Drama: Please Tell Me Wellcash Did Not Chargeback $39 On Us?

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  • GTS Mark
    Vrume Mark
    • Jan 2001
    • 20912

    #1

    Drama: Please Tell Me Wellcash Did Not Chargeback $39 On Us?

    Jesus Christ? Wellcash just charged back a $39 charge for a Mark's Bookmarks partner account? Because your brother said he used your card? How fucking old are you guys 15? Who in the hell lets their brother use their credit card in the first place? Jeeesh!

    Holy shit guys, you have certainly lost a lot of respect in my book and in addition your company has been added to the blacklist of sponsors.

    DH
  • Manowar
    jellyfish  
    • Dec 2003
    • 71528

    #2

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    • GTS Mark
      Vrume Mark
      • Jan 2001
      • 20912

      #3
      I can't believe someone would chargeback a $39 charge? If you didn't want the account why not simply e-mail us and notify us? We would have refunded you back no problem at all...

      So very lame...

      DH

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      • slapass
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Nov 2002
        • 14625

        #4
        To chargeback you need an excuse. And this sounds just like that.

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        • Trent Edison
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jun 2003
          • 6132

          #5
          First time i hear about Wellcash...

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          • GTS Mark
            Vrume Mark
            • Jan 2001
            • 20912

            #6
            Originally posted by slapass
            To chargeback you need an excuse. And this sounds just like that.
            It's just very silly and unprofessional in my opinion... If they are willing to chargeback a frickin $39 partner account imagine what they would be willing to chargeback to someone else?

            I mean this is a complete waste of my time to be dealing with a $39 charge but I just don't want others to have to deal with these guys and suffer the same unprofessionalism.

            DH

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            • Phoenix
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              • Nov 2002
              • 35475

              #7
              hmm good to know ..thanks DH

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              • Johnny - Wellcash
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2004
                • 215

                #8
                Is it worth that i comment this? You have contacted me and i thought that we had solved this?

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                • dirtydesignz
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 1815

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Johnny - Wellcash
                  Is it worth that i comment this? You have contacted me and i thought that we had solved this?
                  Maybe you should have contacted DH instead of doing a chargeback in the first place....
                  LIZZIE

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                  • Johnny - Wellcash
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 215

                    #10
                    I will tell the story so we can have a end to this. I have used submitpasses couple of months and they have been great. When i payed i used my brothers creditcard. It seams that he have made a chargeback couse he didint know what he was paying.

                    If you think that i made a chargeback on 39usd its up to you.
                    Last edited by Johnny - Wellcash; 09-26-2005, 09:43 AM.

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                    • GTS Mark
                      Vrume Mark
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 20912

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dirtydesignz
                      Maybe you should have contacted DH instead of doing a chargeback in the first place....
                      Ex-fucking-actly.

                      DH

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                      • fuzebox
                        making it rain
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 22365

                        #12
                        I was disappointed with my marks bookmarks account, but I wouldn't think of charging back.

                        I think it takes running your own site and dealing with cc's and chargebacks to truly appreciate what an asshole move it is to do to someone else though...

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                        • wha wha wha
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 367

                          #13
                          so "wellcash" shot themselves in the foot before anyone even knew their name? lol.

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                          • Radiate
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 1454

                            #14
                            CBs make me sad

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                            • Raven
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 6874

                              #15
                              There are times when it's appropriate to charge back....only as a last resort, though, and after all channels for a refund or resolution have been exhausted.

                              Seems to me that DH would have gladly refunded....chargebacks suck.
                              Raven

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                              • pradaboy
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                                • Dec 2003
                                • 12931

                                #16
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                                • Johnny - Wellcash
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2004
                                  • 215

                                  #17
                                  DH you dont want to resolve this problem with me?

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                                  • adonthenet
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 16753

                                    #18
                                    not nice wellcash.. you realy should contact DH first.. his very honest in my opinion.

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                                    • CybermedAndy
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2004
                                      • 4170

                                      #19
                                      Lame excuse, if you used your brothers card you should be making him aware of the charges so he doesn't charge anything back.

                                      And if you don't tell him, he probably should have assumed it was one of your charges and to leave it.

                                      Either way I call BS on your excuse

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                                      • GTS Mark
                                        Vrume Mark
                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 20912

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Johnny - Wellcash
                                        DH you dont want to resolve this problem with me?
                                        Johnny I am always available to chat with people on ICQ, Ray has been dealing with you on this issue and I would prefer that you resolve things with him.

                                        I could care less about $39, it's the chargeback that drives me nuts. As anyone with a merchant account knows chargebacks are a big deal and we try to avoid them at all cost. It's hard to negotiate a lower % credit card processing rate when you get silly chargebacks like this...

                                        Maybe I flew over the top on this with you (and I apologize) but it infuriates me to no end when I see chargebacks that can easily have been avoided.

                                        DH

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                                        • Johnny - Wellcash
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jun 2004
                                          • 215

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by DrinkingMODerately
                                          Johnny I am always available to chat with people on ICQ, Ray has been dealing with you on this issue and I would prefer that you resolve things with him.

