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  • stickyfingerz
    Doin fine
    • Oct 2005
    • 24984
    #1

    Enough with the bashing. Make it clear how you feel.

    Ive about had it with the America bashing this week. Lets lay it out. Make it clear. Do you hate us? Do you hate our government? Do you hate our morals? Do you hate everything about us?

    This is a public poll. If you dont vote and continue to make stupid fucking threads about things that go on in our country, you will show yourself as a coward.

    In fact post exactly what you feel about us in this thread. Bring it out in the open. Ive just about had it this week.

    And come in and whine about "its not a fair question" or "bullshit poll" Say how you fucking feel.
    72
    Yes I hate them and everything about them.
    0%
    11
    I hate their goverment or leaders.
    0%
    33
    I hate that they have freedoms we dont.
    0%
    2
    I feel inadequate about my own country so I feel better when they have problems.
    0%
    5
    Other. If you vote this post an explanation.
    0%
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    • BlackCrayon
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jun 2003
      • 19634
      #2
      Americans are often trying to impose their point of view on others. Why can't you handle it when its the other way around? I agree that some of what is being said is stupid, "bashing" or whatever but as the "superpower" you are you have to be able to take some critisim. That said i love most everything about america and americans.
      you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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        • nico-t
          emperor of my world
          • Aug 2004
          • 29903
          #3
          dumb ass poll.

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            • stickyfingerz
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              • Oct 2005
              • 24984
              #4
              Originally posted by nico-t
              dumb ass poll.
              And Im sure what you voted too... lol

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                • notabook
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                  • Apr 2006
                  • 9748
                  #5
                  As an American, I must say I love about 90% of this country Also Steve, do you know what I did with my socks?

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                    • Elli
                      Reach for those stars!
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 17991
                      #6
                      I don't hate America. I love many of its people and ideals and places. I think it is being led by a very bad government which has been allowed to continue for far too long, and I think its people are lulled into apathy by being told that they wouldn't be able to make a difference, anyway. I think that blind patriotism for any country is misguided, since no country is perfect. I think that most Americans are highly uneducated about their own country and the world around them.

                      That doesn't mean I hate America, though.
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                        • Jakke PNG
                          ex-TeenGodFather
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 20306
                          #7
                          Voted other.
                          I hate the arrogance and ignorance of the general population in the usa, the total lack of will to understand any other way of thinking than their own. It's like "Those dirty middle-eastern heathens have to believe what we believe, because they are a threat to our beliefs".. not thinking that you're doing the exact same thing to them, you're a threat to their beliefs. Not for a second does the general turdling think of the situation like this, but automatically assumes that your way is the correct way and doesn't see anything wrong with it. 0 will to see the flipside of the coin, that's what's bugging me about usa, and the americans on this board.

                          I personally think the middle-east is a place due to some renovation, but it's none of my fucking business to tell them how they should live, why is it yours. Howcome it's your duty to 'liberate' them and bring 'democracy' there..if the people don't want it?

                          USA probably has more great minds than any other country, but it also seems to host a massive quantity of loud and obnoxious total retards, people who have the IQ of a chimpanzee and yet take pride for all the great things america has done, even though he contributes nothing himself... some of those even post on this very board.

                          I know there's gonna be some flaming towards me, but no matter. Wave the american flag and attack the annoying terrorist from finland.
                          ..and I'm off.

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                            • v4 media
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                              • Feb 2005
                              • 2934
                              #8
                              Because you haven't had modern warfare on your soil, you rush in to battle too quickly.

                              As a country you seem to want to do the right thing and want everyone to like you, but you go about things in a not so sensitive way.

                              As 90% of your population has never been abroad (Tijuana, Niagra falls dont count) you have a real fucked up view of the world, you think Europe is still in the 19 centuty.

                              Your double standards on terrorism piss me off aswell.

                              But on the whole I like you.. hehe.

