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09-30-2005, 11:40 AM

wow.. i do think this is the biggest asshole ive ever seen from a larger company...

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09-30-2005, 11:54 AM

I agree with you DirtyJ !

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09-30-2005, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by dirtydesignz

Who the fuck do you think you are? A business man? Well, you suck at it. You have not only been an asshole to one of the nicest women on GFY, you then seem to think you can say and do whatever you want based on who you think you are because it is GFY? Fuck you and fuck your phone spamming company. You have shown that you are a bottom feeder and that your business persona is that of a nobody fucktard. I don't care who the fuck you think you are or what company you are with.

Maybe you should get laid, its a fucking board... don't have a heart attack over it
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09-30-2005, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by dirtydesignz

Who the fuck do you think you are? A business man? Well, you suck at it. You have not only been an asshole to one of the nicest women on GFY, you then seem to think you can say and do whatever you want based on who you think you are because it is GFY? Fuck you and fuck your phone spamming company. You have shown that you are a bottom feeder and that your business persona is that of a nobody fucktard. I don't care who the fuck you think you are or what company you are with.

Lizzie, I totally apologized to Mandy and I do mean it. It was early and I was talking shit on GFY as I usually do, I definitely overstepped on that one...I do however think that the way Vivid Direct is marketed is completely within normal telemartketing procedures, from the list acquisition to the disclosures to potential customers.

What I wrote to Head_Hunter where I said he didn't know who he was talking to, I meant he had no idea who he was talking to...he told me that I was from NJ and that I was giving out model info. Totally false. I then went ahead and poked him a little.

Anyone who knows me, knows that I'm not that big of an asshole and that while I stand behind our marketing practices, I do apologize to Mandy for the rude remarks that I made.
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#105

09-30-2005, 12:32 PM

mike is nice guy. He made a mistake and he is man to admit it.

Now he should tell us how we get the DO NOT CALL list hehe
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#106

09-30-2005, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by esnem

I do apologize to Mandy for the rude remarks that I made.

i appreciate that.

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09-30-2005, 01:41 PM

a hint for the clueless

theyre not cold calling just anyone - theyre calling people who have opt-in to one list or another ect which was prob adult in nature

totally legal.

does anyone actually think VIVID is going to cold call people at dinner and pitch porn?
youre a moron if you do.

as for taking a survey of mandy, that was a real fuck-up which i dont think is vivid fault but actually the guy who made the call.

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#108

09-30-2005, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by Furious_Male

How the hell can a business model be built around attacking people when they question it?

Not to mention the marketing plan is flawed. Your calling houses to discuss porn. Regardless of how targeted the call lists are most households have more than 1 family member. Anyone can be taking the initial call. A majority of people that enjoy porn do it without their significant other knowing about it. This will just open up a can of worms.

It will take a few calls to underage individuals, or perhaps an influential politicians family (or friends) to put this into the mainstream media.

Just another black eye for the industry.

youre talking out of your uninformed ass. the lists are specific.

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#109

09-30-2005, 01:58 PM

maybe they should hire aaronM to just show up and cold visit you.....

he is good at that

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#110

09-30-2005, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by jonesy

youre talking out of your uninformed ass. the lists are specific.

Regardless of how specific they might be , even if george bush himself ordered 10 dildo's a week , if his daughter picked up the phone and was offered to take a porn survery because someone had bought porn products in the household , heads would fly, dont you agree ?

I think thats the only point he was trying to make..

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09-30-2005, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by esnem

Lizzie, I totally apologized to Mandy and I do mean it. It was early and I was talking shit on GFY as I usually do, I definitely overstepped on that one...I do however think that the way Vivid Direct is marketed is completely within normal telemartketing procedures, from the list acquisition to the disclosures to potential customers.

What I wrote to Head_Hunter where I said he didn't know who he was talking to, I meant he had no idea who he was talking to...he told me that I was from NJ and that I was giving out model info. Totally false. I then went ahead and poked him a little.

Anyone who knows me, knows that I'm not that big of an asshole and that while I stand behind our marketing practices, I do apologize to Mandy for the rude remarks that I made.

