Breaking News: Feds Raid Max Hardcore on Obscenity Allegations

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it's wonderfully ironic. paying to have my industry shut down.

The US doesn't control Canada and they never will. America does not have the power that CNN tells you it does. They will never influence Canada into being controlled by religious nuts, and Canada will never prosecute a pornographer because Bush says so. George Bush will never rule the world. He'll lose a world war before that happens. Canada is and always will be as close to a free country as there is, and it will always be a safe place for people who produce consensual adult entertainment.

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The Justice Department prosecutor in charge is Jennifer Leonardo.
Ok, post her e-mail in plain view on every godam webmaster and porn BBS. Everyone interested should flood her inbox with complaints and get some lobbying moving for freedom of speech. Hopefully FSC will be launching a campaign against this bitch.

I am a Republican, and proud of it.

However, many Republicans like myself feel that the religious right has hijacked our party, and we aren't happy about it.

Blah blah lie blah lie lie blah blah. The FSC warned people that non-members wouldn't be covered. You call that strong arming. Whatever. Turns out it was true, as a spammer was hit on a 2257 violation after the agreement. Spin it however you want KB, but the FSC did the right thing.

A straight lie. I responded to you directly... gave you an offer to call me. You never did. I wonder, do you keep a straight face when you type this stuff? Why do you just bullshit all the time?

Blah blah lie lie blah lie. YNOT has no relationship with Max Hardcore whatsoever. Do you know something I don't? If you have to make things up to make a point then you really should wonder if your point is worth making. As for Black, I respect his right to make whatever adult content he wants to make so long as it involves only consenting adults and no crime is committed to make it. I'm not a fan of his films. You apparently are for censorship. You apparently want to tell other people how to run their businesses. You apparently want to make moral decisions about other people's content. Not me. I prefer to run my own business and let other people run theirs.

I think there's a spot for you at church next Sunday... you'd fit in well there, you're such a good Christian with all this moral judging and finger-pointing you're doing. Black spoke at Cybernet because his legal battle is relevant to the entire industry, whether you see it or not.

You know a lot about tarnishing good names, don't you. You keep trying to tarnish other people's name when you should just concentrate on running your own business.

You seem to want to align yourself with the bible thumpers, the religious right and the pro-censorship crowd. If that works for you then fine...

As far as YNOT... we have no business or personal relationship with Max. We have no business relationship with Rob. As far as Rob goes on other levels, we've given him a means to voice his case, as have all kinds of organizations, including the mainstream media. I'm sorry you're upset that we haven't chosen to censor him instead. Can I call you Pastor KB from this point on? I think there's room for you over at Morality in Media. ;)

Look here Pastor... We're not the ones who spend all day long hanging out on other people's message boards trying to talk shit about other businesses in a desperate attempt to draw some attention to our name.

I know you will have some other lies to spit out, some other spin you think people here are foolish enough to believe... knock yourself out. I'm afraid I have to get back to business. I'll check back in a day to two to see what other amsing lies you've managed to think up... just be careful when you type, because there will be a public record.

Wonder who are next...

I think they should actualy target spammers, drug pushers,pharma and pedo's instead this...

I think their prioritys are all fucked up to be honest

KB, with all due respect. ( the amount is questionable) this organization that has " strong armed" people in to paying for " protection" did what was necessary to file an injunction on behalf of it's members. With you extensive experience with the legal system one would think you would have a basic understanding of how things were done and WHY. find another cause to be the squeeky wheel demanding the greese.

As far as "where is the protection?" is Max an FSC member/client?? I don't know, do you? Not to mention this isn't exactly 7day old news, let things come to order because again YOU OF ALL PEOPLE are reading something printed by the media and taking it at face value?? for shame.

As far as your offer to help out with your Press Contacts, maybe they chose not to take that route for a reason. Again most prudent webmasters know the reason, it's a shame you don't see it.


And as for the rest of you wishing ill will towards Max Hardcore you should be ashamed of yourself and leave the industry.

Do I like what Max hardcore does?? NO, but I respect his right to do it, the man may have bad taste and even worse mannors, but is he breaking the law?
A fairly vague law that is real fucking easy for those of us who DON'T produce content to comment on based on OUR personal feelings or beliefs.


Next thing you know they don't care for the example Teen Hitchhikers presents, " It's encouraging young males to take advantage of females who may be stranded, poor, and in need of a ride " Anything we do can be spun into pure evil. And Porn is Porn in the eyes of this administration. Max is just an easy target. A target that the general population would most likely NEVER back in public.

