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10-15-2005, 02:26 PM

"The American Civil Liberties Union of Florida said it filed a lawsuit on Thursday in Hillsborough Circuit Court, hoping to stop officials from conducting "suspicionless" searches that began last month after the NFL implemented enhanced security at stadiums throughout the league."

Private searches, on private property, by private security officers.

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10-15-2005, 02:52 PM

yeah DAMN them for trying to stop public officials from treating like us shit!!

I say "Police state? BRING IT ON!!!"
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10-15-2005, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by broke

Private searches, on private property, by private security officers.

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I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....
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10-15-2005, 02:57 PM

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yeah DAMN them for trying to stop public officials from treating like us shit!!

Public officials? Crawl back under your rock.

The basis of the suit is this guy didn't know when he resigned for season tickets that he might be subject to search when entering PRIVATE PROPERTY.

Blah blah blah, public officials blah..,

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10-15-2005, 02:59 PM

Private searches, on private property, by private security officers.

You are confusing "private/public property" and a "private/public place". Private property can be a public place - a sports stadium being a good example. The owners of the stadium cannot do absolutely anything they want. For example, should a football team who owns their own stadium be able to have a policy and put up a sign that says "no jews allowed" because it is "private property"? I don't think so. Good for the ACLU. You Americans are such pussies when it comes to your rights, so someone's got to stand up for you. You Americans all bitch and complain about liberals and the ACLU, but your country would basically be a hybrid mix of pre-war Nazi Germany and apartheid-era South Africa without them.
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10-15-2005, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by coolegg2

You are confusing "private/public property" and a "private/public place".

He honestly confuses a lot of things... But to his defense, would you think clearly while probed up your ass by some " private " rent-a-cop ?

I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....
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10-15-2005, 03:12 PM

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10-15-2005, 03:12 PM

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Good for the ACLU. You Americans are such pussies when it comes to your rights, so someone's got to stand up for you.

'cool'gg2 -- when I need you or the ACLU to stand up for me.. I'll let one of you know.

Of all the things happening in the US right now, do you honestly believe that the best use of ACLU resources is filing suit against a private company that decided to pat down people (based on the edict of their parent company) before they set foot on private property.

This happens in 14 cities every weekend without complaint -- thank goodness Tampa has a responsible civics teacher and an ACLU chapter.

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10-15-2005, 03:16 PM

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Of all the things happening in the US right now, d

What things .... ?????

You are going to " pat down" people to see if the have hidden hurricanes ?????

Oh, you refer to the false and fabricated terror threat of the NY subway ...

I hold , from good unknown sources, that the Golden Gate bridge will be blown up on Friday the 28th of october at 18:00 ... They will use a silver car, of japanese make ...

I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....
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10-15-2005, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by directfiesta

He honestly confuses a lot of things... But to his defense, would you think clearly while probed up your ass by some " private " rent-a-cop ?

Is this your second attempt an agitating me?

You have no more right to enter the Glazer's stadium than you have to enter my house once the invitation is rescinded.

Like I said -- it's great that the dopes that run the ACLU are focused on this and dopes like directfiesta have their 'back'.

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10-15-2005, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by directfiesta

What things .... ?????

You are going to " pat down" people to see if the have hidden hurricanes ?????

Oh, you refer to the false and fabricated terror threat of the NY subway ...

I hold , from good unknown sources, that the Golden Gate bridge will be blown up on Friday the 28th of october at 18:00 ... They will use a silver car, of japanese make ...

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10-15-2005, 03:31 PM

GOOD!

These searches are out of control. They are a false sense of security anyway.
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10-15-2005, 04:15 PM

I'm a card carrying member of the ACLU, i suggest you all join, $35 suggested, but you can give $5

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10-15-2005, 04:23 PM

i'd rather be at a football game where they searched everyone prior to entry, rather than at one where they were not searched. Makes perfect sense. what's the big deal, if the persons got nothing to hide? so what. Those searches are conducted for a reason. to stop any threats against safety, bodily injury, etc.

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10-15-2005, 04:28 PM

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I'm a card carrying member of the ACLU, i suggest you all join, $35 suggested, but you can give $5

I'll get right on that... the ACLU is doing my work.

