As a businessman, my opinion of the Playboy "buyout / merger"...

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  • Rob
    I'm a great bowler.
    • Nov 2003
    • 13310

    #1

    As a businessman, my opinion of the Playboy "buyout / merger"...

    Here's a true story...

    I knew a guy once that started a company selling nutrition supplements online. He sold them for pretty much what he got them for at wholesale and never made any money on the company. His mark up was considerably lower than that of 99% of other retailers so he got the business. After 2 years he had over 10,000 customers (when you sell a quality product cheaper than anyone else, the word travels like a wild fire).

    Needless to say, with 10,000 customers he was making a modest living at roughly $100,000 a year. Which isn't bad, but isnt' great for that amount of customers. Then he received the phone call he had been waiting for: General Nutrition Centers (GNC). They offered him a buy out package worth $15M. They stated that his prices were killing their retail sales because they couldn't compete with his prices. They had overhead, he had none. They HAD to buy him out.

    Moral of the story: People start businesses to eventually sell them.

    So, I totally understand and agree with what Lensman did with the Playboy situation and I salute him for building a company worth selling. Especially to a company as prestigious as Playboy.

    GFY will change but I think it will be for the better.
  • Ray Nagin
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    • Sep 2005
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    #2
    I dont think you understand what happened here



    this is not a FAKE NICK

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    • TheMob
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      • Jan 2003
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      #3
      You are a genius.

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      • Rob
        I'm a great bowler.
        • Nov 2003
        • 13310

        #4
        Originally posted by Ray Nagin
        I dont think you understand what happened here
        Enlighten me then.

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        • Rob
          I'm a great bowler.
          • Nov 2003
          • 13310

          #5
          Originally posted by TheMob
          You are a genius.
          I know.

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          • KRL
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            #6
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            • Ace_luffy
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              • Feb 2005
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              #7
              hmmmmm ... we need complete info about buyout and merge issue


              why ?


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              • Pete-KT
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                • Oct 2004
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                #8
                good work highonacid

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                • SinisterStudios
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                  • Nov 2003
                  • 3087

                  #9
                  When your business is going so well your dont want to sell it , that is the time to sell. I was told that by a very wise and successful businessman whom is one of my mentors. And he sure is right on the money with that statement.
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                    • woj
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by SinisterStudios
                      When your business is going so well your dont want to sell it , that is the time to sell. I was told that by a very wise and successful businessman whom is one of my mentors. And he sure is right on the money with that statement.
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                      • Rui
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                        • Dec 2001
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                        #12
                        Very interesting story and makes perfect sense.

                        I think you managed to pass the message better than any other posts so far about this merge/buyout!

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                        • eroswebmaster
                          March 1st, 2003
                          • Jul 2001
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                          #13
                          LOL I would sell this place off in a heart beat with the money they had to offer.
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                          • Rui
                            web
                            • Dec 2001
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                            LOL I would sell this place off in a heart beat with the money they had to offer.
                            well but we all know how much you hate this industry and the people in it, so you are a bit biased when saying that don't you think?

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                            • eroswebmaster
                              March 1st, 2003
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 20295

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rui
                              well but we all know how much you hate this industry and the people in it, so you are a bit biased when saying that don't you think?
                              LOL man..who cares it's all about the $ in the end.
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                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                • Mar 2003
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                                #16
                                Success in business is all based on evolution of the business.

                                GFY could not be what it is now without change in mind.

                                GFY has evolved since day 1.
                                The PlayBoy buy was inevitable for growth.

                                If a business does not evolve it is a dying business.

                                Mustering out for a financial gain should never based on financial gain but financial sense regarding the future.

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                                • Nasty
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                                  • Aug 2002
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                                  #17
                                  GFY is the only place I know of where you can get sound business advice from an alien and someone high on acid

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                                  • TheMob
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                                    • Jan 2003
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Nasty
                                    GFY is the only place I know of where you can get sound business advice from an alien and someone high on acid
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                                    • NoComments
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                                      • Jan 2005
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Ray Nagin
                                      I dont think you understand what happened here
                                      he doesn't...I think Lensman was making more online than Playboy,
                                      I know I was back in the 90's when they were losing millions online selling memberships at $6.95
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                                      • broke
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                                        • Aug 2003
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                                        #20
                                        Ha -- Serge makes an appearance.

                                        Must be big news.
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                                        • Ace-wtf
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                                          • Jun 2005
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Nasty
                                          GFY is the only place I know of where you can get sound business advice from an alien and someone high on acid

                                          good one

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                                          • slapass
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                                            • Nov 2002
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Winetalk
                                            he doesn't...I think Lensman was making more online than Playboy,
                                            I know I was back in the 90's when they were losing millions online selling memberships at $6.95
                                            But you know about selling chat boards. When it is this smoking hot, it is a great time to bail.