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                                • Klen
                                  • Aug 2006
                                  • 32235
                                  #9
                                  There is no sense to hate USA beacuse even it's now leaded by very stupid president USA is still leader of globaly economy and make economy it so good level.But no long soon China will eated USA.

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                                    • RyuLion
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                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 32370
                                      #10
                                      Don't get me wrong..I'm proud to be an American and lucky at that..
                                      I Voted.

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                                        • D
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                                          • Jan 2006
                                          • 7412
                                          #11
                                          I love the foundation that the U.S. was built on.

                                          I think, more recently - as we grow, we're getting perhaps a bit careless about where and how hard we're letting those with the joystick swing the wrecking ball.
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                                            • stickyfingerz
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                                              • Oct 2005
                                              • 24984
                                              #12
                                              Im pissored I forgot to check the public poll option..

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                                                • Mediachick
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                                                  #13
                                                  I dont hate American people. I do hate their governement. I think jerks are equally spreaded world wide.
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                                                    • BVF
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                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                      • 13975
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by TeenGodFather
                                                      Voted other.
                                                      I hate the arrogance and ignorance of the general population in the usa, the total lack of will to understand any other way of thinking than their own. It's like "Those dirty middle-eastern heathens have to believe what we believe, because they are a threat to our beliefs".. not thinking that you're doing the exact same thing to them, you're a threat to their beliefs. Not for a second does the general turdling think of the situation like this, but automatically assumes that your way is the correct way and doesn't see anything wrong with it. 0 will to see the flipside of the coin, that's what's bugging me about usa, and the americans on this board.
                                                      I highly doubt if the general population of any middle eastern country gives two shits about america either unless it has something to do with television, movies, music, or MONEY...Other than that, why should they care? Why should ANY country in general care about the welfare of people in other countries that they've never been to?

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                                                        • Ssv
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                                                          • Nov 2006
                                                          • 402
                                                          #15
                                                          hate is such a strong word.No, I don't hate anyone

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                                                            • stickyfingerz
                                                              Doin fine
                                                              • Oct 2005
                                                              • 24984
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Ssv
                                                              hate is such a strong word.No, I don't hate anyone
                                                              Some on here do, and its apparent. Bile in vitriol in their words..

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                                                                • mattz
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                  • 7697
                                                                  #17
                                                                  I'm a US citizen, I don't like the government and or leaders

                                                                  even though Bush is one of the best presidents this country has ever had

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                                                                    • JaneB
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                                      There is no sense to hate USA beacuse even it's now leaded by very stupid president USA is still leader of globaly economy and make economy it so good level.But no long soon China will eated USA.
                                                                      How is China going to "eated" the US? No why in hell would they even think to try something with us.

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                                                                        • JaneB
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by TeenGodFather
                                                                          Voted other.
                                                                          I hate the arrogance and ignorance of the general population in the usa, the total lack of will to understand any other way of thinking than their own. It's like "Those dirty middle-eastern heathens have to believe what we believe, because they are a threat to our beliefs".. not thinking that you're doing the exact same thing to them, you're a threat to their beliefs. Not for a second does the general turdling think of the situation like this, but automatically assumes that your way is the correct way and doesn't see anything wrong with it. 0 will to see the flipside of the coin, that's what's bugging me about usa, and the americans on this board.

                                                                          I personally think the middle-east is a place due to some renovation, but it's none of my fucking business to tell them how they should live, why is it yours. Howcome it's your duty to 'liberate' them and bring 'democracy' there..if the people don't want it?

                                                                          USA probably has more great minds than any other country, but it also seems to host a massive quantity of loud and obnoxious total retards, people who have the IQ of a chimpanzee and yet take pride for all the great things america has done, even though he contributes nothing himself... some of those even post on this very board.

                                                                          I know there's gonna be some flaming towards me, but no matter. Wave the american flag and attack the annoying terrorist from finland.


                                                                          I am guessing because the terrorists come over here and blow things up. When that happens that makes it the business of the US. Had they stayed over there and left us alone, we would not care what they were doing.

