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  • Evil Doer
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    • Dec 2004
    • 915
    #51
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      • LauraLee
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        • Sep 2003
        • 3821
        #52
        EDIT: nevamind! lol night all

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          • adultchica
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2005
            • 5141
            #53
            Great information, Cory.

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              • Doctor Dre
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jan 2001
                • 51692
                #54
                Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                you had me till i read that part

                How to present yourself:

                1) Avoid arguing with everyone, or posting nonsensical items at every opportunity. Just try to get along with everyone. No one cares about your dogma. But big companies looking to hire someone will always care about someone?s ability to get along with others. (That isn?t limited to this industry). I have been called an ass-kisser for the way I dress at shows and the way I try to get along with everyone. Well welcome to the real world, most of the people that say things like that make less money. That is life.




                id be nothing without my attitude, nor would brad, or that fag 12clicks or serge or FM.. I could name a ton that made themselves successful by pissing off people.. made some enemies too, but thats all part of the game..

                not saying you are wrong when it comes to an employee, but as an employer, i have to disagree..

                did any of this make sense? I just read what i wrote, and i feel more stupid now
                He's talking about employse ... most of them making 50k a year...
                Originally posted by rayadp05
                I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                  • Doctor Dre
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 51692
                    #55
                    Originally posted by WEG Cory
                    With all do respect, I disagree.

                    If you own anything (most businesses, not all), you are in sales. Pimpdog expresses his rational for it.

                    I can list many program / hosting / design company owners that treat their position as that of sales.
                    You forget one thing ... there are TONS of affiliates making a living at this ... probably more people then program owners / workers . It's thoses people he's talking about . The regular guy that makes his 700 bucks a week and is happy with not having to work in an office.

                    You are totally right about the employe part ... for most people ;)
                    Originally posted by rayadp05
                    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                      • Lensman
                        GFY Chaperone
                        • Jan 2001
                        • 9846
                        #56
                        Cory, good shit. When are you joining Playboy?

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                          • Peaches
                            Old broad
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 13933
                            #57
                            Honestly, when I was living completely on my freesites I didn't have to be nice to anyone - I was the customer. And the more traffic you have, the bigger asshole you can be and still do megabusiness. It's one of the few self employed jobs where you can get away with it, but it's true

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                              • GTS Mark
                                Vrume Mark
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 20912
                                #58
                                God did you ever hit this nail right on the head Cory!

                                Glad to see I'm not the only program owner that has to deal with this insane kind of reasoning when I am thinking of hiring within the industry.

                                DH

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                                  • GTS Mark
                                    Vrume Mark
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 20912
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                    you had me till i read that part

                                    How to present yourself:

                                    1) Avoid arguing with everyone, or posting nonsensical items at every opportunity. Just try to get along with everyone. No one cares about your dogma. But big companies looking to hire someone will always care about someone?s ability to get along with others. (That isn?t limited to this industry). I have been called an ass-kisser for the way I dress at shows and the way I try to get along with everyone. Well welcome to the real world, most of the people that say things like that make less money. That is life.

                                    id be nothing without my attitude, nor would brad, or that fag 12clicks or serge or FM.. I could name a ton that made themselves successful by pissing off people.. made some enemies too, but thats all part of the game..

                                    not saying you are wrong when it comes to an employee, but as an employer, i have to disagree..

                                    did any of this make sense? I just read what i wrote, and i feel more stupid now

                                    Trey, you and I get along just fine and I respect you for what you have done in this industry but quite honestly I know people that would'nt touch you with a 10 foot pole because of your attitude and how you handle yourself on the boards.

                                    This is not a slam, this is just a simple observation from someone that does alot of business with adult webmasters.

                                    I'm obviously far from the most professional person on the boards but the way the industry is going is consolidation and I feel alot of the unprofessional people will get the boot over the next couple of years.

                                    I'm sure you will dismiss this post but hey sometimes you get more bears with honey than with vinegar ;)

                                    DH

                                    P.S. Pimpdog I still love you

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                                      • p1mpdogg
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Nov 2002
                                        • 16714
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by DrinkingHARDER
                                        Trey, you and I get along just fine and I respect you for what you have done in this industry but quite honestly I know people that would'nt touch you with a 10 foot pole because of your attitude and how you handle yourself on the boards.

                                        This is not a slam, this is just a simple observation from someone that does alot of business with adult webmasters.

                                        I'm obviously far from the most professional person on the boards but the way the industry is going is consolidation and I feel alot of the unprofessional people will get the boot over the next couple of years.

                                        I'm sure you will dismiss this post but hey sometimes you get more bears with honey than with vinegar ;)

                                        DH

                                        P.S. Pimpdog I still love you

                                        there is a reason why Jim is the head of epiccash now and not me....