                                            AP, REalitycash and playboy plus are nice but not powerhouses. Playboy bought some nice revenue and access to webmasters. This is a coup for Lensman but what the hell is Playboy going to do with it?

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                                            • Rui
                                              web
                                              • Dec 2001
                                              • 9533

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                              LOL man..who cares it's all about the $ in the end.
                                              offtopic: your sig is borked (bw exceded) it has been showing that msg over the past days

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                                              • Jer
                                                God is Brazilian
                                                • Feb 2001
                                                • 10601

                                                #24
                                                Nice story

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                                                • colpanic
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                                                  #25
                                                  So here's a question for you guys. I've had a couple people in the adult world repeatedly tell me "you don't understand... adult is not like the mainstream business." Now I understand that a lot of people are close friends here (but secretly, thats exactly how most business works)... To me, business is about money at the end of the day.

                                                  So.. if you think it is different. how?
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                                                  • Loryn
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                                                    • Jul 2003
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by slapass
                                                    But you know about selling chat boards. When it is this smoking hot, it is a great time to bail.

                                                    AP, REalitycash and playboy plus are nice but not powerhouses. Playboy bought some nice revenue and access to webmasters. This is a coup for Lensman but what the hell is Playboy going to do with it?
                                                    Expand their buisness in the online world maybe??? I mean I don't know, it's just a hunch.
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                                                    • slapass
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                      • 14625

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com
                                                      Expand their buisness in the online world maybe??? I mean I don't know, it's just a hunch.
                                                      You know more then I do but I would say it is an a weird marriage.

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                                                      • NoComments
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by slapass
                                                        This is a coup for Lensman but what the hell is Playboy going to do with it?
                                                        NOTHING, if they are smart and just let Lens run it.
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                                                        • eroswebmaster
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                                                          • Jul 2001
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Rui
                                                          offtopic: your sig is borked (bw exceded) it has been showing that msg over the past days
                                                          LOL dumbshit..not it's not
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                                                          • pubenemy
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                            LOL dumbshit..not it's not

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                                                            • eroswebmaster
                                                              March 1st, 2003
                                                              • Jul 2001
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by pubenemy
                                                              photobucket.com BW exceeded is what I see...
                                                              LOL then you don't see very well
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                                                              • Drake
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                                                                • Mar 2003
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                                                                #32
                                                                That's a neat story.

                                                                The merger/buyout also serves as a great segue for Lensman when he eventually chooses to retire. What could be better than leaving his biz in the hands of a company such as playboy. He could maintain shares in the company forever.

                                                                Just ask quiet and others with established successful online adult businesses how difficult it is to sell it to move on with their lives.

                                                                Playboy has obviously been trying to expand into different niches and mediums so that's probably their reasoning for the purchase.
                                                                Last edited by Drake; 09-24-2005, 03:50 PM.

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                                                                • Nysus
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                                                                  • Aug 2001
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by SinisterStudios
                                                                  When your business is going so well your dont want to sell it , that is the time to sell. I was told that by a very wise and successful businessman whom is one of my mentors. And he sure is right on the money with that statement.
                                                                  Not quite as simple as "I don't want to sell it" that should come into play.. but hey, I'll buy something if you don't want to sell it.. well, I'd check it out first.

                                                                  Matt
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                                                                  • Nysus
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Mike33
                                                                    That's a neat story.

                                                                    The merger/buyout also serves as a great segue for Lensman when he eventually chooses to retire. What could be better than leaving his biz in the hands of a company such as playboy. He could maintain shares in the company forever.

                                                                    Just ask quiet and others with established successful online adult businesses how difficult it is to sell it to move on with their lives.

                                                                    Playboy has obviously been trying to expand into different niches and mediums so that's probably their reasoning for the purchase.
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                                                                    Matt
                                                                    What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

                                                                    Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

                                                                    See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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                                                                    • HDADULT
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                                                                      • Aug 2005
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      One of the best threads I think i read here. I find the buyout to be quite interesting to say the least. Thats why we build businesses...to sell, partner, expand. It becomes your baby though and sometimes emotions take over that can get you in trouble.
                                                                      Just hope that lensman has great lawyers and legal advise and makes the right moves as to ultimatley end up happy with the deal. What a great exit clause in any business plan...Sell to Playboy, Party with Hef
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                                                                      • AdPatron
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        It's called an "exit strategy".

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                                                                        • tony299
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                                                                          • Aug 2002
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Well since playboy is a public company we will eventually be able to read the exact terms of the deal. I think the net isnt as profitable as it once was and with the government possibly coming down .Being under the umbrella of a big corporation offers a level of protection and income. If no cash changed hands that will tell the tale because Playboy stock isnt exactly red hot.