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                                                                            • jayeff
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                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                              • 2944
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Stupid thread, but okay. I love the US. I have done ever since I spent several semesters at school here on exchange programs. I have visited and worked here for short periods throughout my adult life. I have lived here for the past 10 years.

                                                                              I'm also a realist. Might is right. But that doesn't prevent me wishing that the US had trod more lightly around the world. Over the past 3/4 century millions have been killed, injured or otherwise had their lives destroyed as a direct or indirect result of US foreign policy. I have to believe that the majority of Americans are not aware of all the interference which has gone on in other countries' affairs, because I do not want to believe they would approve of much that has been done.

                                                                              I think the US has a huge problem. Election-by-sound-bite has been going on here for several decades. Most of the media have gone the same route with news and information, to the point that the majority of the US public is so dumbed down about what is happening at home and abroad, I doubt it is even possible to hold their attention long enough now to attempt to explain anything in more detail. That is why there hasn't been a truly impressive president, let alone congress or senate, in probably 50 years.

                                                                              Which I believe is why Americans seem so pig-headed and reactionary to many outsiders. They are fiercely proud and patriotic, but if they could scratch the surface they would have to start wondering how things ever went so wrong.

                                                                              There is a mexican restaurant I eat at fairly regularly. There are SEVEN different licenses on the wall behind the cash register, yet Americans are sure they have, if not small, then at least not big government. I visit hospitals and doctors regularly, and although I'm paying, I'm likely to have to wait longer than in the UK I would have to as a National Health patient. Right until graduation as straight-A students, my kids used to come home from school at 3:30, most days if they had homework at all, having been able to do it during school hours. Etc.

                                                                              The US has the potential to be the greatest country in the world, but until Americans start to care about it in practical terms as much as they do in theory, it is going to drift further and further away from that ideal.

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                                                                                • scottybuzz
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • May 2006
                                                                                  • 14799
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  haha i hate the people in america who make such biased poll options. i mean come on, i dont loath america, i hate some of the narrow thinking that some americans have. how they wont even try to see views of other nations, but i love the american way of life. when i was there everyone was so friendly, the layout of the country was amazing and the way of life was also brilliant. the things they have brought to the world is great.

                                                                                  but i feel a few people are a little bit too patriotic in their thinking and that patritism expands to bashing other countries, for example "I hate that they have freedoms we dont."

                                                                                  hahaha i mean come on, we are not all islamic extremists. and that option was not just posed at islamic extremists who want to be controlled by one man.
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                                                                                    • Jace
                                                                                      FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                      • 35562
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      I live here and I hate the leaders and government right now, it sucks

                                                                                      shit, even my dad who was a hardcore republican has changed his views..my sister had a baby 5 months ago and it is AMAZING how much seeing a baby that is your blood right in front of you

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                                                                                        • _Richard_
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Oct 2006
                                                                                          • 30991
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          other..

                                                                                          i hate the fear that runs everyones daily lives

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                                                                                            • stickyfingerz
                                                                                              Doin fine
                                                                                              • Oct 2005
                                                                                              • 24984
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Jace
                                                                                              I live here and I hate the leaders and government right now, it sucks

                                                                                              shit, even my dad who was a hardcore republican has changed his views..my sister had a baby 5 months ago and it is AMAZING how much seeing a baby that is your blood right in front of you
                                                                                              This issue though only has a small portion to do with politics. I could care less really if they hate Bush etc. How many posts have you read this week using the words "redneck" or "Imbecile" ? At this point they are calling our country, and its people stupid.

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                                                                                                • Splum
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                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                  • 6195
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Lots of anti-Americans on GFY.

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                                                                                                    • Cho Seung-Hui
                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                      • Apr 2007
                                                                                                      • 26
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      I feel lonely.

