      • Juicy D. Links
        So Fucking Banned
        • Apr 2001
        • 122992

        #4
        between the 5 of us , we run a ring of torrent sites that will blow your mind away.

        DH is our spokesman
        Wired Guy is the programmer
        Wizzo is there to give guidance
        Lars is there to keep me company
        I am there just to look good and be eye candy

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        • fris
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          • Aug 2002
          • 55729

          #5
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          • jonesy
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2003
            • 6688

            #6
            Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
            between the 5 of us , we run a ring of torrent sites that will blow your mind away.

            DH is our spokesman
            Wired Guy is the programmer
            Wizzo is there to give guidance
            Lars is there to keep me company
            I am there just to look good and be eye candy
            .
            Shooting Bikini Girls

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            • Sean
              revolutionforce.com
              • Jun 2003
              • 2909

              #7
              Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
              between the 5 of us , we run a ring of torrent sites that will blow your mind away.

              DH is our spokesman
              Wired Guy is the programmer
              Wizzo is there to give guidance
              Lars is there to keep me company
              I am there just to look good and be eye candy
              can boneprone and i have a job?
              -sean
              skype: sean.a.christian
              sean @ revolutionforce.com

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              • Juicy D. Links
                So Fucking Banned
                • Apr 2001
                • 122992

                #8
                Originally posted by Irish Pimp
                can boneprone and i have a job?
                Yes please forward me resume

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                • Juicy D. Links
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 122992

                  #9

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                  • Digipimp
                    BP4L OT DL
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 13481

                    #10
                    so where does it begin and end. arent torrents practically an extension of tgp. i mean a tgp site has thousands of pics and videos for free, its just sponsor approved. i remember back when programs were picky about tgp and now 9 out of 10 will give you every bit of content they have to use for it.

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                    • Evil E
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 3201

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Digipimp
                      so where does it begin and end. arent torrents practically an extension of tgp. i mean a tgp site has thousands of pics and videos for free, its just sponsor approved. i remember back when programs were picky about tgp and now 9 out of 10 will give you every bit of content they have to use for it.
                      Sure a TGP has a lot of pics and movies, but those are samples.


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                      • seeric
                        ..........
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 41917

                        #12
                        i want job tooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


                        i will get the bitches for everyone

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                        • DamageX
                          Marketing & Strategy
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 14293

                          #13
                          Originally posted by knewon
                          Sure a TGP has a lot of pics and movies, but those are samples.
                          They're still pretty much giving away the cow while trying to sell the milk.

                          Regardless, the main difference here is the stamp of approval given to TGP's, to which sponsor cater by offering free content in various forms, while torrent sites blatantly rip entire sites without anyone's approval.
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                          • Juicy D. Links
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Apr 2001
                            • 122992

                            #14
                            Originally posted by A1R3K
                            i want job tooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


                            i will get the bitches for everyone
                            woofie can be the bitches scout.

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                            • tony299
                              lurker
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 57021

                              #15
                              I have never seen Juicy defend any of this, he jokes not in the happiest of threads but no support.

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                              • Voodoo
                                ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 10600

                                #16
                                It's all badware to me.

                                "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

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                                • Digipimp
                                  BP4L OT DL
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 13481

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by DamageX
                                  They're still pretty much giving away the cow while trying to sell the milk.

                                  Regardless, the main difference here is the stamp of approval given to TGP's, to which sponsor cater by offering free content in various forms, while torrent sites blatantly rip entire sites without anyone's approval.
                                  not much difference, tgp opened up because people pushed it and did it like this. because big tgps threw up tons and tons of content and got sales. bottom line is and has always been money. tgp didnt always have such massive approval, much less have so many programs that will give you virtually their entire collection of content to use for it however you choose. im just saying its not a huge jump and you're all not so clean.

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                                  • Juicy D. Links
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Apr 2001
                                    • 122992

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by tony404
                                    I have never seen Juicy defend any of this, he jokes not in the happiest of threads but no support.

                                    i think i might have said something but i have been "high" with weed last few days , not sure when or if i said not sure tbh

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                                    • Juicy D. Links
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Apr 2001
                                      • 122992

                                      #19
                                      i amm about to roll a joint soon also.