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                                                                          • HDADULT
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            this makes sense...

                                                                            http://www.detnews.com/2005/technolo...ech-292539.htm
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                                                                            • tony299
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                                                                              • Aug 2002
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by HDADULT
                                                                              Zinio is handling that.They do marketing as well, I know because I had a businessweek subcription from them .They spam me with mag offers all the time.

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                                                                              • Snake Doctor
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                                                                                • Mar 2001
                                                                                • 13449

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                                                LOL then you don't see very well
                                                                                That's what I'm seeing to man. You probably have the image in your cache so you still see it.
                                                                                sig too big

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                                                                                • Rui
                                                                                  web
                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                  • 9533

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                                                  LOL dumbshit..not it's not
                                                                                  LOL keep saying that to yourself....

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                                                                                  • Rui
                                                                                    web
                                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                                    • 9533

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I don't even know why i'm helping you since you are such a wise-ass but anyway here is a clue about what most people that don't have the image cached see...



                                                                                    Take these and go buy a clue

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                                                                                    • GTS Mark
                                                                                      Vrume Mark
                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                      • 20912

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I think it's a great move for Lensman and crew... With Playboy they are now in the realm of "mainstream acceptability" plus having that Playboy connection it will open up way more doors for them. For Playboy it will certainly expand their presence in the online market and give them a much needed revenue shot in the arm with Lensman's cash programs and GFY.

                                                                                      I think it was a very wise move for both parties and to be honest with you I saw this coming as soon as I heard Lens was doing business with Playboy back a couple of years ago.

                                                                                      Congrats to both parties

                                                                                      DH

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                                                                                      • Nysus
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                                                                                        • Aug 2001
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by DrinkingMODerately
                                                                                        I think it's a great move for Lensman and crew... With Playboy they are now in the realm of "mainstream acceptability" plus having that Playboy connection it will open up way more doors for them. For Playboy it will certainly expand their presence in the online market and give them a much needed revenue shot in the arm with Lensman's cash programs and GFY.

                                                                                        I think it was a very wise move for both parties and to be honest with you I saw this coming as soon as I heard Lens was doing business with Playboy back a couple of years ago.

                                                                                        Congrats to both parties

                                                                                        DH
                                                                                        I think everyone knew Lensman was doing business with Playboy ... He's been kind of running a large chunk of their online operations for the past while...

                                                                                        And mainstream acceptability isn't really much of a factor; the protection of being under Playboy however would be, the only issue being that Playboy has always generally stayed in the softcore arena, and they just bought a lot of hardcore ... I'm sure they can afford a few good lawyers though.



                                                                                        Matt
                                                                                        What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

                                                                                        Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

                                                                                        See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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                                                                                        • kosta
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                                                                                          • Mar 2002
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Rui
                                                                                          I don't even know why i'm helping you since you are such a wise-ass but anyway here is a clue about what most people that don't have the image cached see...



                                                                                          Take these and go buy a clue
                                                                                          God, you are an IDIOT !
                                                                                          Right-click on his image and see where it's being pulled off.

                                                                                          Looks like you need to buy a clue yourself.

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                                                                                          • Nysus
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                                                                                            • Aug 2001
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Nysus
                                                                                            I think everyone knew Lensman was doing business with Playboy ... He's been kind of running a large chunk of their online operations for the past while...

                                                                                            And mainstream acceptability isn't really much of a factor; the protection of being under Playboy however would be, the only issue being that Playboy has always generally stayed in the softcore arena, and they just bought a lot of hardcore ... I'm sure they can afford a few good lawyers though.



                                                                                            Matt
                                                                                            Oh, also, I do realize they have Spice and such, they're just continuing their expansion.. It is smart for both.

                                                                                            Matt
                                                                                            What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

                                                                                            Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

                                                                                            See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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                                                                                            • Sparks
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              I agree with HighOnAcid on this one...

                                                                                              You cannot get married to a business. When someone wants to buy and the price is right you sell.

                                                                                              Good for you Lensman. All your hard work has paid off!

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                                                                                              • Doctor Dre
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                                                                                                • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                If I get the move right, it's more of a merging then something else... Lens should be banking MORE then he is right now .
                                                                                                Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                                I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                                • tony299
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Hostive
                                                                                                  I agree with HighOnAcid on this one...

                                                                                                  You cannot get married to a business. When someone wants to buy and the price is right you sell.

                                                                                                  Good for you Lensman. All your hard work has paid off!
                                                                                                  I think they were more aquired then bought

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                                                                                                  • Sosa
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    very well said

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