Program owners? Buying affiliates from google searches? You gotta read this

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  • seeric
    ..........
    • Aug 2004
    • 41917

    #1

    Program owners? Buying affiliates from google searches? You gotta read this

    Just had an oddball ICQ convo with this guy who says he knows me, which I have no knowledge of trying to sell me affiliates from adwords on google for 175 bucks a pop, flat fee, and is not interested in them meeting a qualifier. would you buy affiliates from a search engine search for adult webmaster or adult affiliate program? talk about noob city.

    check it out. name is xxxxxx to protect his identity.

    no offense to this guy, but he must have thought i was not too bright to do something like this.

    [14:02] XXXXXXXXX: is this airek ?
    [14:03] a1r3k: yeah who is this
    [14:03] XXXXXXXXX: XXX
    [14:03] XXXXXXXXX: do you buy affiliates ?
    [14:03] a1r3k: what do you mean?
    [14:04] XXXXXXXXX: do you offer affiliate webmaster refferrals
    [14:04] a1r3k: if they make sales i will pay out the referring webmaster 5% of what they make.
    [14:04] a1r3k: are you an affiliate of ours now?
    [14:04] XXXXXXXXX: i see..
    [14:05] XXXXXXXXX: we require a flat fee.. can you do anything with us..?
    [14:05] a1r3k: we have a 200$ flat payout if the affil referred qualifies themselves by making 10 sales.
    [14:06] XXXXXXXXX: how about $175 , flat, no terms
    [14:06] a1r3k: we watch it very close and stuff because the opportunity to cheat is high.
    [14:06] a1r3k: they would ahve to meet a qualifier.
    [14:06] XXXXXXXXX: let's chat
    [14:06] a1r3k: otherwise people can sign up 100 people and 99 of them dont make one sale i lose money
    [14:06] XXXXXXXXX: i've spoke with you over at sexsearch maybe..??
    [14:06] XXXXXXXXX: video
    [14:07] a1r3k: hmmn. i am not sure. have we met somewhere else mayber
    [14:07] XXXXXXXXX: what your video site
    [14:07] a1r3k: www.ragecash.com is my program
    [14:07] a1r3k: i used to be with videopass
    [14:07] XXXXXXXXX: thats it
    [14:07] XXXXXXXXX: video pass
    [14:07] a1r3k: but that was a nightmare that i am glad ended
    [14:08] XXXXXXXXX: lol
    [14:08] XXXXXXXXX: lets talk , youhave a min
    [14:08] a1r3k: not right at this moment i don't i am on a major deadline to finish my new sites.
    [14:08] XXXXXXXXX: lol
    [14:08] XXXXXXXXX: good luck with that
    [14:09] XXXXXXXXX: we are going to fill our program up by friday
    [14:09] a1r3k: tons of work. good for the protfolio thugh
    [14:09] XXXXXXXXX: you should make some time if you need some good affiliates..
    [14:10] XXXXXXXXX: I own XXXXXXXXXs.com and XXXXX.com, let me know if you have the time, we also require the sponsors who we have selected
    to meet our terms..
    [14:10] a1r3k: well, i can't pay for affils that i can't qualify. thats basically my issue.
    [14:10] XXXXXXXXX: sure you can
    [14:11] XXXXXXXXX: how much
    [14:11] XXXXXXXXX: we require a flat fee.. I could show you what kind of traffic i'm talking
    [14:12] a1r3k: not to duobt you if its that much traffic, then why wouldn't you agree to our qualifier for the affil? just curious.
    [14:12] XXXXXXXXX: search Yahoo.com or google.com, see XXXXXXXXXs.com top 1,2,3. "adult webmaster" or choose any related keyword :adult affiliate"
    [14:13] XXXXXXXXX: we are going to broker adult webmaster/affiliate JOINS.
    [14:13] a1r3k: so, you guys want 175 bucks an affil that signs up through a search engine? trying to clarify this.
    [14:14] XXXXXXXXX: we will only take upto 10 sponsor programs, I'm not going to saturate them
    [14:15] a1r3k: so you want to send us affils from search engines where they are serching for "affiliate programs" etc?
    [14:15] XXXXXXXXX: advertising will be with overture.com, google adwords, miva, sex.com, netpond, xbiz.com, other good affiliate traffic

    sites, not gfy.com affiliates..
    [14:16] XXXXXXXXX: targeted keywords for "adult webmaster" "adult Affiliate program" etc.. very targeted, banners on webmaster resource

    sites. like netpond.com.. etc..
    [14:17] a1r3k: i would never pay 175 flat for an affil that you don't know that just searched for affiliate programs and signed up through an

