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  • Odin
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    #1

    Reminder: The USA Is More Free Than Europe

    Just a friendly reminder after I ran over yet another example (albeit 1 year old) of the European communist elite taking over freedom. This would not of happened in the USA:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../ixportal.html

    Belgium's most popular political party was banned as racist by the country's high court yesterday, fuelling concerns that the judicial branch is being used to eliminate political enemies.

    .....

    The high court upheld an earlier ruling that party branches had violated race laws by distributing 16 leaflets in the late 1990s deemed to be incitement against immigrants. The party attacked the ruling as a breach of free speech since much of the material consisted of official statistics.

    One of the tracts, denouncing female circumcision in Islamic countries, was written by a Turkish-born woman member of the Vlaams Blok but the court ruled that the arguments were intended to foment anti-Muslim feeling.

    The US has its faults, but Europeans need to wake up and stop thinking they are perfect.
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  • Tat2Jr
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    #2
    Originally posted by Chief
    Reminder: The USA Is More Free Than Europe
    Not if Bush has anything to say about it! We're just getting started on getting our courts stacked ultra conservatives.... Give us 10 years.
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    • Odin
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      #3
      Originally posted by Tat2Jr
      Not if Bush has anything to say about it!
      Bush is a fuckwit, but the fact remains.
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      • Joe Citizen
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        #4
        Well in the Netherlands you can smoke dope legally, eat magic mushrooms legally, get a whore legally, marry your gay lover legally and if you're old and decrepit you can kill yourself legally.

        Sounds like I'm more free there than in the USA.

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        • MetroPornTour
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          #5
          Originally posted by Chief
          The US has its faults, but Europeans need to wake up and stop thinking they are perfect.
          Just try making and distributing a fisiting and a Piss-bukkake video in the United States.

          Consenting adults, doing things to consenting adults and being viewed by consenting adults. America just can't allow that because it is obscene.
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          • Odin
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            #6
            Originally posted by MetroPornTour
            Just try making and distributing a fisiting and a Piss-bukkake video in the United States.

            Consenting adults, doing things to consenting adults and being viewed by consenting adults. America just can't allow that because it is obscene.
            What about consenting adults who run the countries largest political party having their party outlawed after some 7 changes to the 'anti-racism' law to try and achieve that.

            I don't think you people understand, banning the most popular political party in a nation is a little more serious than not being able to film a fisting movie don't you think? Possibly not to you, because that is where you make your bread and butter, but in reality it is huge.
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            • Odin
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              #7
              Originally posted by Joe Citizen
              Well in the Netherlands you can smoke dope legally, eat magic mushrooms legally, get a whore legally, marry your gay lover legally and if you're old and decrepit you can kill yourself legally.

              Sounds like I'm more free there than in the USA.
              Yes you are right, because eating magic mushrooms is quite obviously a pillar of any democratic society. Whereas the right to form a political party is quite insignificant.
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              • Michael O
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                #8
                That is one European country.
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                • Joe Citizen
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Chief
                  Yes you are right, because eating magic mushrooms is quite obviously a pillar of any democratic society. Whereas the right to form a political party is quite insignificant.
                  Are you a fucking dimwit? Belgium is not The Netherlands.

                  Where the hell did you learn geography?

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                  • Odin
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                    That is one European country.
                    Should of give you examples of similar laws in effect in many other countires? Laws that make it illegal to say crticise Islam for example? Hell the European Union has the exact same policies. This is just one perfect example of where the ruling semi-communists where forced to go one step further because they didn't approve of the people's choice.
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                    • Odin
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                      Are you a fucking dimwit? Belgium is not The Netherlands.

                      Where the hell did you learn geography?
                      I'd ask the same of you. Both Belgium and the Netherlands are in Europe, and I quite obviously was talking about Europe as a whole whilst giving a Belgium example. The European Union essentially has the same laws, as does Holland.
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                      • Michael O
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                        #12
                        The only thing limiting my free speach here in Denmark is that I can't say really racist things in public.
                        I am completely fine with that cause it works both ways.
                        We have organizations like Hizb-ut-Tahrir that is an extreme islamic organization and they have been hit with the racism law several times.

