Bush wants military law because of the flu?

bush just wants something or someone to listen to him. poor little fellar.

Exactly. The Bush ass kissers are funny though in this thread.

If you supporters are so eager to give up your freedoms and welcome this flu, then why not just move to China now?

Does Bush think the "Flu" is short for people from some fictional country named Fluakistan? Is he preparing to defend against the evil WMD they possess? Or maybe he has "Germs" confused with Germans and he is preparing for war on them as well?

It's funny how you're trying to sneer and be all condescending in this post, considering amateurflix is making you look like a total fucking idiot.

You share many traits with your lordgod George Bush the frog killing saint.

Bushie also has replaced real, actual scientists with theocrats from the Heritage Foundation who produce only the results they're paid to produce.

IE Avian Flu is an emergency huge enough that he's forced - FORCED - to seize absolute power.

Global Warming, on the other hand, doesn't even exist. That wouldn't be good for Standard Oil.

This avian flu could be a monster health threat, but I think there are enough resources on it right now that it won't turn into a crisis situation.

The shit Bush said is scarier. Quarantine a US city with the military?? Good fucking luck pulling that one off. I'd love to see how the military thinks they could quarantine a city like LA with 10 million people when they can't even keep our borders sealed from wetbacks coming over by the thousands on a daily basis. What a crock of BS. You'd have the biggest state of anarchy in the history of the US if they even tried to pull that card on the American people. I think the people would actually march on washington and literally start kicking them all out of their offices.

There wouldn't be much to manage after a nuclear war with Russia.

Thats kind of a "we're fucked" scenario

That would be correct if all major cities were targetted - however I would assume that the military had also covered the possibility of only a few targets being hit which would have left plenty of survivors in surrounding areas, and even faced with that possibility this was not an acceptable solution.

I agree.

At the same time I have no idea about this bird virus.

However in the event of a Ebola type of virus outbreak it must be contained.

Yes, I am to dumb to understand.. that's why in my initial post I mentioned how scary it is. Of course, you read it all... so you know that.

Also, I like how you wished death on me and my family. That's very professional and mature of you.

I'm guessing you still must be mad about how I handled your BS professionally before. What? We stole some text and spammed? Was that your accusation towards me... that I proved you wrong and had handled well. What did you say after.... oh right "I have nothing against you personally." in this thread:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=451063

Apparently you do have something against me personally. That's too bad that you can't grow up... even after all this time.

Myself and my family will do just fine though, thank you for your wishes.

And why should you excist fucking low life piece of shit of a person.

You are the biggest Hater up my ass...keep hating i need people like
you hating the fact your a nobody that people don't even care about.

You threaten peoples family huh..fucking i will snap you in half the next
time i see you for saying that about Stuarts family...i promise you!!!!!

That's if your man enough to leave your home...Karma is a bitch

"You can't have this kind of war," President Dwight D. Eisenhower once told a committee of experts who were urging him to better prepare for one. "There just aren't enough bulldozers to scrape the bodies off the streets."

http://www.cdi.org/nuclear/rethinking.cfm

In the event of Utah getting hit by a ICBM there really isn't much rescuing that can be done.

bumpage ....

This is all blown way out of proportion. I doubt we'll see the flu at all, much less as a disease that kills in masses.

Yea, nice timing with the (im thinking ahead of time, im gonna save you) psych-ops propoganda.

welcome to the 4th reich.

Sort of.
The military can be used in such roles as long as they do not have the ability or power to arrest or detain individuals and leave that up to the national guard or local authorities.

I am about to choke on what I am about to say but here goes. Despite my dislike for Bush, I can see beyond it. It has been shown that during major issues such as a natural disaster or attack that keeping it at the state level just does not work and the military is indeed needed.
There are times when the military really is the answer. Although I am not one to support the Government stepping in or getting in the way of citizens on most issues. These are the type of exceptions that logic and reality prevails.

I can forgive you for everything you say. i know you are not in your right mind and i know how much it sucks for you waking up everyday knowing the the country chose a Republican President (twice), Senate and Congress and you are on the losing side and in the minority view.

when you spend your day attempting validate your own perspectives, feelings and views by dismissing the other 50% of the population as being a buch of fucking idiots... then you are just as dangerous as anyone else

He probably watched this movie on AF1 while flying over NOLA...

Plot Outline: Extreme measures are necessary to contain an epidemic of a deadly airborne virus. But how extreme, exactly?

god wants martial law, because the rapture is coming. Didn't you know that?

True. It is extremely depressing and frustrating to realize that roughly half this country is made up of people of your caliber.

and what is my "caliber" einstein? i did not vote for bush. i dont like bush. i began in this thread by asking a simple question "how would you contain such a pandemic if it occured" and everyone can only talk about how bush is an idiot.

so do you think he is in "the other 50%" group or in the "minority"?

or are you now defining a minority as 50% of the population?

then perhaps you should phrase your posts more intelligently and less vituperatively, so you won't be so easily mistaken for a dumb fucking conservative

For once I agree with his concern and potential use of the military. The avian flu is a monster waiting to come out of the closet. This is a when not an if.