                                        hint hint

                                        i really have nothing todo with it anymore, and thats the truth..

                                        I have other things going on, and Jim is doing an excellent job at getting those ppl that wont touch me with a 10 foot pole..

                                        epiccash is strong, and growing and thats a fact
                                        Last edited by p1mpdogg; 10-13-2005, 08:49 PM.
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                                          • GTS Mark
                                            Vrume Mark
                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 20912
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                            there is a reason why Jim is the head of epiccash now and not me....

                                            hint hint

                                            i really have nothing todo with it anymore, and thats the truth..

                                            I have other things going on, and Jim is doing an excellent job at getting those ppl that wont touch me with a 10 foot pole..

                                            epiccash is strong, and growing and thats a fact
                                            Well kudos to you buddy, you have built a successful business in a market that was thought to be oversaturated and very difficult to enter into.

                                            It's nice to see that you have turned over the reigns and have entered into other exciting ventures. Someone said to me once that businesses are very fun to start and grow but very boring to maintain.

                                            All the best,
                                            DH

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                                              • quiet
                                                we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                • Sep 2001
                                                • 25115
                                                #62
                                                i would last 5 minutes having to work for a large, stable company.
                                                we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                  • Tam
                                                    Rude Bitch
                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                    • 8534
                                                    #63
                                                    This is an awesome post and I agree with you 110% on everything but one little section:

                                                    1) How long have they been around? This is key. The longer that they have been around, the more chances there are that they have expanded.
                                                    THIS isn't always true and I know better than most and from experience, this doesn't always make for a good company.Two of the companies I worked for in the past had been around for many years, had money to back them up, came to ME with very high remarks from others, I DID my homework on them and I was the one doing the interviewing, I KNEW I qualified and knew I could do the jobs. HOWEVER, these two companies ended up getting extremely greedy and walked with a LOT of peoples money, and I mean A LOT!! SOme of you know who I am talking about in both cases. Boy did I ever get slapped in the face, as well as others involved by both, and both had been around.

                                                    So don't always put your faith in a company that has been around for many years, this isn't always a safety aspect when looking for a job.

                                                    DO NOT be afraid to ask them for THEIR references, you are having to put your neck on the line as well, so don't be afraid to do some interviewing and asking for references of your own. And don't take what THEY say or their friends as references, seek out others that know them but aren't necessarily close to them.

                                                    I now work for two companies, and I couldn't be happier with either one, but it was a long road to get where I am and with the companies I am with now.

                                                    I didn't mean to go on here, I just wanted to make it clear that just because someone has been around for many years, doesn't make them a good company, or an honest one, just makes them good at what they do, scam people. Even though they always get caught, someone has to get hurt before this happens.

                                                    DO NOT be afraid to do your homework!! That's all.
                                                    Otherwise, this is one of the best posts I have seen on here in a very long time.
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                                                      • V_RocKs
                                                        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                        • 32451
                                                        #64
                                                        You forgot a key point:

                                                        If you want to make any REAL money, DON'T WORK FOR SOMEONE ELSE!

                                                        This is a big point to make. Working for someone else you are never going to make any real money. Sure you might get yourself into a position doing absolutely nothing for $50K - $70K a year. Not bad for a high school drop out (or even a college grad). But if you want to make $100K+ and especially if you are looking for something around 300K+, working for someone else is a fucking dead end.

                                                        Just about the only way you can pull off working for someone else while making 100K+ is to work from home and get innovative.

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                                                          • mrthumbs
                                                            salad tossing sig guy
                                                            • Apr 2002
                                                            • 11702
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by quiet
                                                            i would last 5 minutes having to work for a large, stable company.

                                                            Same here.

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                                                              • TDF
                                                                Triple OG nigga on GFY
                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                • 27296
                                                                #66
                                                                this should be stickied
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                                                                  • Rui
                                                                    web
                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                    • 9533
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Very well put, I think I will bookmark this thread and send many people to see it

                                                                    Rigth on the money!

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                                                                      • bigdog
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                        • 6964
                                                                        #68
                                                                        are there any affilate reps making 100k or even 200k a year?

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                                                                          • ADL Colin
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                                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                                            • 11929
                                                                            #69
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                                                                              • 12clicks
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                • 19814
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                                                id be nothing without my attitude, nor would brad, or that fag 12clicks or serge or FM.. I could name a ton that made themselves successful by pissing off people.. made some enemies too, but thats all part of the game..
                                                                                uh, I've only ever pissed off the trash of this business. You, however, couldn't comprehend the difference.
                                                                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                  • emmanuelle
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                    • 3662
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    I always get a chuckle out of people who decide in October, "Well if I want to go to internext, I'd better find a company to rep soon." I'm not gonna name names, but they're regulars, and hop from company to company.