                                      after 8 pm dont pay attention to anything i say

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                                      • Humpy Leftnut
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                                        • Apr 2007
                                        • 1292

                                        #20
                                        It really takes you 15 minutes to get high? ;)
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                                        • Juicy D. Links
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Apr 2001
                                          • 122992

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Humpy Leftnut
                                          It really takes you 15 minutes to get high? ;)
                                          nah like 3 puffs , i am n00b puffer

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                                          • wyldworx
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Dec 2006
                                            • 5144

                                            #22
                                            juicy, you are going bald. Me on the other hand, well, there's some eyecandy!!

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                                            • Juicy D. Links
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Apr 2001
                                              • 122992

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by wyldworx
                                              juicy, you are going bald. Me on the other hand, well, there's some eyecandy!!
                                              u high????????// i got a full set up hairrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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                                              • Xenophage
                                                Registered User
                                                • Oct 2001
                                                • 12122

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
                                                between the 5 of us , we run a ring of torrent sites that will blow your mind away.

                                                DH is our spokesman
                                                Wired Guy is the programmer
                                                Wizzo is there to give guidance
                                                Lars is there to keep me company
                                                I am there just to look good and be eye candy
                                                And what good eye candy you are

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                                                • Xenophage
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                  • 12122

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                  i want job tooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


                                                  i will get the bitches for everyone


                                                  We always need some stand up guys

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                                                  • Sean
                                                    revolutionforce.com
                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                    • 2909

                                                    #26
                                                    what the fuck is my job going to be?
                                                    -sean
                                                    skype: sean.a.christian
                                                    sean @ revolutionforce.com

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                                                    • Jman
                                                      Already an AI veteran
                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                      • 22832

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
                                                      between the 5 of us , we run a ring of torrent sites that will blow your mind away.

                                                      DH is our spokesman
                                                      Wired Guy is the programmer
                                                      Wizzo is there to give guidance
                                                      Lars is there to keep me company
                                                      I am there just to look good and be eye candy
                                                      Yo Juicy, you'll need a frenchy in there... OUI OUI!!!!!!
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                                                      • Xenophage
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                        • 12122

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Irish Pimp
                                                        what the fuck is my job going to be?
                                                        Burning bandwidth as usual

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                                                        • LadyMischief
                                                          Orgasms N Such!
                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                          • 18135

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Digipimp
                                                          not much difference, tgp opened up because people pushed it and did it like this. because big tgps threw up tons and tons of content and got sales. bottom line is and has always been money. tgp didnt always have such massive approval, much less have so many programs that will give you virtually their entire collection of content to use for it however you choose. im just saying its not a huge jump and you're all not so clean.
                                                          TGP is a different situation, they have direct control over the content on their sites (even if they choose not to exercise it). There's accountability there. Torrent sites don't really have this kind of control.. they can block searches, etc, but they aren't directly in control of the content that's offered on their sites. Not even the same kind of business model.

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                                                          • Rankings
                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                            • 10633

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                            I haven't defended bit torrents or spyware. Adware, yes, because its legal and has a lot of misconception about it. I don't see anything wrong with software being distributed freely which is supported by advertising. Lots of people put adware and spyware in the same category and it simply isn't true.
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                                                            • Tryme
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                              • 596

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                              TGP is a different situation, they have direct control over the content on their sites (even if they choose not to exercise it). There's accountability there. Torrent sites don't really have this kind of control.. they can block searches, etc, but they aren't directly in control of the content that's offered on their sites. Not even the same kind of business model.
                                                              Tgp's started out as illegally linking to content, sorta like what torrents do now.

                                                              Maybe you weren't around, or didn't make avs sites... I lost over $4000 due to Thehun and Al4a.

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                                                              • kektex
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2005
                                                                • 1813

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Tryme
                                                                Tgp's started out as illegally linking to content, sorta like what torrents do now.

                                                                Maybe you weren't around, or didn't make avs sites... I lost over $4000 due to Thehun and Al4a.
                                                                ANd you took some sort of action and you knew how to stop getting ripped off by TGPs.
                                                                How do you stop a bunch of surfers from sharing complete site rips?
                                                                exgfmovies.com, exgfclips.com, datesx.com, gayboards.com and more!