                        Being able to say all black people should be killed isn't a sign of freedom its ignorence.

                        What is freedom?
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                        • Michael O
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Chief
                          I'd ask the same of you. Both Belgium and the Netherlands are in Europe, and I quite obviously was talking about Europe as a whole whilst giving a Belgium example. The European Union essentially has the same laws, as does Holland.
                          I think you need to read up on the EU
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                          • Joe Citizen
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Chief
                            I'd ask the same of you. Both Belgium and the Netherlands are in Europe, and I quite obviously was talking about Europe as a whole whilst giving a Belgium example. The European Union essentially has the same laws, as does Holland.
                            Clearly you have idea what the fuck you are talking about. Have you ever been to Europe?

                            I just noticed your location says Down Under. How embarassing. Another idiot Australian.
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                            • MetroPornTour
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Chief
                              What about consenting adults who run the countries largest political party having their party outlawed after some 7 changes to the 'anti-racism' law to try and achieve that.

                              I don't think you people understand, banning the most popular political party in a nation is a little more serious than not being able to film a fisting movie don't you think? Possibly not to you, because that is where you make your bread and butter, but in reality it is huge.
                              Maybe,
                              But the United States has many of it's own examples where they attempt to outlaw freedom of expression or speach. The patriot act?

                              End result and I'm certain many people are arriving at the same conclusion I am.

                              Goverments are liars. They are sacks of shit that will do anything and everything to achieve their own agendas.

                              They will say you are free, grant you rights of speach and then find ways to remove them without you knowning it.

                              Fuck, they will even murder their own people. (I suspect in 200 years after all the documents on Sept. 11th are declassified the world will find out that the United States goverment was NOT as squeeky clean in this event as it claimed.)

                              No one is free. At best we are all serfs. Just try getting rid of your citizenship and see how damn hard it is.

                              Americans are fond of saying "America love it or leave it." If your only citizenship is American, try leaving and see how damn hard it is. Every country in the world has nice-nice agreements to deport your ass back to the United States.

                              (Unless of course your rich, a celebrity, nuclear scientist, etc. But Joe-blow the weilder is stuck in America)

                              And you know what? It is the same for every single nation on the planet. Citzenship is just another term for "Property of xxxx Nation."
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                              • Odin88
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                                The only thing limiting my free speach here in Denmark is that I can't say really racist things in public.
                                I am completely fine with that cause it works both ways.
                                We have organizations like Hizb-ut-Tahrir that is an extreme islamic organization and they have been hit with the racism law several times.

                                Being able to say all black people should be killed isn't a sign of freedom its ignorence.

                                What is freedom?
                                Yes the Vlaams Blok party said all black people should be killed, lol.

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                                • justsexxx
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                                  #17
                                  One country WITHIN europe, does not mean ALL european countries has such parties in their government. Jeez/// Go back to school, read some books and try to learn something

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                                  • Odin
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by justsexxx
                                    One country WITHIN europe, does not mean ALL european countries has such parties in their government. Jeez/// Go back to school, read some books and try to learn something

                                    Andre
                                    What don't you people realise, almost every European country has the same laws. And the EU anti racism watchdog, etc support this political oppression under the guise of stopping racists, when in actual fact it prevents anyone just about from even questioning multiculturalism.
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                                    • justsexxx
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Chief
                                      What don't you people realise, almost every European country has the same laws. And the EU anti racism watchdog, etc support this political oppression under the guise of stopping racists, when in actual fact it prevents anyone just about from even questioning multiculturalism.
                                      Whatever
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                                      • Michael O
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Chief
                                        What don't you people realise, almost every European country has the same laws. And the EU anti racism watchdog, etc support this political oppression under the guise of stopping racists, when in actual fact it prevents anyone just about from even questioning multiculturalism.
                                        Again read up on the EU.
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                                        • Odin
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by justsexxx
                                          Whatever
                                          Here is another example from Belgium (I give you these as I read an interesting article about Belgium earlier today). An intellectual individual called Kris Roman who runs a nationalist publication was recently prosecuted and convicted for saying that many Jewish people played a key role in the Ukrainian famine and the Gulag's under Stalin (such as Lazar Kaganovich). The judge said to him upon conviction that he was going to jail essentially for being 'insensitive to Belgiums multicultural nature'.