    engine. thats noob city. none of those people have traffic. no offense. who is doing this so far?
    [14:17] XXXXXXXXX: XXXXXXXXXs, XXXXX
    [14:18] XXXXXXXXX: we do good with it and we (everyone) cross sales members JOINS
    [14:18] XXXXXXXXX: why not affiliate JOINS
    [14:20] a1r3k: yeah, we are gonna pass on that. maybe in the future there are other opportunities.
    [14:20] XXXXXXXXX: Q?
    [14:20] XXXXXXXXX: what would it be worth to you?
    [14:21] a1r3k: i wouldn't pay anything until they meet a qualifier
    [14:23] XXXXXXXXX: it seems you have been burned to much
    [14:23] XXXXXXXXX: lol <-- with your fraud
    [14:23] a1r3k: no. that is not true
    [14:24] a1r3k: i should pay you 175 dollars for each noob webmaster that signs up through a search engine query?
    [14:24] XXXXXXXXX: what happened before videopass, you got burned, i mean who has not seen some fraud..
    [14:25] a1r3k: go post on gfy and ask who would pay 175 dollars per newbie wm signup coming through a search engine search for webmaster

    programs or affiliate program search. with no qualifier.
    [14:25] a1r3k: i didn't get burned with videopass.
    [14:25] XXXXXXXXX: i payout to overture and google pay per click, some over 2-3.00 ppc.. to bid number 1 - coop advertising or cross.. we are

    cross saleing
    [14:26] XXXXXXXXX: not sure about videopass.. but before you took me you got burn before video
    [14:26] a1r3k: i fell like you are doubting my intelligence
    [14:26] a1r3k: what are you talking about?
    [14:26] a1r3k: lol
    [14:26] a1r3k: i am lost now.
    [14:26] XXXXXXXXX: I started a post on gfy you psoted to it..lol
    [14:27] a1r3k: yeah i saw. i said i was going to keep my mouth shut.
    [14:27] XXXXXXXXX: hurtfull
    [14:27] XXXXXXXXX: thanks for all your help ;-)
    [14:27] a1r3k: basically because i was meaning that if anyone would pay for a webmaster without knowing what they are getting, its a bad idea.
    [14:27] a1r3k: k, good luck with your search.
    [14:28] XXXXXXXXX: then beta test it.. it might be the best idea if you have never done it.
    Last edited by seeric; 10-11-2005, 10:51 AM.
  • StudioCash Luke
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2004
    • 446

    #2
    Thanks for protecting my name bud!

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    • Dalai lama
      Strength and Honor
      • Jul 2004
      • 16540

      #3
      I wouldn't be surprised if it was you Luke ;) Anyway. That guys offer is crap.

      A program you can trust.
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      • seeric
        ..........
        • Aug 2004
        • 41917

        #4
        it wasn't luke. i don't want to out the guy, but i am kinda irked that he wasted so much of my time trying to shove a BS deal down my throat. thats why i posted it, so others can benefit from my loss. i ain't mad at him, but i can't believe he thought i would go for that.

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        • Rui
          web
          • Dec 2001
          • 9533

          #5
          what a fucking joke....shit...

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          • RRRED
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2001
            • 6754

            #6
            Yeah I refused to listen to the same speel for longer than 5 min

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            • seeric
              ..........
              • Aug 2004
              • 41917

              #7
              Originally posted by RRRED
              Yeah I refused to listen to the same speel for longer than 5 min
              i've been told i am too nice.

              i lost interest when my intelligence was challenged.

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              • Manowar
                jellyfish  
                • Dec 2003
                • 71528

                #8
                I'll do it for $150, because it's a BARGAIN

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                • seeric
                  ..........
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 41917

                  #9
                  seriously. think about it. paying 175 dollars to someone for a noobie webmaster from google and they don't want the noobie to have to qualify with X amount of sales before they get the $. hmmn lets see. i have 90 people in my family, each sign up once to different addresses, blah blah blah, affiliate program X now owes so and so 15,750 dollars for referring 90 people who don't do shit for affiliate program X.

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                  • Rui
                    web
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 9533

                    #10
                    Originally posted by A1R3K
                    seriously. think about it. paying 175 dollars to someone for a noobie webmaster from google and they don't want the noobie to have to qualify with X amount of sales before they get the $. hmmn lets see. i have 90 people in my family, each sign up once to different addresses, blah blah blah, affiliate program X now owes so and so 15,750 dollars for referring 90 people who don't do shit for affiliate program X.

                    shit...after this post I imagine the sort of similar offers that will come up...why did you have to post that man...