I loved their last two actions:

"In response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado the Department of Corrections (DOC) has agreed to resume providing kosher meals to Timothy Sheline, a Jewish prisoner whose kosher diet was revoked for one year as punishment for allegedly violating a dining hall rule"

"The suit was filed in Wake County Superior Court on July 26 on behalf of the organization's roughly 8,000 members statewide. Some of them are Muslims and Jews who would prefer to use religious texts other than the Christian Bible for courtroom oaths, Cohen said Wednesday."

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10-15-2005, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by broke

I'll get right on that... the ACLU is doing my work.

I loved their last two actions:

"In response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado the Department of Corrections (DOC) has agreed to resume providing kosher meals to Timothy Sheline, a Jewish prisoner whose kosher diet was revoked for one year as punishment for allegedly violating a dining hall rule"

"The suit was filed in Wake County Superior Court on July 26 on behalf of the organization's roughly 8,000 members statewide. Some of them are Muslims and Jews who would prefer to use religious texts other than the Christian Bible for courtroom oaths, Cohen said Wednesday."

I would give a long involved post explaining how the ACLU protects the rights of both conservative and liberal groups and how they're often the only group with deep enough pockets and legal firepower to prevent govt. abuse of power, but I won't, because you're a total fucking idiot.

Just look at your president. All you conservatives are idiots. Get out of my country before you ruin it.
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10-15-2005, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by broke

"The American Civil Liberties Union of Florida said it filed a lawsuit on Thursday in Hillsborough Circuit Court, hoping to stop officials from conducting "suspicionless" searches that began last month after the NFL implemented enhanced security at stadiums throughout the league."

Private searches, on private property, by private security officers.

Not to mention that stadiums are almost always built with local tax dollars.

Oh but that's right, you conservatives have no problem with giving money to rich people, it's giving money to poor people that gets your panties in a bunch.

I thought you conservatives were all about the individual. Why are you so wet and ready to bend over and let the government probe your anus all of a sudden? Because you want to have sex with Georgie? That's all it takes? Put on a cowboy hat and pretend to be a bronco buster and you go all weak in the knees and give up the Bill of Rights?

God I hate you guys.

Get out of my country.
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10-15-2005, 05:15 PM

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God I hate you guys.

Get out of my country.

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10-15-2005, 05:21 PM

This is just like when everyone bashed the ACLU for defending Rush Limbaugh.

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10-15-2005, 05:23 PM

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This is just like when everyone bashed the ACLU for defending Rush Limbaugh.

Oh wai

yes, some seem to think that freedoms and rights and even a democratic government should only exist when it agrees with them
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10-15-2005, 05:24 PM

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freedom and democracy according to dig420.
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Funny!

You notice the "you" and "them" crap? Nuff said

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10-15-2005, 05:36 PM

It's amazing how the ACLU is ushering in a police state while most people think that they are fighting it

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10-15-2005, 07:10 PM

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It's amazing how the ACLU is ushering in a police state while most people think that they are fighting it

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I would be very very interested in hearing a solid, well-founded theory behind that statement. But I won't.
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10-15-2005, 07:13 PM

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freedom and democracy according to dig420.
nice.

Yep, I don't like people voting to eradicate the Bill of Rights. If you like Big Brother, that's fine, but don't invite him to my house.

Conservatives aren't a good fit for this country. We're not religious enough as a society for them, and we have too many hippies who think they can just run down the government whenever they want. Obviously, all conservatives should move to Iraq and seed the new 'democracy' they're going to have over there. They surely love the Arabs enough to go help them out, seeing as they're all willing to spend another 200 BILLION of our dollars to 'free' them.
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10-15-2005, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by dig420

Yep, I don't like people voting to eradicate the Bill of Rights. If you like Big Brother, that's fine, but don't invite him to my house.

what do your uncontained, unchecked, emotional outbursts and hatred towards republicans have to do with security at a pro football stadium?
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10-15-2005, 08:29 PM

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10-15-2005, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Pleasurepays

what do your uncontained, unchecked, emotional outbursts and hatred towards republicans have to do with security at a pro football stadium?

the fact that in 2000 there was no need for it, then a couple ragheads flew a plane into a fucking building (big fucking deal) now they use it as an excuse for orange level & frisking your asshole at the airport

its bullshit

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10-15-2005, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by pr0

I'm a card carrying member of the ACLU, i suggest you all join, $35 suggested, but you can give $5

do you care that your money is used to protect NAMBLA and other pedos? Doesn't the ACLU support virtual child porn and obtaining real child porn and label it "victim less"? The ACLU has an agenda, and once you realize that you'll understand they aren't here to protect the little guy but to push their wacko agenda on the us via activist judges who use their position to change the law rather then interpret and enforce it.