The fact that anyone ( in the US) thinks this can/will not happen to them is very niave. If this case goes well for the DOJ, it's only a matter of time.


You don't have to like Max, or Agree with his antics, but for God sake respect his right to do what is lawful between consenting adults.

Connor-

I am a Jew...

and Rabbi Blatt says

I am RIGHT-

I DID CALL YOU AS WELL

and sent you emails-

I got pawned off to Tom Hymes
In fact it was the last time I heard from Tom Hymes as well.

I miss Tom.

3PCD

Max's attorney is Jeffrey Douglas
and yes, Max was a member of the FSC the last time I heard.

and we all know Mr. Douglas' role with the FSC as well.

>>>>Look here Pastor... We're not the ones who spend all day long hanging out on other people's message boards trying to talk shit about other businesses in a desperate attempt to draw some attention to our name.

I know you will have some other lies to spit out, some other spin you think people here are foolish enough to believe... knock yourself out. I'm afraid I have to get back to business. I'll check back in a day to two to see what other amsing lies you've managed to think up... just be careful when you type, because there will be a public record."
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You are funny Connor-
I like your tenacity- it reminds me of Aly hopelessly defending her employers at AVN all while I knew she had no idea what she was talking about- While I picked away at her company she stood there defending them.

She couldn't change the regime over there no matter how much she would tell people she was hired to do so.

I sat back laughing realizing that some day soon she'd see the light- and guess what?

She is no longer at AVN- and she now knows better.
I feel the same way about Mike Hawk's tirade he started on this board about the .xxx people and and who supportd it-
While I applaud Mike's tenacity and know he is trying to fight the good fight- his heart is in the right place as is yours Connor- but you guys still don't know who you are fighting against-

And Sun Tzu in his "Art of War" states "Before one goes into battle one must know their terrain".

I don't think you get it yet-
The government has more money than us-
The government does NOT CARE about you, about porn or the safety of kids.

All they care about is pleasing the religious zealots who helped to re-elect this administration.

Period.

They will stop at nothing to please these people- and if you choose to underestimate the US Government and it's President it's your problem.

I know plenty of companies who have taken the necessary precautions to insure they don't get visits from the feds-

Do you know if Max is one of them?

I don't think it matters is Max is a member of the FSC. This appears to be an obscenity case not a 2257 case.

The war on porn has begun. I was thinking about how I have heard the war on porn is supposed to be similiar to the war on drugs. Feds raiding places left and right everyday confiscating shit. The same shit is going to happen to us and has begun with Max Hardcore.

This is becoming rediculous.

Hummmm... Are you refering too:

- Warchild
- the Truth Hurts
- Simple Simon
- Cambaby
- 12Shits
- Jason
- Bringer
- Baddog
- Strrr ( or whatever ...)
- The idiot in Phoenix ( Crowkid)


Anyway, we all know who's fault it is:

If 75 IQ or less can make you president of the USA, why couldn;t it make you a porn model?

Well...

I think....










Umm...


Fuck....


I am just gonna sit this one out.

So, where are they???


- Warchild
- the Truth Hurts
- Simple Simon
- Cambaby
- 12Shits
- Jason
- Bringer
- Baddog
- Strrr ( or whatever ...)
- The idiot in Phoenix ( Crowkid)
- MrShitovitch

Just DaddyHallbucks showed his face to make a ... confusing affirmation


Anyway, we all know who's fault it is:

Not surprised at all..very risqué content

I am NOT a registered Republican I just dont agree with extreme liberals like you. I am pro-business/anti-terrorist/anti-socialist. You simply dont have the IQ to differentiate between a moderate conservative and a right wing religious zealot.

Anyways Max has always said bring on the feds, thats been his selling point not to mention the fact that this whole complaint against Max probably was started when Ashcroft was in office.

i'm pro-terrorist

I think those are all one person with multiple handles

ahhh the joys of making insane amounts of money in the dating industry. Porn? I could care less I make no money in porn. Burn em all at the stake

didn't the canadian government come down pretty hard on sweet entertainment group a couple years ago? seized all their assets and ran them through the system before SEG was able to walk away without a conviction.

does not sound that far off from obscentiy prosecutions in the United States, if at all really

Ahh, it must be great knowing that all the Drug dealers, Murderers and Child molesters in the U.S are caught, and crime has ceased to exist, so the FBI have now become a Porn task force. </ blatent sarcasm>

You don't seem to understand that I look out for myself.