                                                                                    I wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole- to me they are greedy opportunists, not anyone to be taken seriously as an employee.

                                                                                    Can somebody explain to me what "solid industry experience" means? I recently saw an announcement about a new hire who was credited with this. Being a bimbo on boards is not 'solid industry experience' in my opinion, but hey, maybe somebody else thinks so...
                                                                                    Last edited by emmanuelle; 10-14-2005, 06:55 AM.

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                                                                                      • ronaldo
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                                                        • 5475
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by WEG Cory

                                                                                        1) You can work from home.

                                                                                        Please read this carefully before you begin your assault on me: If you apply looking for a ?great job,? but stipulate you only want to work from home, you are probably lazy. If you have other ambitions and or obligations, then by all means, apply for a job whereas you work from your home. The difference is in stipulating it. I consistently get people asking if Weg is hiring and they immediately say ?I have to work from home though.? If you are pursued to work from home, or the job stipulates so, that is different. But don?t apply for in-house and then tell them about your 8 kids. If you are confident that you are an entrepreneur at this point in your life, by all means, work from home. (This did not include contractors, obviously).
                                                                                        Location can be a big reason why people NEED to work at home as well.

                                                                                        Originally posted by WEG Cory

                                                                                        2) They will send you to shows.

                                                                                        Believe it or not, this one never ceases to amaze me. Prospective employees think that companies should be obligated to send them to Vegas and, lets not forget, Europe every year. You are applying for a job, not a professional vacationer. My god, when I worked from home on my own, I avoided shows like the plague. You would be amazed at how many people apply for a job and ask what shows they will be sent to, or get upset if you do not guarantee a show.
                                                                                        This I disagree with vehemently. I wouldn't work for a company BECAUSE they send me to shows, but if they want me to do the job to the best of my ability, they NEED to send me to shows. There's a personal contact and credibility factor that can't be overlooked. Vegas and Miami. Those two are must attends. The rest are negotiable.

                                                                                        I don't go to shows for vacations. I bust my ass when I attend these shows. Certainly I have fun as well, but that's a distant second to the business I go to do.

                                                                                        Everything else you posted I agree with. Excellent post.

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                                                                                          • Tom_PM
                                                                                            Porn Meister
                                                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                                                            • 16443
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Good thread. I'm super lucky to be doing what I do, for who I do it for.

                                                                                            I do think it's helped being around a long time on computers, from BBS days through today. Not because of postcount++, but because of learning to communicate effectively.
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                                                                                              • natas
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                                                • 3377
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Great thread

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                                                                                                  • Cory W
                                                                                                    Deeply shallow
                                                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                                                    • 9133
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                                    You forgot a key point:

                                                                                                    If you want to make any REAL money, DON'T WORK FOR SOMEONE ELSE!

                                                                                                    This is a big point to make. Working for someone else you are never going to make any real money. Sure you might get yourself into a position doing absolutely nothing for $50K - $70K a year. Not bad for a high school drop out (or even a college grad). But if you want to make $100K+ and especially if you are looking for something around 300K+, working for someone else is a fucking dead end.

                                                                                                    Just about the only way you can pull off working for someone else while making 100K+ is to work from home and get innovative.
                                                                                                    In the end, this is correct. But many people in this industry short themselves a lot of income thinking this as well

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                                                                                                      • Cory W
                                                                                                        Deeply shallow
                                                                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                                                                        • 9133
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by Tam
                                                                                                        This is an awesome post and I agree with you 110% on everything but one little section:



                                                                                                        THIS isn't always true and I know better than most and from experience, this doesn't always make for a good company.Two of the companies I worked for in the past had been around for many years, had money to back them up, came to ME with very high remarks from others, I DID my homework on them and I was the one doing the interviewing, I KNEW I qualified and knew I could do the jobs. HOWEVER, these two companies ended up getting extremely greedy and walked with a LOT of peoples money, and I mean A LOT!! SOme of you know who I am talking about in both cases. Boy did I ever get slapped in the face, as well as others involved by both, and both had been around.

                                                                                                        So don't always put your faith in a company that has been around for many years, this isn't always a safety aspect when looking for a job.

                                                                                                        DO NOT be afraid to ask them for THEIR references, you are having to put your neck on the line as well, so don't be afraid to do some interviewing and asking for references of your own. And don't take what THEY say or their friends as references, seek out others that know them but aren't necessarily close to them.

                                                                                                        I now work for two companies, and I couldn't be happier with either one, but it was a long road to get where I am and with the companies I am with now.

                                                                                                        I didn't mean to go on here, I just wanted to make it clear that just because someone has been around for many years, doesn't make them a good company, or an honest one, just makes them good at what they do, scam people. Even though they always get caught, someone has to get hurt before this happens.