                                          Realise that when you can not even criticise a BELIEF SYSTEM (such as Islam) it is obviously not a free nation. It is like not being able to criticise another political party, and if you look at many of Europe's laws on this issue you will find that offending these people by making anti-Islamic statements is indeed illegal.

                                          Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                                          Again read up on the EU.
                                          http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/pri/en/...en02690273.pdf
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                                          • Niqqer
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Chief
                                            Belgium's most popular political party was banned as racist by the country's high court yesterday, fuelling concerns that the judicial branch is being used to eliminate political enemies.
                                            This is such nonsense.

                                            In Britain, for example, the "KILL RACISM DEAD, we want peace, love and acceptance" line of thought is as worn out as the age old tabloid "ship those rag heads back, pull a trigger kill a niggger, vote BNP" mentality. People began to realize this a few years ago. Recently, this has been beaten down by a few well timed BBC "send money to Africa, build more mosques and suck a muslim dick for Britain" themed TV shows. However, I feel it won't be long until people start to think for themselves again. Suppressing these people is like poking a lit firework with a stick... shit is going to blow up in your face.

                                            The primary reason that extreme pro-nationalist political parties exist in European countries is because citizens are disillusioned with the complete bullshit put out by their present and recent governments - democratic, republican, AND liberal are all guilty - and by the nonsensical European laws and rulings affecting all member states. Although a large majority of European nations would like to take care of themselves, even if there is no admission of this, their hands are tied by bureaucrats - and Belgium is the worst of them all. In a place where human rights and toleration are so highly regarded, it is amusing how non-conformant are dealt with. When a political party fights against discrimination and extremists, they so often become exactly what they are fighting against.
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                                            • Jakke PNG
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Chief
                                              What don't you people realise, almost every European country has the same laws.
                                              Lol, no we don't.
                                              ..and I'm off.

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                                              • Tex Willer
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by MetroPornTour
                                                Maybe,
                                                But the United States has many of it's own examples where they attempt to outlaw freedom of expression or speach. The patriot act?

                                                End result and I'm certain many people are arriving at the same conclusion I am.

                                                Goverments are liars. They are sacks of shit that will do anything and everything to achieve their own agendas.

                                                They will say you are free, grant you rights of speach and then find ways to remove them without you knowning it.

                                                Fuck, they will even murder their own people. (I suspect in 200 years after all the documents on Sept. 11th are declassified the world will find out that the United States goverment was NOT as squeeky clean in this event as it claimed.)

                                                No one is free. At best we are all serfs. Just try getting rid of your citizenship and see how damn hard it is.

                                                Americans are fond of saying "America love it or leave it." If your only citizenship is American, try leaving and see how damn hard it is. Every country in the world has nice-nice agreements to deport your ass back to the United States.

                                                (Unless of course your rich, a celebrity, nuclear scientist, etc. But Joe-blow the weilder is stuck in America)

                                                And you know what? It is the same for every single nation on the planet. Citzenship is just another term for "Property of xxxx Nation."
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                                                • Odin
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by hahahahahaha
                                                  In a place where human rights and toleration are so highly regarded, it is amusing how non-conformant are dealt with. When a political party fights against discrimination and extremists, they so often become exactly what they are fighting against.
                                                  Well said. It is comparable to instances where people (lets use Mugabe as an example) rise to power and whilst starting out with good intentions end up increasingly holding on to power through shady means. These neo-communists that are in power (the same ones who publically sing along to the communist anthem the International), will do whatever necessary to stop people having a say if necessary. Don't forget who slapped sanctions on Austria when Jorge Haider came to power under an anti-immigration populist agenda in 1999.
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                                                  • justsexxx
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Chief
                                                    Here is another example from Belgium (I give you these as I read an interesting article about Belgium earlier today).
                                                    http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/pri/en/...en02690273.pdf

                                                    You are aware that the EU is not just Belgium right?
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                                                    • Odin
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by justsexxx
                                                      You are aware that the EU is not just Belgium right?
                                                      Are you a retard? Tell me who placed sanctions on Austria when Jorge Haider was elected by the people to represent them?
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                                                      • ServerGenius
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Chief
                                                        Are you a retard? Tell me who placed sanctions on Austria when Jorge Haider was elected by the people to represent them?
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by DynaSpain
                                                          Please enjoy your freedom......we don't want to be rescued.....fuck off

                                                          hahaha
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                                                          • MetroPornTour
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Tex Willer
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                                                            Notice Chief won't touch my last comment. And this is where the problem in society is. The moment something makes sense.

