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  • Worldnet
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    • Feb 2003
    • 996

    #1

    So you thought old folks were stupid huh?

    Remember when grandparents and great-grandparents stated that they only had an 8th grade education?

    Well, check this out ... could any of us have passed the 8th grade in 1895?

    This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina, Kansas, USA ... it was taken from the original document on file at the Smokey Valley Genealogical Society and Library in Salina, KS, and reprinted by the Salina Journal.

    8th Grade Final Exam: Salina, KS - 1895

    Grammar (Time, one hour)
    1. Give nine rules for the use of capital letters.
    2. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no modifications.
    3. Define verse, stanza and paragraph.
    4. What are the principal parts of a verb? Give principal parts of "lie," "play," and "run."
    5. Define case -- illustrate each case.
    6. What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of punctuation.
    7 - 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of
    grammar.

    Arithmetic (Time, 1.25 hours)
    1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
    2. A wagon box is 2 ft.deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
    3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50 cents/bushel, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?
    4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000 -- what is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
    5. Find the cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.
    6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
    7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $20 per meter?
    8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
    9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance of which is 640 rods?
    10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.

    U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)
    1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided.
    2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus.
    3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
    4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.
    5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.
    6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
    7. Who were the following -- Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe?
    8. Name events connected with the following dates -- 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, 1865.

    Orthography (Time, one hour)
    1. What is meant by the following -- Alphabet, Phonetic, Orthography, Etymology, Syllabication?
    2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
    3. What are the following, and give examples of each -- Trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals.
    4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u.'
    5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.' and name two exceptions under each rule.
    6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling and illustrate each.
    7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word -- bi, >dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup.
    8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
    9. Use the following correctly in sentences -- cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
    10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.

    Geography (Time, one hour)
    1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
    2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?
    3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
    4. Describe the mountains of North America.
    5. Name and describe the following -- Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, >Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco.
    6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S.
    7. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of each.
    8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
    9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
    10. Describe the movements of the earth -- give the inclination of the earth.


    Notice that the exam took FIVE HOURS to complete!

    Gives the saying "he only had an 8th grade education" a whole new meaning, doesn't it?

    Also shows you how poor our education system has become.
  • Drake
    Hello world!
    • Mar 2003
    • 12508

    #2
    That's incredible. Do you know what the pass/failure rate of students taking the test was?

    Those are tough questions (by our standards) for 8th grade. I wonder if this was typical of if that particular exam was atypical or that school was some kind of elite school?

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    • evildick

      #3
      http://www.snopes.com/language/document/1895exam.htm

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      • phogirl69
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2001
        • 3330

        #4
        Yea for some reason i always think people in the past are not as smart as us today because they didn't have modern technology but to be honest I wouldn't able to do those 8th grade questions even today. I was very surprised to learn that algebra was invented before christ, i always think that if it's hard for me, then no one in the past would be able to do it because surely I'm smarter... lol

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        • Drake
          Hello world!
          • Mar 2003
          • 12508

          #5
          Thanks for clearing that up!

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          • amandaspost
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            • Aug 2004
            • 1935

            #6
            wow, thats crazy
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            • phogirl69
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              • Jul 2001
              • 3330

              #7
              Are those real problems even really "solvable". Looks like some of it is made up bullshit that's not possible to solve or that no human being would really be able to solve.

              Like these ones :

              2. A wagon box is 2 ft.deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?

              3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50 cents/bushel, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?

              Perhaps back then they just let people pass who were rich and came from influential families and just made up the questions and answers? The bushel problem doesn't seem like a real question, it's one of those questions where ANYTHING could be the answer.

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              • After Shock Media
                It's coming look busy
                • Mar 2001
                • 35299

                #8
                Originally posted by phogirl69
                Are those real problems even really "solvable". Looks like some of it is made up bullshit that's not possible to solve or that no human being would really be able to solve.

                Like these ones :

                2. A wagon box is 2 ft.deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?

                3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50 cents/bushel, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?
                2. That would be 60 cubic feet, and a US bushel is about 2150 cubic inches, just do the math.

                3. 3942 - 1050 for tare = 2892 lbs. Which comes to about 36.688 bushels. Times .50 per bushel = $18.34
                This was the most tricky, since I did not know the easy formula. I did know how many liters per bushel, so I had to convert pounds to gallons then gallons to liters then liters to bushels. You may want to check my math, a bushel is 35.24 liters.

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                • phogirl69
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                  • Jul 2001
                  • 3330

                  #9
                  Originally posted by After Shock Media
                  2. That would be 60 cubic feet, and a US bushel is about 2150 cubic inches, just do the math.