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                                                                • Tryme
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                  • 596

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by kektex
                                                                  ANd you took some sort of action and you knew how to stop getting ripped off by TGPs.
                                                                  How do you stop a bunch of surfers from sharing complete site rips?
                                                                  $4000 later I was told to put up a .htacess, to stop it, but that only stopped a few of the sites not all.

                                                                  Sponsors can find a way to work with Torrent Sites too. Shouldn't you expect them to do the same? You are telling me I was supposed to be able to stop them from fucking me. It wasn't like Thehun emailed you and said, hey I wanted to link your shit, but if you want to stop it, add a htaccess.

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                                                                  • kektex
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Mar 2005
                                                                    • 1813

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Tryme
                                                                    $4000 later I was told to put up a .htacess, to stop it, but that only stopped a few of the sites not all.

                                                                    Sponsors can find a way to work with Torrent Sites too. Shouldn't you expect them to do the same? You are telling me I was supposed to be able to stop them from fucking me. It wasn't like Thehun emailed you and said, hey I wanted to link your shit, but if you want to stop it, add a htaccess.
                                                                    I don´t know man, maybe I´m not that smart but I fail to see how a sponsor can compete against people that are uploading complete site rips...
                                                                    Sure maybe you can flood the P2P networks with teaser videos and stuff. But then the surfer just does a search, orders the results by size and boom...you´ve got a 1.2GB site rip ready to download.
                                                                    I highly doubt he´s gonna pull out his credit card...
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                                                                    • DaddyHalbucks
                                                                      A freakin' legend!
                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                      • 18975

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
                                                                      between the 5 of us , we run a ring of torrent sites that will blow your mind away.

                                                                      DH is our spokesman
                                                                      Wired Guy is the programmer
                                                                      Wizzo is there to give guidance
                                                                      Lars is there to keep me company
                                                                      I am there just to look good and be eye candy
                                                                      Juicy, your above post also proves you are the brains and comic relief behind the operation.

                                                                      We all know you are great looking, but you don't need to be so modest about your other talents.

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                                                                      • Digipimp
                                                                        BP4L OT DL
                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                        • 13481

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Tryme
                                                                        Tgp's started out as illegally linking to content, sorta like what torrents do now.

                                                                        Maybe you weren't around, or didn't make avs sites... I lost over $4000 due to Thehun and Al4a.
                                                                        thank you, thats exactly what im saying. these people just cant make the connection.

                                                                        tgp wasnt always looked in such a friendly way as i said and now a sponsor will practically give you all of the content they have, full videos, entire photo sets and let you tgp the shit out of it. but they're crying about this, its the same thing over again. they only bitch when they're not in it and making money from it, but they'll exploit this and a few years from now it will be accepted and all these cry babies will be bitching about something else.

                                                                        youre all greedy and dirty whether you like it or not on some level

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                                                                        • nikooo
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Apr 2007
                                                                          • 1199

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                          i want job tooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


                                                                          i will get the bitches for everyone

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                                                                          • donkevlar
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Sep 2006
                                                                            • 4325

                                                                            #38
                                                                            People need to either join with the torrent sites in some way or come up with a product worth purchasing.
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                                                                            • crockett
                                                                              in a van by the river
                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                              • 76818

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Digipimp
                                                                              so where does it begin and end. arent torrents practically an extension of tgp. i mean a tgp site has thousands of pics and videos for free, its just sponsor approved. i remember back when programs were picky about tgp and now 9 out of 10 will give you every bit of content they have to use for it.
                                                                              The difference is, TGP aren't used to pirate software and they don't engorge theft or offer up full length porn DVD or site rips. Torrents are not just another way to market, they are part of the downward spiral of this industry.
                                                                              Last edited by crockett; 05-01-2007, 02:46 AM.
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                                                                              • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                • 122992

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Irish Pimp
                                                                                what the fuck is my job going to be?
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                                                                                • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                  • 122992

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Tryme
                                                                                  $4000 later I was told to put up a .htacess, to stop it, but that only stopped a few of the sites not all.

                                                                                  Sponsors can find a way to work with Torrent Sites too. Shouldn't you expect them to do the same? You are telling me I was supposed to be able to stop them from fucking me. It wasn't like Thehun emailed you and said, hey I wanted to link your shit, but if you want to stop it, add a htaccess.
                                                                                  you could have hit em back with reverse DDOs attack

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                                                                                  • Max Cheese
                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                    • May 2007
                                                                                    • 52

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    this thread turned funny

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                                                                                    • boneprone
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                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                      • 34415

                                                                                      #43
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                                                                                      • jhauser
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                                        • 2924

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
                                                                                        between the 5 of us , we run a ring of torrent sites that will blow your mind away.