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10-15-2005, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by pr0

the fact that in 2000 there was no need for it, then a couple ragheads flew a plane into a fucking building (big fucking deal) now they use it as an excuse for orange level & frisking your asshole at the airport

its bullshit

america is free.....that means you don't grab my nuts walking into see the redskins

its so free that i can protest the lack of border enforcement and join the minutemen right? oh wait, the ACLU was against that. America is so free i can let my children play outside without worrying about serial child molesters grabbing them right? oh wait, the ACLU is against mandatory sentences for child molesters and praise giving 2 years per child as a punishment. Congrats on being a card carrying ACLU member, I'm sure you sleep well at night.

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10-15-2005, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by pr0

the fact that in 2000 there was no need for it, then a couple ragheads flew a plane into a fucking building (big fucking deal) now they use it as an excuse for orange level & frisking your asshole at the airport

its bullshit

america is free.....that means you don't grab my nuts walking into see the redskins

yeah your right. completely silly idea to think that something could happen in a place where 60,000 people are packed tightly together. why would they need security at all.
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10-15-2005, 09:20 PM

doing drugs while pregnant is not a crime!
http://www.aclu-md.org/aPress/Press%...1905_Cruz.html

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10-15-2005, 09:58 PM

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i'd rather be at a football game where they searched everyone prior to entry

Yeah and the grocery store would also be a safer place if everyone was searched before entry.

At some point you have to draw the line with searches.

Airplanes, fine. But they are even searching 12yo kids at teenie bopper concerts now. It's nuts.
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10-15-2005, 10:08 PM

thats the exact point, where does it end? the searches at the stadiums & concerts, the airports, the clubs, gentlemans clubs, schools

you do all realize we live in a police state

and if the ACLU "protects the little guy" you better help them out, because theres only a few thousand of you out there peddling anal sex vids & your names already on a list

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10-15-2005, 10:10 PM

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doing drugs while pregnant is not a crime!
http://www.aclu-md.org/aPress/Press%...1905_Cruz.html

While not in any way condoning the use of drugs while women are pregnant or caring for children, these concerned organizations and individuals know that it is dangerous and counterproductive to arrest and prosecute pregnant women and new mothers. ?Drug dependency is a medical condition ? not a crime?

Read the fucking article you doormat

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10-15-2005, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by pr0

you do all realize we live in a police state

better airport security = police state?

funny... no one is complaining about it. i guess you will have to get ready to dust off your "you're all just fucking sheep" arguments.
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10-15-2005, 11:22 PM

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While not in any way condoning the use of drugs while women are pregnant or caring for children, these concerned organizations and individuals know that it is dangerous and counterproductive to arrest and prosecute pregnant women and new mothers. ?Drug dependency is a medical condition ? not a crime?

Read the fucking article you doormat

did you even read what i said? i said their stance is doing drugs is a medical condition, not a crime. just like molesting children is a chemical imbalance and should be treated rather then punished. fuck the ACLU and their bullshit ways of dealing with shit. instead of promoting preventative measures they bash them and label them as restrictions on freedom. great idea ACLU, lets have government funded OPTIONAL and VOLUNTARY rehab programs instead of locking up these idiots and force them to clean up while pregnant. Let them have their drug addicted retarded babies instead of forcing treatment or an abortion and then we get to pay the bills to treat these kids who need medical care the rest of their often short lives. AWESOME!!! Lets also ban teachers from wearing crosses in schools because them being an authoritative presence in the classroom some how translates into promotion of religion. i dont want these bible thumpers pushing their shit on me, but at the same time i dont have the right to make them hide all symbols of their religion and ban them from the public because i think they're idiots. hypocrites piss me off, and the ACLU is THE biggest organization who preach it. Free speech is absolute unless its about religion or anything else we disagree with. Drug addiction mothers should get treatment instead of jail time but principals who allow students to start a bible club at school should be arrest and sent away for life.

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10-15-2005, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by bringer

do you care that your money is used to protect NAMBLA and other pedos? Doesn't the ACLU support virtual child porn and obtaining real child porn and label it "victim less"? The ACLU has an agenda, and once you realize that you'll understand they aren't here to protect the little guy but to push their wacko agenda on the us via activist judges who use their position to change the law rather then interpret and enforce it.