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                    • sextoyking
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 6034

                      #11
                      $175.00 per wm signup - please..... Does he think program owners were born yesterday. no qualify / no conversions = no dinero...
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                      • seeric
                        ..........
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 41917

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rui
                        shit...after this post I imagine the sort of similar offers that will come up...why did you have to post that man...
                        well, the good part is that hopefully no one will fall for it. you know that no one will fall for it. definitely noone at niched sites, adult.com or rage will anyhow. . rrred and i had a laugh over it. even the proposal was laughable to anyone thats been in the business for any amount of time.

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                        • detoxed
                          vip member
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 17798

                          #13
                          WHAT??? you spent that much time talking to him? Tell him to fuck off.. if he has such a great idea he'll send you the fucking clicks and if it converts negotiate a fucking deal. Not blindly expect $175 per webmaster, Hey I have 20 russian friends

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                          • seeric
                            ..........
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 41917

                            #14
                            Originally posted by detoxed
                            WHAT??? you spent that much time talking to him? Tell him to fuck off.. if he has such a great idea he'll send you the fucking clicks and if it converts negotiate a fucking deal. Not blindly expect $175 per webmaster, Hey I have 20 russian friends
                            i try not to be an ass to people, basically. thats all.

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                            • BradM
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 3397

                              #15
                              This is how mainstream worked for years. CPA with no qualifiers. That's why so many companies went belly up so fast.

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                              • Nicky
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 30071

                                #16
                                LOL, what an idiot

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                                • Rui
                                  web
                                  • Dec 2001
                                  • 9533

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by A1R3K
                                  well, the good part is that hopefully no one will fall for it. you know that no one will fall for it. definitely noone at niched sites, adult.com or rage will anyhow. . rrred and i had a laugh over it. even the proposal was laughable to anyone thats been in the business for any amount of time.
                                  If anybody buys into this shit they need their brain check, i was just talking about the morons that THINK we may fall into this

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                                  • Theo
                                    HAL 9000
                                    • May 2001
                                    • 34515

                                    #18
                                    he mails me often trying to sell me signups, affiliates etc

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                                    • seeric
                                      ..........
                                      • Aug 2004
                                      • 41917

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Rui
                                      If anybody buys into this shit they need their brain check, i was just talking about the morons that THINK we may fall into this
                                      lol. ok, gotcha.

                                      i can imagine the new nicks and new "awesome opprotunity" for you and your prgram threads. lol

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                                      • Rui
                                        web
                                        • Dec 2001
                                        • 9533

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by A1R3K
                                        lol. ok, gotcha.

                                        i can imagine the new nicks and new "awesome opprotunity" for you and your prgram threads. lol
                                        Basicly you are to blame for the next flood of stupid "business opportunitys"

                                        Soul_Rebel - looks like he has all the bases convered

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                                        • BlingDaddy
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                                          • Apr 2004
                                          • 6343

                                          #21
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                                          • Honez
                                            Confirmed Brat
                                            • Apr 2003
                                            • 6636

                                            #22
                                            The same doofus contacted me. I gave him about 2 minutes of my time. He wanted me to pay him $150 per referral with no sales. I told him we pay $250 per referral with 5 sales and if the referrals he sends can't even make 5 sales, we don't want them.
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                                            • GTS Mark
                                              Vrume Mark
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 20912

                                              #23
                                              Man just from his icq conversation he sounds very unprofessional, I would'nt trust him as far as I could throw him.

                                              DH

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                                              • chupachups
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2002
                                                • 6576

                                                #24
                                                Who´s this nut?

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                                                • d00t
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                  • 3766

                                                  #25
                                                  tell me this..... what (serious) adult webmaster searches google/yahoo etc looking for sponsor programs?

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                                                  • Tat2Jr
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                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                    • 4882

                                                    #26
                                                    If he included a few rocks of crack I could smoke before he asked, I might think about it!
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                                                    • seeric
                                                      ..........
                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                      • 41917

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by d00t
                                                      tell me this..... what (serious) adult webmaster searches google/yahoo etc looking for sponsor programs?
                                                      hang on, i'll be back. gonna go search in google for serious adult webmaster

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                                                      • phonesex
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Mar 2005
                                                        • 3437

                                                        #28
                                                        some people are crazy

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                                                        • llporter
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                                                          • Jul 2005
                                                          • 3221

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by phonesex
                                                          some people are crazy
                                                          I agree with him

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                                                          • pornguy
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                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 62910

                                                            #30
                                                            Amazing the things that people will tryy to pull off.
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