                  3. 3942 - 1050 for tare = 2892 lbs. Which comes to about 36.688 bushels. Times .50 per bushel = $18.34
                  This was the most tricky, since I did not know the easy formula. I did know how many liters per bushel, so I had to convert pounds to gallons then gallons to liters then liters to bushels. You may want to check my math, a bushel is 35.24 liters.
                  Never even heard of a "bushel" before, I didn't know you were supposed to calculate cubic feet to figure out how many bushels go in there, I got mostly c's and d's in math back in high school.

                  I thought it was a question where just anything could be the answer...

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                  • Silent_Thunder
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                    • Feb 2004
                    • 5258

                    #10
                    It looks that these question for a 8th grade USA resident shoudn't be very hard to solve.

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                    • After Shock Media
                      It's coming look busy
                      • Mar 2001
                      • 35299

                      #11
                      Originally posted by phogirl69
                      Never even heard of a "bushel" before, I didn't know you were supposed to calculate cubic feet to figure out how many bushels go in there, I got mostly c's and d's in math back in high school.

                      I thought it was a question where just anything could be the answer...
                      Have spent a long time gardening as well as living either on a farm or around them. So you do pick up terms like bushel. Hell there is even technically a correct distance for a pace and other crazy shit. Or such shit as Five and one-half yards equal a rod fourty rods equal a furlong, eight furlongs equal a mile. Another is the weight of a grain is 1/480th a troy ounce and pennyweight is 24 grains. Fun eh?

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                      • Worldnet
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                        • Feb 2003
                        • 996

                        #12
                        Snopes has some good stuff on it! I heard the alligator one.
                        http://snopes.com/info/top25uls.asp

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                        • nico-t
                          emperor of my world
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 29901

                          #13
                          o man thats toooooooo easy i never knew old people were THAT retarded

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                          • tristan_D
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                            • Jul 2005
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                            #14
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                            • Kard63
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                              • Nov 2003
                              • 8944

                              #15
                              I never thought they were stupid. I just hate driving behind them. Of course their reflexes suck so it would probably be worse if they sped up.

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                              • Wiggles
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                                • May 2004
                                • 14423

                                #16
                                yeah but if we lived back then we'd also know more of these old terms and would have studied these types of problems, not that difficult.
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                                • Pipecrew
                                  Master of Gfy.com
                                  • Feb 2002
                                  • 14888

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by phogirl69
                                  Never even heard of a "bushel" before, I didn't know you were supposed to calculate cubic feet to figure out how many bushels go in there, I got mostly c's and d's in math back in high school.

                                  I thought it was a question where just anything could be the answer...
                                  I thought all asians were great with math!

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                                  • chaze
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                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 9774

                                    #18
                                    It's all memory based crap, that's why school actually takes away from most people that want to do things on their own. To remember such minor details takes away from being able to think outside the box. It' trains you to think like everyone else.

                                    School someday we will have customized computer based studies for each student online, the teacher will just keep the student from slacking and playing.

                                    The studies will be differant for each kid and find what he naturally excells at and help push that ability to it's fullest potential. It will be based on trouble shooting, more then memory.

                                    Then we will start truly evolving as a race.

                                    Of course we will almost all work from homes by then and start our own business sometime in our teens.
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                                    • phogirl69
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                                      • Jul 2001
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Pipecrew
                                      I thought all asians were great with math!
                                      Not me, I HATE math and science. I am only good in English, even though English is my THIRD language... I HATE all math...

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                                      • J-$
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                                        • Mar 2005
                                        • 2090

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by chaze
                                        It's all memory based crap, that's why school actually takes away from most people that want to do things on their own. To remember such minor details takes away from being able to think outside the box. It' trains you to think like everyone else.

                                        School someday we will have customized computer based studies for each student online, the teacher will just keep the student from slacking and playing.

                                        The studies will be differant for each kid and find what he naturally excells at and help push that ability to it's fullest potential. It will be based on trouble shooting, more then memory.

                                        Then we will start truly evolving as a race.

                                        Of course we will almost all work from homes by then and start our own business sometime in our teens.

                                        ...word
                                        (but lets not generalize school can be benificial for anybody, altough is not required in order to achieve)

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                                        • reed_4
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                                          • Jul 2005
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                                          #21
                                          What we are right now are the result of the hardworks of our Grandparents.

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                                          • rebel_vamp
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                                            • Sep 2005
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                                            #22
                                            holy cow, i wouldn't have passed that darn test

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