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                                                                                                        • Porn Farmer
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                                                                                                          • Feb 2007
                                                                                                          • 928
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                                          Im pissored I forgot to check the public poll option..
                                                                                                          If you're going to do another poll be sure to add this option:

                                                                                                          "I'm tired of American arrogance and ignorance."

                                                                                                          You may find it gets a few votes.

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                                                                                                            • LiveDose
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                                                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                                                              • 25792
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Every country has problems. Love where you live and be done with it. Otherwise hit the road and move.

                                                                                                              As people from other countries could care less about my opinion, I could give two shits about what some foreigner says about the US.

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                                                                                                                • Porn Farmer
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                                                                                                                  • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                  • 928
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by JaneB
                                                                                                                  I am guessing because the terrorists come over here and blow things up. When that happens that makes it the business of the US. Had they stayed over there and left us alone, we would not care what they were doing.
                                                                                                                  You think you did nothing to provoke them?

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                                                                                                                    • stickyfingerz
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                                                                                                                      • 24984
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Porn Farmer
                                                                                                                      You think you did nothing to provoke them?
                                                                                                                      I know you are new to the board... but are you also new to life?

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                                                                                                                        • Porn Farmer
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                                                                                                                          • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                          • 928
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                          I know you are new to the board... but are you also new to life?
                                                                                                                          It was a serious question.

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                                                                                                                            • JaneB
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Porn Farmer
                                                                                                                              You think you did nothing to provoke them?
                                                                                                                              No we did not provoke them. No one in the twin towers did a damn thing to provoke them. They are terrorists, they do not need to be provoked.

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                                                                                                                                • EZRhino
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                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 6258
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Stupid post, typical responses are sure to come up.

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                                                                                                                                    • Porn Farmer
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                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                                      • 928
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by JaneB
                                                                                                                                      No we did not provoke them. No one in the twin towers did a damn thing to provoke them. They are terrorists, they do not need to be provoked.
                                                                                                                                      Well this is what Osama bin Laden had to say about that:

                                                                                                                                      I wonder about you. Although we are ushering the fourth year after 9/11, Bush is still exercising confusion and misleading you and not telling you the true reason. Therefore, the motivations are still there for what happened to be repeated.

                                                                                                                                      And I will talk to you about the reason for those events, and I will be honest with you about the moments the decision was made so that you can ponder. And I tell you, God only knows, that we never had the intentions to destroy the towers.

                                                                                                                                      But after the injustice was so much and we saw transgressions and the coalition between Americans and the Israelis against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it occurred to my mind that we deal with the towers. And these special events that directly and personally affected me go back to 1982 and what happened when America gave permission for Israel to invade Lebanon. And assistance was given by the American sixth fleet.

                                                                                                                                      During those crucial moments, my mind was thinking about many things that are hard to describe. But they produced a feeling to refuse and reject injustice, and I had determination to punish the transgressors.

                                                                                                                                      And as I was looking at those towers that were destroyed in Lebanon, it occurred to me that we have to punish the transgressor with the same -- and that we had to destroy the towers in America so that they taste what we tasted, and they stop killing our women and children.

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                                                                                                                                        • MaDalton
                                                                                                                                          I am Amazing Content!
                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 39861
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                                                                                                                          haha i hate the people in america who make such biased poll options. i mean come on, i dont loath america, i hate some of the narrow thinking that some americans have. how they wont even try to see views of other nations, but i love the american way of life. when i was there everyone was so friendly, the layout of the country was amazing and the way of life was also brilliant. the things they have brought to the world is great.

                                                                                                                                          but i feel a few people are a little bit too patriotic in their thinking and that patritism expands to bashing other countries, for example "I hate that they have freedoms we dont."

                                                                                                                                          hahaha i mean come on, we are not all islamic extremists. and that option was not just posed at islamic extremists who want to be controlled by one man.
                                                                                                                                          i think this is your first post that makes halfway sense
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                                                                                                                                            • KustomKowgurl
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Haha...I choose none...or other I guess if I have to. I'm a fan of America We have our faults, but everyone does. We know we have them, and we have to deal with them on a daily basis. But I'd rather deal with our own problems than go anywhere else.



