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  • Greg B
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jul 2001
    • 7014
    #1

    Can The Internet Be Shut Down?

    I know this thing was built for surviving major disasters and attacks, but could the internet be shut down totally?

    Let's say the powers that be didn't want us to say something, could they shut it down? Would there be any geniuses who could bypass and still send and receive information?
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        • riddler
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          • Oct 2004
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          #3
          yes, take down all the major backbone providers and bam..

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            • VeriSexy
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              #4
              Originally posted by Greg B
              I know this thing was built for surviving major disasters and attacks, but could the internet be shut down totally?

              Let's say the powers that be didn't want us to say something, could they shut it down? Would there be any geniuses who could bypass and still send and receive information?

              Not possible, the internet is owned by many seperate networks.
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                • iBanker
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                  #5
                  Originally posted by VeriSexy
                  Not possible, the internet is owned by many seperate networks.
                  Nothing is impossible..... I agree it is totally unPROBABLE....but anything is possible
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                    • Greg B
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 7014
                      #6
                      Originally posted by riddler
                      yes, take down all the major backbone providers and bam..

                      Wo, I thought there were far too many diverse providers to take out all at once. Some are so protected that not even a nuke could take them out.

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                        • Red Ezra
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                          • May 2004
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                          #7
                          some egg farts might do the job

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                            • 4Pics
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                              • Dec 2001
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                              #8
                              to kill it you just need to take down most of the root servers.

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                                • MetroPornTour
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                                  #9
                                  The goverment has resources we only dream of. If they had a reson the net would be gone in 5 minutes
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                                    • mortenb
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                                      • Jul 2004
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                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by 4Pics
                                      to kill it you just need to take down most of the root servers.
                                      Yep.. It could probably be done by killing the 13 root DNS servers..


                                      But why would anyone shut down the internet?

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                                            • Greg B
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                                              • Jul 2001
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                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by MetroPornTour
                                              The goverment has resources we only dream of. If they had a reson the net would be gone in 5 minutes
                                              Oh? Sounds reasonable BUT aren't there enough servers around the globe to counter this? Besides, if the government shut down the net wouldn't it fuck up more money than mankind could possibly imagine?

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                                                • KRL
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                                                  • Oct 2002
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                                                    • smack
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                                                      i don't think that is plausible. unless there is a large scale nuclear attack. the thing is too vast and diverse to go down completely.
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                                                        • KRL
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                                                          • Oct 2002
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by smack
                                                          i don't think that is plausible. unless there is a large scale nuclear attack. the thing is too vast and diverse to go down completely.
                                                          If you fuck with the Master Root Zone File you could essentially turn off any TLD .
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                                                            • MetroPornTour
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Greg B
                                                              Oh? Sounds reasonable BUT aren't there enough servers around the globe to counter this? Besides, if the government shut down the net wouldn't it fuck up more money than mankind could possibly imagine?
                                                              Any and all goverments in the world operate on a morality and agenda we can only speculate about it.

                                                              They don't need money.
                                                              All that they require is that we stay under their control.

                                                              So, if any goverment, especially the United States, had a reason. They would flip the switch in a heart beat.

                                                              (Then they would cook up some bullshit story about why they did it and everyone would believe it and be thankful.)
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                                                                • 3M TA3
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  it is totally possible, however...if they killed all dns records...well....aren't there enough dns servers that would keep it alive fot ISPs? I think the way you would do it is hit the IP routing tables.

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                                                                    • AcidDog
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                                                                        • aico
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                                                                          • Mar 2004
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Skynet became self-aware at 02:37 PST September 17, 2005.

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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Probably not since there's so many backbones all over the world now. And even if they are taken out aren't there small tributaries that can reroute the data?

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                                                                                • ServerGenius
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                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                  • 9377
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  There's far more than 13 root servers that control the DNS system. Then again
                                                                                  if you would be able to kill all of them it will only mean that DNS servers won't
                                                                                  get updated......but it will still keep on running....and even in the case they
                                                                                  won't then still will all the networks be up and running.......everything will
                                                                                  still be accesible by IP addresses.....The destruction of our planet is the
                                                                                  only thing that will kill the entire internet......good luck
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                                                                                    • SomeCreep
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                                                                                      • Mar 2003
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      If the world was completely destroyed by aliens, then yes, the internet would be shut down.

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                                                                                        • 3M TA3
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                                          Probably not since there's so many backbones all over the world now. And even if they are taken out aren't there small tributaries that can reroute the data?
                                                                                          seems logical. i have changed the reverse IP records before changing the NS records and some dns servers took the ip record as authoritive. It pissed my off because I wasn't ready to make the change yet and I had to scramble to finish making the web sites live. So if IP routing tables and DNS records were erased, wouldn't that open everyone up to hijacking domains and sites? you can bet i'd be putting www.ebay.com and www.google.com on my server just to divert traffic.

                                                                                          it is a robust and redundant system. however, i wouldn't be suprised if there was a way to shut it down on a mass scale.

                                                                                          i remember that when allot of the US lost internet because of the power outages. even though i wasn't effected websites were either slow or non-exsistant.

                                                                                          a constantly rolling IP change would fuck things up for good.

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                                                                                                • 3M TA3
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  pretty sure there are only 13 authoritive dns servers which the rest of the world leaches from

                                                                                                  http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/traver...gfy.com&type=A

                                                                                                  i'm sure there are plently of backups and redundancy though.