                                                            They drop the issue.
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                                                            • Troels
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Chief
                                                              The European Union essentially has the same laws, as does Holland.
                                                              No you're wrong so fucking wrong there.
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                                                              • ServerGenius
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Troels
                                                                No you're wrong so fucking wrong there.
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                                                                • Nicky
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Get a clue Chief

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                                                                  • broke
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by justsexxx
                                                                    You are aware that the EU is not just Belgium right?
                                                                    Don't make us come liberate you (and redraw your maps)...


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                                                                      #35
                                                                      lay off the crack-pipe

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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by broke
                                                                        Don't make us come liberate you (and redraw your maps)...


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                                                                        • Odin
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Nicky
                                                                          Get a clue Chief
                                                                          Yes because quite obviously I am the one who needs a clue. I mean, clearly making a bestiality video is a much more important right than being able to express a point of view democratically. What cracks me up is you idiots fail to realise how insane it is for the most popular political party to be banned out of fear. Lets imagine it the other way, how would you react if a liberal party in the USA received the most votes in an election, and than was banned by the Republican for supporting terrorism because they publicly rejected 'anti-terrorism' laws. You horse fuckers would be having a fit on here.

                                                                          And MetroPornTour I do mostly agree with you, and that is essentially what I am saying here. These people in power (in the Europe they happen to be neo-Communists), will do whatever necessary to hang on to power. However this is a great example of when their attempts to push their opinion through the media, the education system, etc fail they have no problem with resorting to such things as sanctions and the illegalisation of political parties.

                                                                          But who cares right, as long as I can fuck a pigeon and film it
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                                                                          • DirtyProfits
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Should I laugh now? At least the justice system works in my country and in the USA it does often not.

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                                                                            • Webmistres
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Chief
                                                                              Realise that when you can not even criticise a BELIEF SYSTEM (such as Islam) it is obviously not a free nation. It is like not being able to criticise another political party, and if you look at many of Europe's laws on this issue you will find that offending these people by making anti-Islamic statements is indeed illegal.
                                                                              First of all you can not compair religion to a political party. That is like compairing apples and oranges..

                                                                              As far as 'anti-terrorism' laws.. They are not perfect..but I would rather have those laws then another 9/11 or London or Madrid.

                                                                              The EU is not perfect, but at least we don't get a hard-on starting wars..
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                                                                              • Odin
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by DirtyProfits
                                                                                Should I laugh now? At least the justice system works in my country and in the USA it does often not.
                                                                                umm, if you are laughing at yourself, than yes, now would be a good time.
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                                                                                • ControlThy
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Chief
                                                                                  The European Union essentially has the same laws, as does Holland.
                                                                                  Incorrect.
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                                                                                  • Paul Markham
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Chief
                                                                                    What don't you people realise, almost every European country has the same laws. And the EU anti racism watchdog, etc support this political oppression under the guise of stopping racists, when in actual fact it prevents anyone just about from even questioning multiculturalism.
                                                                                    You obviously have little to no idea of how the law works here and even less idea of how racism laws work.

                                                                                    Maybe you are from down under and can stand up for the way the Australians treat Aborigines, or maybe America where black people, who were dragged over as slaves by white people, could fight in a war, win a gold medal for America but could not drink a coffee with a white guy or ride on the same bus a few decades ago.

                                                                                    The race laws are there for a reason and if the only critisism is of people circumcising young girls then there is no racism. If that is used as a racial slur then there is. No need to bring racism into the argument about cutting off a young girls clitorous.

                                                                                    Freedom is a relative thing and not always in the hands of police or goverment. In Europe very few people want to tell others how to live and even if they do they are not taken very seriously. In the US there are many places where people think they have the right to tell others how to live their lives and they are taken seriously.