"ACLU - We protect the little guy*"

*ONLY IF WE AGREE WITH THEIR CAUSE

please don't be a fucking TOTAL idiot if you're going to post. The normal 7/8 of an idiot is about all I can stand.

The ACLU protects the rights of everybody. Nazis, NAMBLA, you name it. They protect speech of any kind that stops short of shouting fire in a crowded theater. If you think the mere existence of an organization like NAMBLA is sufficient reason to give up your individual liberties, then YOU give them up. Move to China. How the hell do you even come up with something like that? How does such a dumb idea get thru even your internal filter? Because bad people exist, like NAMBLA, EVERYBODY has to live in a police state?? Fuck that lol, that's completely ignorant.

Pleasurepays, I like John McCain a fair percentage of the time. Certainly more than I like some Democrats, so what does that do to your theory? You're just as much an idiot for accomodating an idiot - like the typical conservative - as the original idiot. This country is going to hell in a handbasket and people like you are sitting around trying to be 'reasonable and fair' while the conservatives fuck you up the ass with abandon.

Personally, when someone is sticking a dick in my ass I don't like it. I YELL. If more dems did we wouldn't be in the position we're in now, with an incompetent rich boy in a cowboy hat ruining our economy and our world standing as a just nation.
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10-15-2005, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by Pleasurepays

better airport security = police state?

funny... no one is complaining about it. i guess you will have to get ready to dust off your "you're all just fucking sheep" arguments.

you ARE a fucking sheep.
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10-15-2005, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by dig420

please don't be a fucking TOTAL idiot if you're going to post. The normal 7/8 of an idiot is about all I can stand.

The ACLU protects the rights of everybody. Nazis, NAMBLA, you name it. They protect speech of any kind that stops short of shouting fire in a crowded theater. If you think the mere existence of an organization like NAMBLA is sufficient reason to give up your individual liberties, then YOU give them up. Move to China. How the hell do you even come up with something like that? How does such a dumb idea get thru even your internal filter? Because bad people exist, like NAMBLA, EVERYBODY has to live in a police state?? Fuck that lol, that's completely ignorant.

you believing my opinion that people who teach others ways to successfully molest children should be stopped is some how equal to living in a police state. That's quite disturbing. If you really think the ACLU stands up for everyone then provide me with some examples where they've defended a conservative who's been screwed. oh wait, they cant represent both sides in court so that'd be impossible. They only protect speech they agree with, nothing more. the sad thing is you KNOW that and refuse to admit it.

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10-16-2005, 12:08 AM

here you go dig420
http://www.aclufl.org/news_events/ar...test021303.cfm
http://www.aclu.org/ImmigrantsRights...?ID=19224&c=22

its ok to make a nude peace sign in a public park but rednecks cant sit in lawn chairs along the border? its ok to protest the war anyway possible but you cant protest the lack border situation by sitting there with news cameras deterring people from entering the country illegally? you were right! the ACLU does stand up for EVERYONE and their right to protest!!! what agenda?

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10-16-2005, 12:14 AM

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here you go dig420
http://www.aclufl.org/news_events/ar...test021303.cfm
http://www.aclu.org/ImmigrantsRights...?ID=19224&c=22

its ok to make a nude peace sign in a public park but rednecks cant sit in lawn chairs along the border? its ok to protest the war anyway possible but you cant protest the lack border situation by sitting there with news cameras deterring people from entering the country illegally? you were right! the ACLU does stand up for EVERYONE and their right to protest!!! what agenda?

google 'nazis skokie aclu' then 'limbaugh aclu' and that's all the help you're getting from me. The most irritating things about you conservatives is that you never ever ever bother to educate yourself, even a little bit. This information isn't hard to find. The rest of the information you need to realize that conservative politicians are uniformly evil people who don't believe anything they preach to the masses exploiting the less intellectually gifted half of the population for votes is readily available too. Impress yourself. Start reading something.

I'm guessing you must be an native american indian since your panties are all in a bunch about immigrants huh?

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10-16-2005, 12:16 AM

and by the way bringer: You're a surfer. This is a WEBMASTER board. wtf are you doing still here?
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10-16-2005, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by dig420

goggle 'nazis skokie aclu' then 'limbaugh aclu' and that's all the help you're getting from me. The most irritating things about you conservatives is that you never ever ever bother to educate yourself, even a little bit. This information isn't hard to find. The rest of the information you need to realize that conservative politicians are uniformly evil people who don't believe anything they preach to the masses exploiting the less intellectually gifted half of the population for votes is readily available too. Impress yourself. Start reading something.