                                                                                                  and when i say servers, I mean actual server clusters running as one, not actual boxes

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                                                                                                    • keyboard warrior
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                                                                                                      #26
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                                                                                                        • Drake
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                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          It's probably possible, but is unlikely because 1) it would be difficult considering the internet is served from all over the world 2) big business utilizes the internet - governments benefit from big businesses such as Google, Microsoft, all down the line to the video games people play. So from a logistic, financial, and political point of view, there is really no reason why any single entity with the power to try and shut it down would.

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                                                                                                            • BRISK
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                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              DNS root servers are not "The Internet" and killing the current 13 root DNS servers would not turn off the Internet, it probably wouldn't even kill off the domain system since if the currently accepted system was killed, people would just migrate to one of the other alternative DNS root systems that already exist.
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                                                                                                                • Herb Kornfield
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                                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Anything that can be turned on can be shut down.

                                                                                                                  The powers that be wouldnt shut it down since they love to keep an eye on you.

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                                                                                                                    • Tat2Jr
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                                                                                                                      • Feb 2001
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by aico
                                                                                                                      Skynet became self-aware at 02:37 PST September 17, 2005.

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                                                                                                                        • pussyluver
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                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                          • 11009
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                          If you fuck with the Master Root Zone File you could essentially turn off any TLD .
                                                                                                                          If you killed or hacked all the root servers the WEB would fail. Surprised some hacker has not accomplished that already. They have come close.

                                                                                                                          I think subordinate name servers would keep it going for awhile. That would be the usefulness of the web! Not the Internet. The Internet would still be in place via IP addresses so far in the thread discussion.

                                                                                                                          An attack on the routers would be more damaging. There are way more routers than root name servers. I suspect the US government for the most part holds the keys totally. I'd bet that there is a plan in place to shut it down if needed or if a need was perceived. Like to stop the terrorists attacking the country.

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                                                                                                                            • pussyluver
                                                                                                                              Clueless OleMan
                                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                              • 11009
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Maybe services like AOL could stayup using dialup????? There was a time when they would of. NOT sure anymoe???

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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by AcidDog
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                                                                                                                                    • volante
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                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2002
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      You can turn it off here:

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                                                                                                                                        • Linkster
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                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                                                          Tue Jan 19 03:14:07 2038 the Unix side of things will revert to Fri Dec 13 20:45:52 1901 which I predict (although I know I wont be here to see it) will be touted by the media as the Friday the 13th CRISIS!!!! OMG - the whole of the Internet as we know it will die!!!!
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                                                                                                                                              You can call Al Gore, I am sure he knows where the switch is.


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                                                                                                                                                • slackologist
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                                                                                                                                                  EMP could take out the majority of end users in an area but most backbones/military/redundant systems would survive at least a single blast.

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                                                                                                                                                  Although the electric field created from an EMP lasts for only a short time, its effects can be devastating. It is predicted that a single high altitude burst 200 miles above Kansas could propagate an EMP enveloping the entire United States. Electrical systems connected to things that can conduct current like wires, antennas, and metal objects will suffer significant damage. EMP effects on electronics include interference of radio frequency links, irreparable damage to microcircuits, and even the disabling of satellites. Fortunately, electronic equipment that is turned off is less likely to be damaged.

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                                                                                                                                                    • FrankWhite
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      impossible to take down the whole net.

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                                                                                                                                                          #39
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                                                                                                                                                            • Sam Granger
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
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                                                                                                                                                                • CherryLipsRosa
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                                                                                                                                                                  I don't think it can go down entirely there are too many other alternatives to keep it going.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • jimmyf
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 12651
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                                                                      The US Government controls the Master Root Zone File which authorizes all the TLD's worldwide. That's essentially the key to the store.
                                                                                                                                                                      yep, and they they are going 2 keep them to
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                                                                                                                                                                        • jimmyf
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 12651
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                                                                          If you fuck with the Master Root Zone File you could essentially turn off any TLD .
                                                                                                                                                                          this is correct... and you could really screw it up, by just taking out 2 or 3 of them. maybe just one
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                                                                                                                                                                            • slackologist
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Killing TLD's would not kill the internet.. just stop domain name resolution.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • jimmyf
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 12651
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DynaSpain
                                                                                                                                                                                  There's far more than 13 root servers that control the DNS system. Then again
                                                                                                                                                                                  if you would be able to kill all of them it will only mean that DNS servers won't
                                                                                                                                                                                  get updated......but it will still keep on running....and even in the case they
                                                                                                                                                                                  won't then still will all the networks be up and running.......everything will
                                                                                                                                                                                  still be accesible by IP addresses.....The destruction of our planet is the
                                                                                                                                                                                  only thing that will kill the entire internet......good luck
                                                                                                                                                                                  13 root servers

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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                                                                                      If you fuck with the Master Root Zone File you could essentially turn off any TLD .
                                                                                                                                                                                      So in 10 yrs when the govt finally has forced everyone to .xxx they can just shut it all down. Another reason not to have .xxx.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • jimmyf
                                                                                                                                                                                          OU812
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 12651
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by BusterPorn
                                                                                                                                                                                          So in 10 yrs when the govt finally has forced everyone to .xxx they can just shut it all down. Another reason not to have .xxx.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Quagmire
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  There are 666 root DNS servers and Satan himself controls them from hell. The only way the internet can be taken down is if Dubya himself gives up the butt to Satan.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • tranza
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      man..what a stupid idea..
                                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm just a newbie.

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