                                                                                    No I would say on balance Europe is a freer society than the US and in this industry there is absolutely no comparison in the freedoms we enjoys, both in law and culturally.



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                                                                                    • DutchTeenCash
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      funny to see how clueless some ppl are especially those who never been in Europe never took effort in learning or even looking at the political systems here and still post crap

                                                                                      like I said funny

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                                                                                      • jayeff
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Chief
                                                                                        Just a friendly reminder...
                                                                                        You are making a fool of yourself attempting to build a case against the whole of Europe based on something that has happened in one of its smallest countries. You are making a fool of yourself by applying the term "neo-communist" to a collection of countries which have very different political climates spanning a wide range of the political spectrum.

                                                                                        You are making a fool of yourself to compare freedoms between Europe and the US, because even if your argument were valid, the citizens of the US have nothing whatever about which to be complacent.

                                                                                        The reality is that politicians, no matter which side of the Atlantic they are on and regardless of their nominal political persuasions, are always seeking to extend their power beyond the interests and wishes of the majority of their electorates. And it makes little practical difference whether they do so to promote political principles or venal self-interest. If that reality bothers you, then instead of crowing about who is further down the road, try to stir people out of the complacency which allows representatives to become rulers.

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                                                                                        • Anthony
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by justsexxx
                                                                                          You are aware that the EU is not just Belgium right?
                                                                                          Just like New Orleans isn't the rest of the United States, but your ilk loves to paint a broad brush.

                                                                                          How does it feel to be generalized?

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                                                                                          • Gunni
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Chief
                                                                                            Just a friendly reminder after I ran over yet another example (albeit 1 year old) of the European communist elite taking over freedom. This would not of happened in the USA:

                                                                                            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../ixportal.html

                                                                                            Belgium's most popular political party was banned as racist by the country's high court yesterday, fuelling concerns that the judicial branch is being used to eliminate political enemies.

                                                                                            .....

                                                                                            The high court upheld an earlier ruling that party branches had violated race laws by distributing 16 leaflets in the late 1990s deemed to be incitement against immigrants. The party attacked the ruling as a breach of free speech since much of the material consisted of official statistics.

                                                                                            One of the tracts, denouncing female circumcision in Islamic countries, was written by a Turkish-born woman member of the Vlaams Blok but the court ruled that the arguments were intended to foment anti-Muslim feeling.

                                                                                            The US has its faults, but Europeans need to wake up and stop thinking they are perfect.
                                                                                            yes, the president of Europe really sucks ass man

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                                                                                            • steffie
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • May 2002
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Every country has its problems. USA is not perfect neither are countries anywhere else in the world. You have to make the best out of the situation
                                                                                              Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm

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                                                                                              • drama
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                                                • 847

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                bush is fixing this as we speak

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                                                                                                • Paul Markham
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                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                  • 52942

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Freedom is a personal thing. If you are free to worship and live as you like you don't worry about others who are not.

                                                                                                  So on this board which one of you seriously thinks you're as free as the EU?

                                                                                                  After reading this

                                                                                                  Seems freedom to earn a living is getting harder for some industries in the US and after watching the US guys at the Amsterdam show I think they would agree with me.



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                                                                                                  • DutchTeenCash
                                                                                                    I like Dutch Girls
                                                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                                                    • 21684

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                                    Just like New Orleans isn't the rest of the United States, but your ilk loves to paint a broad brush.

                                                                                                    How does it feel to be generalized?
                                                                                                    Since I live 5 miles from Belgium am Dutch but go there like 5 times a week Ill post.

                                                                                                    Belgium really IS different. Its divided in 2 regios, french and dutch speaking. In general they hate eachother. The dutch speaking dont trust the dutch ppl who go there and the french speaking hate the dutch speaking and think theyre just french not belgium cizitens.

                                                                                                    Even though they learn dutch they refuse to speak it in the french part. And that basically shows how they feel bout everything. Politics, way of life, schoolsystems etc etc everything is different. And yet its the same country.

                                                                                                    Everything takes twice the time to arrange there, cause the whole dutch-french issue has to be concurred every damn time again. Heaven knows why they decided to put all the EU stuff there.

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