:/

Thanks for the crying game, but my post was not for you.

My reply was not for Stuart.

You can stop sucking Stuart's dick. (Although I am sure you enjoy it).

"If you give up your liberty in the name of security, you will have neither."

an old quote....but, it applies to this potential disaster.

One of the constitutional tenets that have kept our country "free" has been the lack of law enforcement authority by the military. If you give up the right, you will never get it back.

It is just one more step in creating "George Bush World" in which the citizens have no political rights, the elections are rigged, the media is controlled by the State in conjunction with a few large corporations, and you are force fed bullshit like court TV and soap operas so you will feel good about your miserable situation.........

OR....

You can stand up and tell them "NO!!" and do something about it.

Sadly, there are many more sheep than sheep herders to protect them.

i was talking to him. he is a known extreme liberal. he is opposed to conservatives and conservative policies and in the US, we have a two party system with a basic breakdown of 50/50 between both views.

in terms of political power in the USA, he is in the minority right now. hopefully that would change in the next election where a more appropriate balance exists. but you know what? the people voted these people into office. the people have spoken. the people decided. you can't only support democracy when you agree with it... if thats the case, then you don't support democracy. its also extremely arrogant to wake up everyday and say yourself "i am completely right and you are completely wrong because i "get it" and you are just a fucking idiot" when referring to basically 125,000,000 people - to me, that is someone that is no different and no better and no less dangerous than those they oppose.

AmateurFlix, the above highlights my point exactly and typical of this conversation (not necessarily with you). "i hate bush" does not address the issue of how to contain a pandemic outbreak of highly infectious diseases that have no cure.

Military seems like a very reasonable solution. Or maybe "freedom" he is talking about is the same "freedom" that allowed 1000's to die in NO when Katrina hit? The same freedom that prevented local, city, state and federal agencies from effectively working together to save lives? The same freedom that saw dead bodies floating down mainstreet?

That same freedom that will allow 10,000 infected people flee a city and infect millions more - is that "freedom". Giving someone the ability to kill me and my family is "freedom"?

Was Ben Franklin making that remark (misquoted above) in the context of watching millions of people needlessly die because a disease could not be contained?

All i have been saying is "fine, hate on bush... whatever... but how do you deal with this threat"

Get Jack Bauer....

End of Story!



After all, you had Reagan and now Arnold ... and soon Ben ... so let's go !

This board is fucked up!!! post just are placed randomly.. look at the timestamp...

I prefered the old GFY ... fuck updates

Well yes that is a part of freedom, not the most attractive side of it by any means but a part of it nevertheless. The people there had a choice to stay in danger's way or to leave, and they chose to stay. Would you have preferred for them to have been removed by force?

That could happen at any time at all from any number of contagions. It's simply a part of being alive.

You would also be free to bunker yourself away from any major metropolis out in the middle of nowhere if you find yourself that concerned about it. Or prepare a portion of your household as a safe environment sealed off from contamination and keep supplies on hand to last for the duration of the problem - which is what the government should be telling people to do, to prepare a safe area for themselves.

The method I've described would permit you freedom and not interfere with others rights. What you are describing on the other hand would remove freedom from all parties concerned.

I will agree that my method requires much more preparation on the individual's part. Government isn't there to parent you in that instance. But would you rather do that or face the very real possibility that once the military is given an inroad to power that they will be unwilling to give it up? Or the even more likely possibility that next time they would be called it wouldn't be for something as drastic as this proposed situation, but instead in time they would be called for relatively minor disturbances?

The government has a tendency to do that in every instance it is given the opportunity to. It's not because our government is corrupt, it is because of the nature of man. Our forefathers had the vision to expect that type of behaviour and set up a system of checks and balances, and keep branches of government forever at odds with one another which keeps our freedoms intact. They're not supposed to work together like one happy family, if they do something has gone wrong and your freedoms are likely at risk. But lately there has been much talk of the "importance" of the various branches of government working together...

The military is a tool for the citizens of the US to use in defending borders. Like all militaries throughout history, it can be a dangerous tool if wielded improperly. In over 200 years here it has never been permitted to do what is being proposed, and it has for the most part fulfilled its other functions well. In that time this country has become synonymous with freedom. I don't think that should change.

well the natives were dying off from smallpox or measles or something around his time if I remember my history classes correctly... I don't believe they knew the causes of disease back then but if they did, I don't think it would have changed much.

I offer no solution for dealing with it and I'm not bashing Bush here either. My opinions and everyone else's on the current president are irrelevant to a law that would affect people for many years to come.

I'm just saying that this one solution, out of all the possible solutions that people could come up with, should not be permitted. I'm sure someone is capable of dealing this problem by some other means, it's just that this one isn't acceptable and shouldn't be considered.

directinfested has anyone ever told you ,you are a pain in the balls?
Now don't get all bent I mean that in the most loving why....