                                                                                                        DO NOT be afraid to do your homework!! That's all.
                                                                                                        Otherwise, this is one of the best posts I have seen on here in a very long time.
                                                                                                        Nice reply, there are always exceptions. I am more targeting the blahxdollars-cash.com programs that pop up daily, offer an affiliate rep the stars and moon (namely a trip to Vegas) and then go under in 6 months.

                                                                                                        But the big booth was nice
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                                                                                                          • Cory W
                                                                                                            Deeply shallow
                                                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                                                            • 9133
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                                                            Cory, good shit. When are you joining Playboy?

                                                                                                            I heard Eric works in his underwear. That alone is a selling point.
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                                                                                                              • GTS Mark
                                                                                                                Vrume Mark
                                                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                • 20912
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by bigdog
                                                                                                                are there any affilate reps making 100k or even 200k a year?
                                                                                                                Yep there are several

                                                                                                                DH

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                                                                                                                  • Jay
                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                    • 1131
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Great post Cory. It's sooo nice to read threads like this in the sea of useless threads that clutter GFY.
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                                                                                                                      • Dalai lama
                                                                                                                        Strength and Honor
                                                                                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                        • 16540
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        well said

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                                                                                                                          • Cory W
                                                                                                                            Deeply shallow
                                                                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                            • 9133
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            People get very confused. People who work for programs often times do their own things as well.

                                                                                                                            For example, I can write for magazines, send traffic to programs, and what not; all while still working here at Weg, where I get a nice salary and benefits.

                                                                                                                            It all adds up. I am by no means a millionare, but I do pretty well and hope to do better. I learn something new and usefull daily.
                                                                                                                            Last edited by Cory W; 10-14-2005, 08:12 AM.
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                                                                                                                              • Cory W
                                                                                                                                Deeply shallow
                                                                                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                • 9133
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by emmanuelle
                                                                                                                                I always get a chuckle out of people who decide in October, "Well if I want to go to internext, I'd better find a company to rep soon." I'm not gonna name names, but they're regulars, and hop from company to company.

                                                                                                                                I wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole- to me they are greedy opportunists, not anyone to be taken seriously as an employee.

                                                                                                                                Can somebody explain to me what "solid industry experience" means? I recently saw an announcement about a new hire who was credited with this. Being a bimbo on boards is not 'solid industry experience' in my opinion, but hey, maybe somebody else thinks so...
                                                                                                                                In addition, if I wanted to go to Vegas, I would rather do it with friends, rather than Industry. Shows are stressful.
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                                                                                                                                  • Theo
                                                                                                                                    HAL 9000
                                                                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                                                                    • 34515
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    "Do not believe that you are not qualified because you haven?t been around as long as others. People who constantly reference how long they have been around have likely been passed by. This Industry is an eCommerce Industry before it is a porn industry, it changes constantly, if you are willing to learn, you will be just fine."

                                                                                                                                    big truth

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                                                                                                                                      • CherryLipsRosa
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                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                        • 3603
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        A thread that actually had some wisdom in it ! cheers.
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                                                                                                                                          • llporter
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                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                            • 3221
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Thanks Cory - A great post with some good points and advice.

                                                                                                                                            A true rarity on GFY.

                                                                                                                                            Now how about helping me to convert your join4free sites!

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                                                                                                                                              • K R I S T E N
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                                                                                                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                • 2438
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Cory...why cant everyone be like you? You hit the nail on the head yet once again with this post..cant wait to present with you in November !!!!!!
                                                                                                                                                K R I S T E N
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                                                                                                                                                  • bigdog
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                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                    • 6964
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by DrinkingHARDER
                                                                                                                                                    Yep there are several

                                                                                                                                                    DH
                                                                                                                                                    At least that is some decent money. 30k a year would be a joke, you can do that making galleries

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                                                                                                                                                      • myjah
                                                                                                                                                        Back in the harbor
                                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                                        • 11482
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        I agree with everyone else. Great tips and a refreshing "related to business" thread!
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                                                                                                                                                          • Tam
                                                                                                                                                            Rude Bitch
                                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                            • 8534
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by WEG Cory
                                                                                                                                                            Nice reply, there are always exceptions. I am more targeting the blahxdollars-cash.com programs that pop up daily, offer an affiliate rep the stars and moon (namely a trip to Vegas) and then go under in 6 months.

                                                                                                                                                            But the big booth was nice

                                                                                                                                                            Ok, I didn't catch that it was pointing towards certain programs, but makes sense for anyone who comes out like they are all flash only to go under when they can't back it up. Too many times people try and be something they aren't, or say they are something they aren't and they crash and burn fast. LOL
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