                                                                                        DH is our spokesman
                                                                                        Wired Guy is the programmer
                                                                                        Wizzo is there to give guidance
                                                                                        Lars is there to keep me company
                                                                                        I am there just to look good and be eye candy
                                                                                        Wizzo told me he was the fluff boy. Maybe he has 2 roles. lol
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                                                                                        • Digipimp
                                                                                          BP4L OT DL
                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                          • 13481

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                          The difference is, TGP aren't used to pirate software and they don't engorge theft or offer up full length porn DVD or site rips. Torrents are not just another way to market, they are part of the downward spiral of this industry.
                                                                                          its only downhill if youre not making money on it. if all these people knew how to make money off it they would be doing it. but they'd rather cry and claim to have biz ethics and they're mostly all full of shit and will cave just the way they have with tgp, mgp and everything else prior.

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                                                                                          • mattz
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                                                            • 7697

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Digipimp
                                                                                            so where does it begin and end. arent torrents practically an extension of tgp. i mean a tgp site has thousands of pics and videos for free, its just sponsor approved. i remember back when programs were picky about tgp and now 9 out of 10 will give you every bit of content they have to use for it.
                                                                                            Yeah tgps have free pics and movies, but torrent sites have free full length movies. I never saw a TGP with full length movies, it would be pointless, they woudln't be able to send any joins if they did. Tgps / Mgps just give out samples.

                                                                                            Their is a big difference

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                                                                                            • Brujah
                                                                                              Beer Money Baron
                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                              • 22157

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Which TGP or MGP will be the first to offer complete site rips and full length dvd quality movies?

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                                                                                              • Digipimp
                                                                                                BP4L OT DL
                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                • 13481

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by mattz
                                                                                                Yeah tgps have free pics and movies, but torrent sites have free full length movies. I never saw a TGP with full length movies, it would be pointless, they woudln't be able to send any joins if they did. Tgps / Mgps just give out samples.

                                                                                                Their is a big difference
                                                                                                guess people dont remember when tgp was a bad thing and things progressed, and we had sponsors give out a small amount of content for tgp pics, then they gave out all their pics to use for tgp, then video clips, 10 seconds, 20 seconds, then 30, then 2 minutes and so on, now a few sponsors have tools to put 10 to 20 minute videos on your site for free. if you cant see the progression and all the whining and crying is about being left out of the money then you've missed it all along.

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                                                                                                • Jakke PNG
                                                                                                  ex-TeenGodFather
                                                                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                                                                  • 20306

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Tryme
                                                                                                  Tgp's started out as illegally linking to content, sorta like what torrents do now.

                                                                                                  Maybe you weren't around, or didn't make avs sites... I lost over $4000 due to Thehun and Al4a.
                                                                                                  There's a BIG fucking difference to deeplinking a fucking gallery or sharing a whole members-area. While the argument "they should have had better protection" holds true in both cases, there's pretty much nothing a guy can do to torrent links, they're up there and out of your control. When you got an AVS gallery deeplinke, you could just rename that folder and redirect to your 'sales page'.

                                                                                                  Also, I do understand most of you are in the states. But deeplinking to a non-protected directory is not illegal. But it IS illegal to download or seed torrents with unlicensed material in finland, and finnish trackers have been raided and shut down. Sweden apparently has different laws, and so do the states (I assume?)
                                                                                                  ..and I'm off.

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                                                                                                  • Jakke PNG
                                                                                                    ex-TeenGodFather
                                                                                                    • Nov 2001
                                                                                                    • 20306

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Also, TGP's are a business. TGP owners share 'enough' content to keep visitors happy but still make money. Torrent USERS are people who just want to share content, for free, without any financial gain. They just want as much for 100% free as they can...that is if we take piratebay etc trackers and rapidshare and the like out of the equation who are making a buck out of it. The USERS of these services, the 'surfers' who do the actual surfing aren't intrested whether anyone makes money or not.

                                                                                                    TGP owners do care. (or atleast should care)
                                                                                                    ..and I'm off.

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