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New Idea! FULL Partnered TGP...Feedback PLS

10-09-2005, 07:28 PM

I'm thinking about making a "Full Partnered TGP".
By full partner I mean the gallery submitters will not only get their
gallery listed but also get banner spots on the TGP.

How much traffic went to a partners gallery and how many banner exposures they get would depend on how much effort they put into the partnership.

Partners would be rank on the following criteria:

* How many and quality of galleries they build for the TGP
* How many/quality traffic trades did they do for the TGP
* How many submissions they approve for the TGP
* etc...

I would make a script to show all stats for all partners and partners could log into their account and add or delete traffic trades, submit/approve galleries.

Why do this?
I think a TGP with 25 to 50 partners all making galleries and doing trades will
be a powerful TGP with a lot of traffic.

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Yes! Just have good stats.

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No. Rather work alone.

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10-09-2005, 07:30 PM

i wish you the best of luck in finding 25-50 non-cheaters in the TGP game who have the time and effort to contribute.

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10-09-2005, 07:33 PM

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10-09-2005, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by MrIzzz

i wish you the best of luck in finding 25-50 non-cheaters in the TGP game who have the time and effort to contribute.

I will handle the cheaters by deleting their accounts. They will have to provide good contact info before becoming a partner.
I will have a script to track every detail about who made a traffic trade who posted a gallery ...etc.

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10-09-2005, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by MrIzzz

i wish you the best of luck in finding 25-50 non-cheaters in the TGP game who have the time and effort to contribute.

that could probably be done, however splitting banner traffic 25-50 ways would make it essentially worthless even on a large site
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10-09-2005, 07:42 PM

MrIzzz,

I never had any problem getting webmasters to submit 20-30 galleries to be posted on my TGP and the only thing else they would do is actually sign up for traffic trades at other TGPs they post to. I dont see where there is all this time you think it will consume.

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10-09-2005, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by AmateurFlix

that could probably be done, however splitting banner traffic 25-50 ways would make it essentially worthless even on a large site

People are paying $600 a month to get a banner ROTATED on big tgp's.
There must be something there.

And it can also be permanent text links too and there could be a limit of how many partners per TGP. This is just a rough sketch of the idea.

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10-09-2005, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by AmateurFlix

that could probably be done, however splitting banner traffic 25-50 ways would make it essentially worthless even on a large site

Agreed. It would need to be a MASSIVE tgp to make any financial sense for the participants. Its easy enough to set up a solo TGP and keep 100% of the money, so why go through all the time and effort to just get a sliver?

I see your point and the idea is interesting however it would be totally dependant on scale to make anyone any amount of money.... at with 20-30 poeple that scale would need to be HUGE.
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10-09-2005, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by darnit

Agreed. It would need to be a MASSIVE tgp to make any financial sense for the participants. Its easy enough to set up a solo TGP and keep 100% of the money, so why go through all the time and effort to just get a sliver?

I see your point and the idea is interesting however it would be totally dependant on scale to make anyone any amount of money.... at with 20-30 poeple that scale would need to be HUGE.

I agree that setting up a crappy TGP and keeping 100% is easy enough; but I don't think 20 partners will build a crappy TGP. I think 20 partners will build a 250k TGP in two months time.

I would be glad to make 1/20th or 1/100th of what the hun is making from his banners.

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10-09-2005, 11:22 PM

Yeah will be so much in it for the owners then

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10-09-2005, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by Dalai lama

Yeah will be so much in it for the owners then

Have you ever paid the bandwidth on a 250k TGP?
That's the part that has me worried that I would be risking my ass to give up banner space.

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10-09-2005, 11:51 PM

have fun no one but a newbie will go for something like this and with a bunch of newbies you will get very far

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10-10-2005, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by sandman!

have fun no one but a newbie will go for something like this and with a bunch of newbies you will get very far

Sorry to say but this is true. Anyone who knows anything about TGPs can make fine money managing their own trades, ads, paid spots etc.

So perhaps you need to look at it from a diffrent angle and perhaps set up a "network" of tgps in which experienced "partners" give each other preferential treatment and use the bulk weight of their traffic to get good CPM deals on ad spots.

Basically you use the same model but allow each individual owner to participate in the "network" - Very similar to the leverage that the large buyers such as GTS, choker, etc and others do, however you make it a closed system and only those in the network reap the benifits of the traffic leverage.

This however is totally dependent on your "partners" knowing what the fuck they are doing. Otherwize it would be a useless endeavor with a ton of infighting if some are pulling much more weight than others... a headache in the making if you ask me.

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10-10-2005, 02:31 AM

Originally posted by darnit

Sorry to say but this is true. Anyone who knows anything about TGPs can make fine money managing their own trades, ads, paid spots etc.

