Reminder: The USA Is More Free Than Europe

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  • notjoe
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    • May 2002
    • 5599

    #51
    woj needs some

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    • zx35
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2003
      • 141

      #52
      Originally posted by DynaSpain
      Please enjoy your freedom......we don't want to be rescued.....fuck off
      hahaha
      ooohhhhhh, hilarious!
      made my day!

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      • Nathan
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        • Jul 2003
        • 3108

        #53
        Chief,

        before you post something about a country in europe, educate yourself please.

        The Vlaamse Block _IS_ an extreme-right party.. There is no and never has been any doubt about it. They just could not outlaw it before because of some loopholes they used. The Vlaamse Block is NOT the biggest party in BELGIUM, it is the biggest party in the Flemish part of Belgium, and honestly, scares the living hell out of me.

        The reason that the Vlaamse Block is popular in the Flemish part of Belgium is that they are pro splitting up the country in 2 or maybe even 3 parts. Its all a little bit more complicated than this article makes it look I fear...

        So, get your facts straight and do not base it on one article from a UK newspaper...
        "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
        - Charlie Munger

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        • Paul Markham
          Too old to care
          • Jun 2001
          • 52942

          #54
          Originally posted by Nathan

          So, get your facts straight
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          • Odin
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            • Jan 2004
            • 2545

            #55
            Originally posted by Nathan
            Chief,

            before you post something about a country in europe, educate yourself please.

            The Vlaamse Block _IS_ an extreme-right party.. There is no and never has been any doubt about it. They just could not outlaw it before because of some loopholes they used. The Vlaamse Block is NOT the biggest party in BELGIUM, it is the biggest party in the Flemish part of Belgium, and honestly, scares the living hell out of me.

            The reason that the Vlaamse Block is popular in the Flemish part of Belgium is that they are pro splitting up the country in 2 or maybe even 3 parts. Its all a little bit more complicated than this article makes it look I fear...

            So, get your facts straight and do not base it on one article from a UK newspaper...
            Actually I read alot about the Vlaams Blok in the past, and I know exactly what it is. I also know Belgium is a country that was established without a desire from either the Francophones or the Flemmish, and that they have been fighting for an independent state ever since. Many Flemmish joined in to fight with the Nazi's in the belief that Hitler would make them their own independent state.

            I am not as simple as you might think, and whilst I had known about the Vlaams Blok for some time I was unaware they where banned as a political party. Please inform me what loopholes they used to escape being shutdown? I mean what you are supporting is essentially Stalinist type politics, whereby a party you don't agree with is simply shut down.

            The Vlaams Blok has a heap of support, and for very good reason. With immigration, low birth-rates, etc the Flemmish people will only survive a few more generations before being wiped into insignificance and the Vlaams Blok is fighting to stop this from happening.
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            • Gunni
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2003
              • 2385

              #56
              Originally posted by Chief
              Just a friendly reminder after I ran over yet another example (albeit 1 year old) of the European communist elite taking over freedom. This would not of happened in the USA:

              http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../ixportal.html

              Belgium's most popular political party was banned as racist by the country's high court yesterday, fuelling concerns that the judicial branch is being used to eliminate political enemies.

              .....

              The high court upheld an earlier ruling that party branches had violated race laws by distributing 16 leaflets in the late 1990s deemed to be incitement against immigrants. The party attacked the ruling as a breach of free speech since much of the material consisted of official statistics.

              One of the tracts, denouncing female circumcision in Islamic countries, was written by a Turkish-born woman member of the Vlaams Blok but the court ruled that the arguments were intended to foment anti-Muslim feeling.

              The US has its faults, but Europeans need to wake up and stop thinking they are perfect.
              This thread is actually worthless with out links to the leaflets, taking one example of a Turkish-born woman who is against female circumsision (not practised in Turkey btw.) means shit, as I am 100% sure that was not the racist comments they got sentenced for.

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              • Anthony
                Keyboard Warrior
                • Feb 2001
                • 9653

                #57
                Originally posted by charly
                Freedom is a personal thing. If you are free to worship and live as you like you don't worry about others who are not.

                So on this board which one of you seriously thinks you're as free as the EU?

                After reading this

                Seems freedom to earn a living is getting harder for some industries in the US and after watching the US guys at the Amsterdam show I think they would agree with me.
                After watching someone you can deduce that freedom to earn a living is getting harder?

                You are such a pseudo intellectual. I wish I could watch a few group of people and have your deduction wizardry.

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                • Dirty F
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 59204

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Chief
                  What don't you people realise, almost every European country has the same laws.

                  Well i stopped reading and taking you serious there.

                  Moron.

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                  • MetroPornTour
                    Confirmed User
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 1043

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Chief
                    Yes because quite obviously I am the one who needs a clue. I mean, clearly making a bestiality video is a much more important right than being able to express a point of view democratically. What cracks me up is you idiots fail to realise how insane it is for the most popular political party to be banned out of fear. Lets imagine it the other way, how would you react if a liberal party in the USA received the most votes in an election, and than was banned by the Republican for supporting terrorism because they publicly rejected 'anti-terrorism' laws. You horse fuckers would be having a fit on here.

                    And MetroPornTour I do mostly agree with you, and that is essentially what I am saying here. These people in power (in the Europe they happen to be neo-Communists), will do whatever necessary to hang on to power. However this is a great example of when their attempts to push their opinion through the media, the education system, etc fail they have no problem with resorting to such things as sanctions and the illegalisation of political parties.

                    But who cares right, as long as I can fuck a pigeon and film it
                    Neo-communist, Neo-conservative, Liberal, Democrat---- Democracy vs. Dictatorship.