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                                                                                                                                                • stickyfingerz
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Porn Farmer
                                                                                                                                                  It was a serious question.

                                                                                                                                                  You are a terrorist sympathizer huh?

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                                                                                                                                                    • Porn Farmer
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                                                      You are a terrorist sympathizer huh?
                                                                                                                                                      No, I'm just saying nothing happens for no reason.

                                                                                                                                                      If you don't want to be a victim of terrorist attacks, don't create them and don't provoke them.

                                                                                                                                                      Do you really think that they attacked you for no reason?

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                                                                                                                                                        • MaDalton
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                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2004
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          I hate that they have freedoms we dont.
                                                                                                                                                          btw - someone still needs to explain me what "freedoms" those are - besides the fact that a proven nutjob can buy guns and ammunition without any problems

                                                                                                                                                          ah - i remember something else: your "freedom of speech" allows you to deny holocaust and use nazi symbols without prosecution - ok, debatable if that is needed or not

                                                                                                                                                          but now someone really come up with a "freedoms" i don't have - please...


                                                                                                                                                          and btw - nooo, i don't hate the US (this will be soon a standard disclaimer since a lot of people seem to be really sensitive about that - i wonder how i as a german should feel about the constant bashing i witnessed over the last couple of years on this board).
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                                                                                                                                                            • stickyfingerz
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Porn Farmer
                                                                                                                                                              No, I'm just saying nothing happens for no reason.

                                                                                                                                                              If you don't want to be a victim of terrorist attacks, don't create them and don't provoke them.

                                                                                                                                                              Do you really think that they attacked you for no reason?
                                                                                                                                                              So you say we should ... appease them then??

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                                                                                                                                                                • Porn Farmer
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                                                                  So you say we should ... appease them then??
                                                                                                                                                                  No, I'm saying don't give them a reason to attack you.

                                                                                                                                                                  That's not appeasment, that's avoidance.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • stickyfingerz
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                                                                                                      btw - someone still needs to explain me what "freedoms" those are - besides the fact that a proven nutjob can buy guns and ammunition without any problems

                                                                                                                                                                      ah - i remember something else: your "freedom of speech" allows you to deny holocaust and use nazi symbols without prosecution - ok, debatable if that is needed or not

                                                                                                                                                                      but now someone really come up with a "freedoms" i don't have - please...


                                                                                                                                                                      and btw - nooo, i don't hate the US (this will be soon a standard disclaimer since a lot of people seem to be really sensitive about that - i wonder how i as a german should feel about the constant bashing i witnessed over the last couple of years on this board).

                                                                                                                                                                      Ya funny how your country when led by your elected leader murdered millions that now the U.S. is seen in the same light if not worse huh? I have no problems with Germany btw. I dare anyone to find where Ive said anything negative about them. Im just making a point that America has somehow been turned into look like something worse than a country that led millions to their slaughter.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Splum
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Why even argue with these pieces of shit? They are all foreign trash, half of them live on $200 monthly income from a few galleries they promote, the other half are actually RUNNING FROM THE LAW in America so they have to move to other countries to get away.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • MaDalton
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                                                                              Ya funny how your country when led by your elected leader murdered millions that now the U.S. is seen in the same light if not worse huh? I have no problems with Germany btw. I dare anyone to find where Ive said anything negative about them. Im just making a point that America has somehow been turned into look like something worse than a country that led millions to their slaughter.
                                                                                                                                                                              yeah, sounds like you need a better marketing

                                                                                                                                                                              but once again - what freedoms do i miss here?
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                                                                                                                                                                                • sperbonzo
                                                                                                                                                                                  I'd rather be on my boat.
                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 9750
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Porn Farmer
                                                                                                                                                                                  No, I'm saying don't give them a reason to attack you.

                                                                                                                                                                                  That's not appeasment, that's avoidance.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Don't give them a reason???