Let's run down the list of things I could care less about, just quickly.

1) People being busted for selling simulated rape, beastiliaty, defication, pissing. You put yourself in the crosshairs, don't cry when you take the hit. Anything for a dollar carries some risk, it would appear.
2) Poor people not having money for medicine.
3) Poor people drowning or losing their homes in N.O.
4) People dying in Iraq.

Starting to get the picture?

Let me list some things I am concerned with:

1) Me.
2) Mine.
3) My animals.
4) My bank account

See a trend?

Hi there...

There will come a time when you actually grow up when you'll realize that not all Republicans are far-right-religious-Republicans, and do not necessarily follow the party line when it comes to ever last issue.

Much like how not all Democrats are baby killing, pot smoking, unwashed hippies.

From the little I've seen, I don't care for Max Hardcore's content..
But I also don't care for the time, money, and resources being wasted on messing with consenting adult porn, when they could just as easily be out there chasing down the child porn peddlers... making everyone but the pedophiles happy.

Thank you for explaining that up so nicely. I'm trying to work and not get suckered in to this.

Wow you must have a lot of friends

I have enough friends for my liking. I also know they'd die for me.

I don't have many poor, liberal, hippie friends though.

are you referring to me?

hehe, i'm not republican, in fact i am simply very anti-politcal party. i think people lose site of how corrupt the entire political system is when they tend to focus things specifically on bush is all.

Yep, you and cambaby hang out in your "kill a commie for mommy" t-shirts and plan your next big day at the paint ball place.

I don't wear shirts that say kill anybody. I don't know cambaby. I have played paintball, it's actually pretty fun.

You run around calling people brainwashed, thiking that the other side of every issue is so stupid because they just can't see it the way you do. You'll probably never be self aware enough to realize you're exactly the same.

One more thing. Why don't you pick up the book The Greatest Generation.

The exact opposite of you. You are what is wrong with this country. It used to be that conservatives cared about their neighbors and friends. Now all it stands for I got mine, now you fucking get yours.

I don't expect you to understand any of this of course, because I know you will just spout off about me being a liberal. Not sure when caring for other people meant I was liberal, so be it. There are worse things, like being a narrow minded bible thumping conservative.

There you go again making assumptions. I don't believe in god. I haven't believed in god since I was about 12 years old and refused to go to Church anymore.

In only one paragraph you dismissed me by saying I would probably just stereotype you as being a Liberal and then went on to stereotype me. Like I said, you're exactly the same as those you hate and you can't even see it. Thank you for helping me prove my point.

Actually that isn't true at all. Most of my friends and relatives are conservative. Even they are saying that GWB is a horrible president, it's just that it is too late because they all voted for him twice.

I always vote for the person that I think will do the best job. I don't care what side he or she is on. I still can't believe that he won over Mc Cain. There's a true american in the truest form.

Seems to me that a piece of tree bark would do a better job than he has.
The bark might not get much done, but it can't do anything bad for the country either.

You can't actually look at the current state that this country is in and say it's hunky dorry. Get real.

If you actually would READ my post, I never said YOU were a bible thumper. Don't be so defensive. Seriously pick up that book. It was written by Tom Brokaw. It might just give you a little different perspective.

No, I don't think all is well in the United States. It's full of religious idiots that believe what they're told by their Clergy. Cheney, and Rove are smart enough to harness these morons for their own personal gain. On some level I actually can applaud that.

I don't think John Kerry could have fixed anything though. It is too bad McCain wasn't prepared for the tactics he was hit with. You're right, he'd have been a much better choice.

OMG!!!!! A liberal and a conservative agree on a choice for president. Stop the presses!!!!!!!!

wait wait


My name is pornguy and I live in a little fantasy world where pink elephants fly around delivering newspapers to the monkeys flying out of my butt!

Listen very carefully you fool. The US will NEVER EVER rule the world in any way shape or form. It will NEVER fucking happen - get that through your thick skull!. Especially whilst Bush is in administration.

And when they came for me there was noone left to speak up.

Nice post, 3pcd

I don't think they are all...
but I do feel there is a merger or 2 in the list

I have him on ignore, so I have no idea what my name is coming up for.