So perhaps you need to look at it from a diffrent angle and perhaps set up a "network" of tgps in which experienced "partners" give each other preferential treatment and use the bulk weight of their traffic to get good CPM deals on ad spots.

Basically you use the same model but allow each individual owner to participate in the "network" - Very similar to the leverage that the large buyers such as GTS, choker, etc and others do, however you make it a closed system and only those in the network reap the benifits of the traffic leverage.

This however is totally dependent on your "partners" knowing what the fuck they are doing. Otherwize it would be a useless endeavor with a ton of infighting if some are pulling much more weight than others... a headache in the making if you ask me.

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10-10-2005, 11:24 AM

Hmmmmm, I could set this thing up so that when a partner makes a traffic trade his banner appears at the top spot for all traffic comming from that trade for the life of the trade.
I personally would love to be a partner to some big sites that would do that.
It's less work then submitting galleries and praying to get listed.
Free bandwidth if they serve the banner and gauranteed listing/posting of the banner.
I'd like to do a few trades for thumbzilla that push 10k a day at my banner for the next 5 years. I can get a bigger trade for thumbzilla than I can get for my own TGP for sure. If I could do this for 10 big TGPs then I'd get 100k a day to my banner!

I think the only possible loser is the TGP owner giving away too much banner space; but I think that can be handled by adding their own galleries and keeping the second to top banner plus the home page for type-in traffic.

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10-10-2005, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

Hmmmmm, I could set this thing up so that when a partner makes a traffic trade his banner appears at the top spot for all traffic comming from that trade for the life of the trade.
I personally would love to be a partner to some big sites that would do that.
It's less work then submitting galleries and praying to get listed.
Free bandwidth if they serve the banner and gauranteed listing/posting of the banner.
I'd like to do a few trades for thumbzilla that push 10k a day at my banner for the next 5 years. I can get a bigger trade for thumbzilla than I can get for my own TGP for sure. If I could do this for 10 big TGPs then I'd get 100k a day to my banner!

I think the only possible loser is the TGP owner giving away too much banner space; but I think that can be handled by adding their own galleries and keeping the second to top banner plus the home page for type-in traffic.

you dont seem to get it no one but newbies will do this.

anyone that is good at growing sites does not need to work with anyone else to do it or they will pick up 1 partner no one will want newbies to be adding trades to their sites and 99% of people have no clue about tgp's and traffic trading and will never get over thier 10k a day.

you will not find 1 person with any traffic interested in this just newbies.

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10-10-2005, 11:31 AM

the sacle that you are speaking of would be the size of the Hun or bigger.

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10-10-2005, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by pornguy

the sacle that you are speaking of would be the size of the Hun or bigger.

Well, the potential would be there but I would be arrogant to predict such a result.

I just see that there are plenty of webmasters with 5k TGP's making nothing and they will never have the traffic to trade with the "mega TGPs" and get 50k a day to their banner. But if 20 of these webmasters pool the traffic on one TGP then that TGP can trade with the mega TGPs and thus become a mega TGP itself.

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10-10-2005, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

Well, the potential would be there but I would be arrogant to predict such a result.

I just see that there are plenty of webmasters with 5k TGP's making nothing and they will never have the traffic to trade with the "mega TGPs" and get 50k a day to their banner. But if 20 of these webmasters pool the traffic on one TGP then that TGP can trade with the mega TGPs and thus become a mega TGP itself.

you really dont know much about tgp's do you ?

i predict the blind leading the blind

let me know if you start up this project would be fun to watch

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10-10-2005, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by sandman!

you really dont know much about tgp's do you ?

i predict the blind leading the blind

let me know if you start up this project would be fun to watch

Well, you provide no proof that you know more about TGPs than anybody else.

I do know that I am willing to trade banner space for webasters that can find traffic for my TGP and that's the idea. A webmaster that has found 50 good trades and using them already only needs to add these trades to my TGP and they double the benifit of finding these trades. Of course they could build another TGP and add those trades but that's more work for them to maintain and not nearly as easy as just adding them to my script.

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10-10-2005, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

Have you ever paid the bandwidth on a 250k TGP?
That's the part that has me worried that I would be risking my ass to give up banner space.

I was using sarcasm.

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10-10-2005, 01:04 PM

What the world needs is another TGP competing for traffic and conversions.
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10-10-2005, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

Well, you provide no proof that you know more about TGPs than anybody else.

I do know that I am willing to trade banner space for webasters that can find traffic for my TGP and that's the idea. A webmaster that has found 50 good trades and using them already only needs to add these trades to my TGP and they double the benifit of finding these trades. Of course they could build another TGP and add those trades but that's more work for them to maintain and not nearly as easy as just adding them to my script.

i dont need to post any proof i got nothing to gain or loose im just fucking around with you your idea will fail go ahead and try it does not hurt to try.

the problem with your idea is no one thats good at traffic trading will go for your idea because they can make 10x more $$$ on thier own.

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