That was a much better response than your first one

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#112

09-30-2005, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

Regardless of how specific they might be , even if george bush himself ordered 10 dildo's a week , if his daughter picked up the phone and was offered to take a porn survery because someone had bought porn products in the household , heads would fly, dont you agree ?

I think thats the only point he was trying to make..

of course - but i disagree with the point furious was making that it is flawed

My Point is the telemarketer should only speak with the person on the list, no one else - how fucking hard a guidline is that to follow?

heres were it can be a pandoras box

because most telemarketers have quotas, there will be those who will fuck up and not go by this guidline and that fuckup like the scenerio described above will only bring unwanted attention.

gotta have the right people running the show thats all.

like i said in an earlier post - the BIGGEST purveyour of softcore T&A vids whose TV ads you see every night has been doing this for quite some time (over a yr) and no fuckups.

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09-30-2005, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

Regardless of how specific they might be , even if george bush himself ordered 10 dildo's a week , if his daughter picked up the phone and was offered to take a porn survery because someone had bought porn products in the household , heads would fly, dont you agree ?

I think thats the only point he was trying to make..

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09-30-2005, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by jonesy

of course - but i disagree with the point furious was making that it is flawed

My Point is the telemarketer should only speak with the person on the list, no one else - how fucking hard a guidline is that to follow?

heres were it can be a pandoras box

because most telemarketers have quotas, there will be those who will fuck up and not go by this guidline and that fuckup like the scenerio described above will only bring unwanted attention.

gotta have the right people running the show thats all.

like i said in an earlier post - the BIGGEST purveyour of softcore T&A vids whose TV ads you see every night has been doing this for quite some time (over a yr) and no fuckups.

point taken.. and i agree..

but... Wouldn't the biggest purveyor of t&a be ggw , and aren't they under investigation for illegally charging thousands of people for videos they never requested/have no way of cancelling ..? ( and also have been using the same tactics )

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09-30-2005, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

point taken.. and i agree..

but... Wouldn't the biggest purveyor of t&a be ggw , and aren't they under investigation for illegally charging thousands of people for videos they never requested/have no way of cancelling ..? ( and also have been using the same tactics )

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09-30-2005, 07:42 PM

*Note to Self*

Dear Self;
Add Vivid to your list of companies that you'll never do business with.

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#117

09-30-2005, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by jonesy

youre talking out of your uninformed ass. the lists are specific.

The lists may be specific, but if the operator is willing to talk to a secondary person if the main target isn't present you can throw specific out the window.

In this particular case the call wasn't even targeting Mandy it was targeting someone else in the house yet the operator proceeded to pitch Mandy.

Unless the marketing plan involves knowing everyone in the house is a consenting adult (which we know isn't possible) this call was in the wrong. The original target could not be reached. The operator should have disengaged the sales attempt.

You can name call all you want but this type of marketing is walking a thin grey line.

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09-30-2005, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by Furious_Male

The lists may be specific, but if the operator is willing to talk to a secondary person if the main target isn't present you can throw specific out the window.

In this particular case the call wasn't even targeting Mandy it was targeting someone else in the house yet the operator proceeded to pitch Mandy.

Unless the marketing plan involves knowing everyone in the house is a consenting adult (which we know isn't possible) this call was in the wrong. The original target could not be reached. The operator should have disengaged the sales attempt.

You can name call all you want but this type of marketing is walking a thin grey line.

agreed read my reply ot smokey -

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09-30-2005, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

point taken.. and i agree..

but... Wouldn't the biggest purveyor of t&a be ggw , and aren't they under investigation for illegally charging thousands of people for videos they never requested/have no way of cancelling ..? ( and also have been using the same tactics )

yea they are and thats their biggest fuckup.

im surprised they did this especially since theyre so high profile.

the only way to stop the re-blilling is to cancel your card.

whats amazing is credit card companies will not help with this and wont tell you the best way is to end it is to cancel your card ect.

whats even more fucked up they know this scam yet dont do a fucking thing about it.

of course you can disput the bill but you cant block anyone from hitting and re billing your card.

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