                                                                                                                                                                                  It's funny that the muslim extremists and their apologists won't take any responsibility for SO MANY problems in the middle east that had nothing to do with America (or Isreal for that matter). For example....

                                                                                                                                                                                  * The Muslim enslavement of black Africans in Mauritania,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * The mass murder of hundreds of thousands of Arabs in a 13-year Algerian civil war,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * The endless brutal oppression of Egyptian Christian Copts in Egypt by Egyptian Muslims,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * The genocide of 2,000,000 black African Christians and animists in South Sudan by Sudanese Muslim Arabs over the past 23 years,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * The genocide of 800,000 black African Muslims in Western Sudan (aka Darfur) by Sudanese Muslim Arabs over the past 5 years,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * The blatant religious apartheid of the Saudi government in Arabia,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * The mass murder of Arabian Shi?ites by the Saudi royal family,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * The de facto maintenance of slavery as an economic institution in Arabia,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * Saddam Hussein?s murder of hundreds of thousands of his own Iraqi citizens during his 32 years of repressive tyrannical rule,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * The current Muslim-vs.-Muslim terrorist carnage in Iraq,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * The Taliban reign of terror in Afghanistan,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * The decades-old civil war between Islamofascists and non-Muslims in Nigeria,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * Syria?s brutal 27-year occupation of Lebanon,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * Six decades of Muslim terrorism against the Hindus of Kashmir and Gujarat,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * The Muslim repression of Hindus in Bangladesh,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * Islamic terrorism in East Asia (Bali, East Timor, Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia),
                                                                                                                                                                                  * Muslim terrorism against Russia (remember 186 dead children at the school in Beslan?)
                                                                                                                                                                                  * The brutal Islamic subjugation of women prevalent in many Muslim countries for the last millennium,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * The Muslim persecution of Christians and Jews throughout the Muslim world since the beginning of Islam,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * The fact that the ?religion of peace? spawned a thousand-year war against the non-Muslim world (aka Jihad) a thousand years before Israel came in to existence,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * The grinding poverty and lack of productivity that typify even the richest of Arab countries, as documented in three recent UN-sponsored studies,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * The fact that, while not all Muslims are terrorists, almost all terrorists, for the past 30 years, are Muslims,
                                                                                                                                                                                  * The fact that millions of Muslims every year flee their home states, Shari?a law, and Islamic sovereignty, to seek refuge, a better life, broader opportunities, freedom and a brighter future for their children . . . in Western states.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                                                                                      Doin fine
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 24984
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                                                                                                                      yeah, sounds like you need a better marketing

                                                                                                                                                                                      but once again - what freedoms do i miss here?

                                                                                                                                                                                      Ya its a utopia....

                                                                                                                                                                                      * Folksingers are threatened with imprisonment for singing peaceful songs;

                                                                                                                                                                                      * A professor who writes his disbelief about certain historical events in a footnote, written in Latin(!), in a scholarly anthology(!) was prosecuted and threatened with jail, and the anthology was confiscated and burned;

                                                                                                                                                                                      * A judge, writing a well-founded, but highly controversial book on historical topics, saw his book confiscated and burned, his pension cut, and his PhD title withdrawn as a result of this;

                                                                                                                                                                                      * A history teacher was sent to jail for uttering historical dissent in a private letter to a high-profile personality;

                                                                                                                                                                                      * A professor criticizing internationalism was kicked out of his job, harassed, prosecuted and driven into suicide;

                                                                                                                                                                                      * An historical dissenter was sent to prison for more than two years just because he published peaceful, scholarly historical material;

                                                                                                                                                                                      * Well-founded, heavily footnoted books on political and historical topics, authored by academics with plenty of credentials, were and are being confiscated and burned by court order;

                                                                                                                                                                                      * Authors, editors, publishers, printers, wholesalers, retailers, importers and exporters, warehouses, and customers buying more than two copies of a certain medium with peaceful, yet dissenting views on history or politics can be prosecuted for producing, stocking, importing/exporting, distributing such dissident material;