I'm guessing you must be an native american indian since your panties are all in a bunch about immigrants huh?

i knew of the limbaugh aclu episode, which was only a publicity stunt. the aclu doesnt offer its services to people who can defend themselves which libaugh obviously can. after constant aclu bashing they got him back which was quite funny. i think hes an idiot. btw, liberal politicians are just as evil as conservative politicians. if you think the social programs pushed forth the the left are there to help boost people up you're sadly mistaken. they were put in place to enslave an economic class who's given a handout but not required to follow threw with the crap they added to it like working and going to school. "enjoy your free money! vote for us again and we'll add another $5 to your check!"

Originally posted by dig420

and by the way bringer: You're a surfer. This is a WEBMASTER board. wtf are you doing still here?

you obviously dont know anything about me since you're still calling me a surfer.

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10-16-2005, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by bringer

If you really think the ACLU stands up for everyone then provide me with some examples where they've defended a conservative who's been screwed.

I'm not sure why anyone would think the right has anything to gain by attempting to paint the ACLU as a left-wing organization. As has already been pointed out, the ACLU has represented even Ku Klux Klan members and neo-Nazis. And since such cases have been among their most publicized, it isn't really credible that anyone with even a superficial knowledge of the ACLU would not be aware of them.

The whole point of the ACLU is to defend the Constitution and whether they win or lose, whether those they represent are popular or not, it is beyond me why anyone who is proud of the Constitution and values it would not encourage their activities. Left and right in this context are irrelevant because while it might feel good to assume that if we lost the protection of the Constitution your freedoms and rights would be enhanced and someone else's curtailed, that is a very short-sighted assumption. Attempt to amend the Constitution by all means, but don't support abuses of it, no matter who is responsible for them.
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10-16-2005, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by jayeff

I'm not sure why anyone would think the right has anything to gain by attempting to paint the ACLU as a left-wing organization. As has already been pointed out, the ACLU has represented even Ku Klux Klan members and neo-Nazis. And since such cases have been among their most publicized, it isn't really credible that anyone with even a superficial knowledge of the ACLU would not be aware of them.

The whole point of the ACLU is to defend the Constitution and whether they win or lose, whether those they represent are popular or not, it is beyond me why anyone who is proud of the Constitution and values it would not encourage their activities. Left and right in this context are irrelevant because while it might feel good to assume that if we lost the protection of the Constitution your freedoms and rights would be enhanced and someone else's curtailed, that is a very short-sighted assumption. Attempt to amend the Constitution by all means, but don't support abuses of it, no matter who is responsible for them.

asshole! im trying to annoy dig420. thats the only reason i even posted in this thread

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10-16-2005, 02:09 AM

Originally posted by dig420

I would be very very interested in hearing a solid, well-founded theory behind that statement. But I won't.

Fact : ACLU founded by communists

Fact: Fear of ACLU lawsuits handcuff police instead of criminals, allow the nations borders to be overrun with terrorists and illegal alien criminals

Fact: ACLU lawsuits bog up the court in beauracracy costing the federal government hundreds of millions of dollars annually which could be better spent on the nations infrastructure, education system etc

POINT IS: The ACLU is creating chaos... chaos leads to police state...

Do you get it? ... doubtful

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10-16-2005, 03:49 AM

Wonder how many people in this thread bashing the ACLU will be more than willing to take their help if the shit hits the fan with 2257.
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10-16-2005, 04:39 AM

Originally posted by dig420

and by the way bringer: You're a surfer. This is a WEBMASTER board. wtf are you doing still here?

i guess he should take down all those high SE listings then, and stop sending sales to sponsors.

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10-16-2005, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by amalekite

Fact : ACLU founded by communists

Fact: Fear of ACLU lawsuits handcuff police instead of criminals, allow the nations borders to be overrun with terrorists and illegal alien criminals

Fact: ACLU lawsuits bog up the court in beauracracy costing the federal government hundreds of millions of dollars annually which could be better spent on the nations infrastructure, education system etc

POINT IS: The ACLU is creating chaos... chaos leads to police state...

Do you get it? ... doubtful

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10-16-2005, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by dig420

you ARE a fucking sheep.

you're right. you are the one with a poly sci degree from berkly who hates the democratic process and 1/2 of the voters. its clearly me with the problem.
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