                    This is the problem with patriotism. Patriots always get caught up playing the "My country is better than your country game."

                    In truth it all the same. Comparing these various things is like comparing multiple piles of shit and trying to decide which one smells better.

                    And yes I ask what my country can do for me. Afterall, I fucking pay those assholes. They are supposed to work for me and not the other way around.

                    Patriotism of any kind sucks!
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                    • directfiesta
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 30192

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Chief
                      Actually I read alot about the Vlaams Blok in the past, and I know exactly what it is. I also know Belgium is a country that was established without a desire from either the Francophones or the Flemmish, and that they have been fighting for an independent state ever since. Many Flemmish joined in to fight with the Nazi's in the belief that Hitler would make them their own independent state.

                      I am not as simple as you might think, and whilst I had known about the Vlaams Blok for some time I was unaware they where banned as a political party. Please inform me what loopholes they used to escape being shutdown? I mean what you are supporting is essentially Stalinist type politics, whereby a party you don't agree with is simply shut down.

                      The Vlaams Blok has a heap of support, and for very good reason. With immigration, low birth-rates, etc the Flemmish people will only survive a few more generations before being wiped into insignificance and the Vlaams Blok is fighting to stop this from happening.

                      You can use this to continue digging yourself in ... or out ...

                      I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                      But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                      • Anthony
                        Keyboard Warrior
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 9653

                        #61
                        Originally posted by thinkx
                        funny to see how clueless some ppl are especially those who never been in Europe never took effort in learning or even looking at the political systems here and still post crap

                        like I said funny
                        You still on your high horse about how elite you EU types are?

                        Shut the fuck up already.

                        So many EU types generalize all day long on this board about the US, but once someone does it to you and your kind, it's such a bad thing.

                        Hypocrite.

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                        • Odin
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 2545

                          #62
                          Originally posted by Franck
                          Well i stopped reading and taking you serious there.

                          Moron.
                          I can not help if you are ignorant to the laws in Britian, France, Norway, etc moron.

                          Originally posted by MetroPornTour
                          Neo-communist, Neo-conservative, Liberal, Democrat---- Democracy vs. Dictatorship.

                          This is the problem with patriotism. Patriots always get caught up playing the "My country is better than your country game."

                          In truth it all the same. Comparing these various things is like comparing multiple piles of shit and trying to decide which one smells better.

                          And yes I ask what my country can do for me. Afterall, I fucking pay those assholes. They are supposed to work for me and not the other way around.

                          Patriotism of any kind sucks!
                          Actually if you understand sociology you'd realise that nationalism on some level is certainly a healthy thing. I actually wrote a 3,000 word essay on the topic in my first year at university. About Nationalism, Ethnicity, and Globalisation. If you're interested to read it let me know and I'll dig it up.
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                          • AmateurFlix
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 7762

                            #63
                            Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                            Well in the Netherlands you can smoke dope legally, eat magic mushrooms legally, get a whore legally, marry your gay lover legally and if you're old and decrepit you can kill yourself legally.

                            Sounds like I'm more free there than in the USA.

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                            • fedfest
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2002
                              • 1334

                              #64
                              Originally posted by Chief
                              Reminder: The USA Is More Free Than Europe
                              You've got to be kidding

                              Originally posted by Chief
                              What don't you people realise, almost every European country has the same laws.
                              We certainly do.. Any European not stopping for Red light will get at least 2 years in one of those horrible Turkish prissons

                              Originally posted by Chief
                              Yes you are right, because eating magic mushrooms is quite obviously a pillar of any democratic society. Whereas the right to form a political party is quite insignificant.
                              Like the right to form the Comunist Party in USA.. right ?

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                              • TheMob
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                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8584

                                #65
                                Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                                The only thing limiting my free speach here in Denmark is that I can't say really racist things in public.
                                I am completely fine with that cause it works both ways.
                                We have organizations like Hizb-ut-Tahrir that is an extreme islamic organization and they have been hit with the racism law several times.

                                Being able to say all black people should be killed isn't a sign of freedom its ignorence.

                                What is freedom?
                                Good point.

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                                • MetroPornTour
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2005
                                  • 1043

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by Chief
                                  I can not help if you are ignorant to the laws in Britian, France, Norway, etc moron.



                                  Actually if you understand sociology you'd realise that nationalism on some level is certainly a healthy thing. I actually wrote a 3,000 word essay on the topic in my first year at university. About Nationalism, Ethnicity, and Globalisation. If you're interested to read it let me know and I'll dig it up.

                                  I would love to read it. Send it to me.
                                  Not having read your paper, we can debate and discuss it afterwards. However, for the moment...

                                  I majored in psychology and anthropology.

                                  Let me go on as saying that "Nationalism" is healthy if it is limted to a sense of identification to the self and cultural belonging. IE: This is where I was born, this is what makes me - me and there are others just like me here.

                                  But nationalism is wrong when it attains the point that a person begins to believe in the superiority of thier nation over that of others. It is also even more wrong when a citzen pledges thier lives and ceases to question the actions of thier goverment.

                                  A goverment only exists by the will of the people. A goverment is only kept in check and honest if the will of the people demand accountablity. When people begin accept, with very little questioning, the actions or start to believe in the infalabilty of their flag.

                                  Then that goverment will commit all kinds of horrors and give little regard to explaining it's actions and even less care about what it does.
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                                  • lchaim
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                                    • Jun 2005
                                    • 626

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Chief
                                    ...I actually wrote a 3,000 word essay on the topic in my first year at university. About Nationalism, Ethnicity, and Globalisation. If you're interested to read it let me know and I'll dig it up.

                                    Would love to read it.




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