                                                                                                                                                                                      * The authorities hide from their citizens, which media are outlawed, so that one cannot possibly know whether or not one commits a crime when distributing such media;

                                                                                                                                                                                      * Judges are threatened with prosecution because they did not punish political and historical dissenters harshly enough;

                                                                                                                                                                                      * Defense lawyers are prosecuted if they try to introduce evidence showing that the dissenting historical views of their clients, for which they are prosecuted, are in fact correct;

                                                                                                                                                                                      * Internet providers are forced by law to censor the Internet by not forwarding dissenting political and historical material to their customers;

                                                                                                                                                                                      * The authorities are actually proud of conducting more than 10,000 crimi nal prosecutions every year(!) against persons for having committed peaceful "thought crimes", or more than 100,000 persecutions of peaceful dissenters in ten years!

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • High Plains Drifter
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 2341
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          It's been a republican strategy for as long as I can remember to attack those that disagree as anti-American.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Splum
                                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 6195
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by High Plains Drifter
                                                                                                                                                                                              It's been a republican strategy for as long as I can remember to attack those that disagree as anti-American.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Thats because you people ARE anti-American.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • MaDalton
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I am Amazing Content!
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 39861
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Ya its a utopia....

                                                                                                                                                                                                  * Folksingers are threatened with imprisonment for singing peaceful songs;

                                                                                                                                                                                                  * A professor who writes his disbelief about certain historical events in a footnote, written in Latin(!), in a scholarly anthology(!) was prosecuted and threatened with jail, and the anthology was confiscated and burned;

                                                                                                                                                                                                  * A judge, writing a well-founded, but highly controversial book on historical topics, saw his book confiscated and burned, his pension cut, and his PhD title withdrawn as a result of this;

                                                                                                                                                                                                  * A history teacher was sent to jail for uttering historical dissent in a private letter to a high-profile personality;

                                                                                                                                                                                                  * A professor criticizing internationalism was kicked out of his job, harassed, prosecuted and driven into suicide;

                                                                                                                                                                                                  * An historical dissenter was sent to prison for more than two years just because he published peaceful, scholarly historical material;

                                                                                                                                                                                                  * Well-founded, heavily footnoted books on political and historical topics, authored by academics with plenty of credentials, were and are being confiscated and burned by court order;

                                                                                                                                                                                                  * Authors, editors, publishers, printers, wholesalers, retailers, importers and exporters, warehouses, and customers buying more than two copies of a certain medium with peaceful, yet dissenting views on history or politics can be prosecuted for producing, stocking, importing/exporting, distributing such dissident material;

                                                                                                                                                                                                  * The authorities hide from their citizens, which media are outlawed, so that one cannot possibly know whether or not one commits a crime when distributing such media;

                                                                                                                                                                                                  * Judges are threatened with prosecution because they did not punish political and historical dissenters harshly enough;

                                                                                                                                                                                                  * Defense lawyers are prosecuted if they try to introduce evidence showing that the dissenting historical views of their clients, for which they are prosecuted, are in fact correct;

                                                                                                                                                                                                  * Internet providers are forced by law to censor the Internet by not forwarding dissenting political and historical material to their customers;

                                                                                                                                                                                                  * The authorities are actually proud of conducting more than 10,000 crimi nal prosecutions every year(!) against persons for having committed peaceful "thought crimes", or more than 100,000 persecutions of peaceful dissenters in ten years!
                                                                                                                                                                                                  lol - care to explain about what country you speak? we all know you heard about google, but at least post your sources along with that, otherwise you'll be dismissed from class
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Doin fine
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 24984
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by High Plains Drifter
                                                                                                                                                                                                      It's been a republican strategy for as long as I can remember to attack those that disagree as anti-American.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yup you caught them.... So people saying Americans are retards, and imbeciles just disagree huh? lmao

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