                                          I could care less about $39, it's the chargeback that drives me nuts. As anyone with a merchant account knows chargebacks are a big deal and we try to avoid them at all cost. It's hard to negotiate a lower % credit card processing rate when you get silly chargebacks like this...

                                          Maybe I flew over the top on this with you (and I apologize) but it infuriates me to no end when I see chargebacks that can easily have been avoided.

                                          DH
                                          Okey DH. No problem. Im really a nice guy and im very sorry for this. I will solve this with Ray.

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                                          • Ray@TastyDollars
                                            • May 2002
                                            • 6797

                                            #22
                                            I icq-ed Johnny from Wellcash.

                                            First I was told you used your brothers credit card and you dont know why he charged back. Then I was told "wtf, I spoke to him, he didnt do a CB"...theeeeeen I was told "wait he did do a CB, but maybe it was an erorr" wtf?

                                            Like I told you via ICQ, you HAVE to be responsible of you buy.

                                            Ray

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                                            • Shoehorn!
                                              Die With Your Boots On
                                              • Oct 2003
                                              • 22872

                                              #23
                                              Chargebacks suck if you have your own merchant account.

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                                              • Rui
                                                web
                                                • Dec 2001
                                                • 9533

                                                #24
                                                Well at least know most of us heard about this program...lol j/k

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                                                • HairToStay
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 1521

                                                  #25
                                                  To solve this, wellcash, you need to contact the credit card company and tell them it was a mistake and you now recognize the charge and want the chargeback reversed. They will bitch at you but will do it.

                                                  DH will still be stuck with the chargeback fee which, by right, you should return to him. The chargeback will still show on his account but will show as reversed, and will not be included in the number of chargebacks when calculating any fees for going over the limit.

                                                  I went through this with a customer who charged back a $78 video order. I called him and he said he didn't recognize the company name on his statement, even though it's clearly on the receipt. He contacted his bank, reversed the chargeback, and paid me the $35 chargeback fee as well. My account shows 1 chargeback in 7 years but if they read it, they will see it was reversed.

                                                  Get it reversed, pay them the chargeback fee you owe them, and use your own credit cards in the future.
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                                                  • xNetworx
                                                    So Fucking What
                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                    • 14445

                                                    #26
                                                    Although it is lame and bad business... why GTS is hurting the reputation of this little company over a tiny chargeback is beyond me. Don't you guys make enough cash on those expensive ads where you could just overlook this.

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                                                    • Dalai lama
                                                      Strength and Honor
                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                      • 16540

                                                      #27
                                                      that's so amateur.

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                                                      • Cory W
                                                        Deeply shallow
                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                        • 9133

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by pimpporn
                                                        Although it is lame and bad business... why GTS is hurting the reputation of this little company over a tiny chargeback is beyond me. Don't you guys make enough cash on those expensive ads where you could just overlook this.
                                                        Chargebacks are chargebacks, it does not matter how much was charged back. One transaction is one transaction, that simple.

                                                        Chargebacks are not something to take lightly.
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                                                        • Why
                                                          MFBA
                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 7230

                                                          #29
                                                          and your the juvenile fuck that brought it to the boards... hmm.

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                                                          • Sly
                                                            Let's do some business!
                                                            • Sep 2004
                                                            • 31379

                                                            #30
                                                            Yes I realize that chargebacks do suck and only hurt you, but it also seems like it happened unintentionally. Sure, you should be upset and want the issue resolved, but don't you think this thread was a little overkill?

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                                                            • sherie
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                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                              • 7020

                                                              #31
                                                              That totally blows!
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                                                              • WiredGuy
                                                                Pounding Googlebot
                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                • 34515

                                                                #32
                                                                This seems rather irresponsible to me. If you used someone else's credit card, that person is the one who's making the purchase and has the obligations to the agreement made. I don't know why you would use someone else's card like this without them knowing about it (which seems to be the case if they chargedback blindly) but it certainly demonstrates irresponsible management.

                                                                WG
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                                                                • HarlotCash Dyker
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                  • 1828

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                  This seems rather irresponsible to me. If you used someone else's credit card, that person is the one who's making the purchase and has the obligations to the agreement made. I don't know why you would use someone else's card like this without them knowing about it (which seems to be the case if they chargedback blindly) but it certainly demonstrates irresponsible management.

                                                                  WG
                                                                  Exactly - How can one person expect to run a business using another person's credit card? Makes no sense -
                                                                  If you can't use, or do not have your own credit card, are you under age or simply uncreditworthy?
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                                                                  • tranza
                                                                    ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                    • 57559

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Mark,

                                                                    I don't know if you're still there but I would like to talk to you ASAP. I'm pretty sure you know what this is about (I hope Ray fowarded the e-mail to you).
                                                                    I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                    • Captain WTF
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Sep 2005
                                                                      • 32

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Johnny - Wellcash
                                                                      I will tell the story so we can have a end to this. I have used submitpasses couple of months and they have been great. When i payed i used my brothers creditcard. It seams that he have made a chargeback couse he didint know what he was paying.

                                                                      If you think that i made a chargeback on 39usd its up to you.

                                                                      Sounds fair.

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